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Íèêàê íå âðóáëþñü, êàê èãðàòü Àõ òû äóøå÷êà ïîïðîáóéòå, ñêàæûòå, îíî èãðàåìî?  ÷àñòíîñòè ïðàâèëüíî ëè ðàññòàâëåíû àêêîðäû ïî ñëîãàì? Am_____Dm__E7__Am _Àõ_òû,_äó--øå÷-êà, Gu___D/F_Eu__Dm _êðàñíà_äå---âè----öà, F_____C___G9__C__C7 _Ìû_ïîéäåì_ñ_òîáî-îé, F____Dm/H__E7__Am _ðàçãóëÿ----åì--ñÿ. Åñëè íå òðóäíî, òî ðàññòàâüòå ïðàâèëüíî. Àòî â÷åðà âåñü âå÷åð ñèäåë, è òàê è ñÿê, íèôèãà íå ïîëó÷àåööà. Èäåàëüíî áûëî-áû åñëè áû êòî çàïèñàëñÿ íà âèäåî è ìíå ïîêàçàë. Íî íà òàêîå ñ÷àñòüå ÿ óæ íå íàäåþñü. Ñïàñèáî. |
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>Gu![]() êöòàòå, òóò íàâðÿòëå êòîòà ñ ýòèì òåáå ïîìîæèò, èáî ìàëî òîãî, ÷òî íå äýòõ òàê åù¸ è íèìèòàë. è äàæå íå äæàç |
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>Ùà íà÷í¸òñÿ... MarkM, äàà.. êðåïèñü ![]() Õîòÿ ïåñíè òàêîé íå ñëûøàëà, ìîæåò òàì äåéñòâèòåëüíî ðàñïàëüöîâêà êàêàÿ-íèáóäü óíèêàëüíàÿ. |
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>ðàñïàëüöîâêà êàêàÿ-íèáóäü óíèêàëüíàÿ. áëàòíàÿ ![]() |
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çàáàíåí ê ÷åðòÿì ïî âñåìó ôîðóìó ![]() |
à âîîáùå âîò ýòî êðó÷å ![]() Am___H7___E7_____________A7____Dm Hàñòîÿùåìó èíäåéöó íàäî òîëüêî îäíîãî, Dm________Am_______H7___________E7 Äà è ýòîãî íåìíîãî, äà ïî÷òè ÷òî íè÷åãî. _____A7___Dm__________H7______________E7 Åñëè òû, ÷óâàê, èíäååö, òû íàéäåøü ñåáå îòòÿã. Am____________Dm_________H7__________E7 H àñòîÿùåìó èíäåéöó çàâñåãäà âåçäå íèøòÿê. ____A7___Dm________G____________C____E Ýõ òpàâà-îòpàâóøêà, òpàâóøêà-ìópàâóøêà, Am__________Dm______G________ ____C___E Ýõ ãpèáî÷êè-ÿãîäêè, äà öâåòî÷êè-ëþòèêè, Am_________Dm_______G__________C __E Ýõ áåpåçêè-åëî÷êè, øèøå÷êè-èãîëî÷êè, Am___________Dm_______E7_______ _Am Ýõ äà ïòè÷êè-óòî÷êè, ïpèáàóòêè-øóòî÷êè. |
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Äàéòå ïëåíî÷êó ïîæàëñòà ![]() |
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Ó Ìàëüìñòèíà ñåêðåò àðïåäæèî â ðû÷àãå. Îí èì ñêîðîñòè ïåðåêëþ÷àåò.
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äåðåâíÿ Äåðåâÿíí áðÿêè, êðèêè ![]() ![]() ![]() |
À ÷å, êëàññèêè òóò íå òóñóþööà? Ðîêåðàì òîæå íå äîëæíî â ïàäëó áûòú. Âñå òàêè øêîëà. ÿ ìîæà åå â ïàíêå ñïîéó. éà óæå ñïåë Êðûëàòûå Êà÷åëè (ìîæûòå ïîñëóøàòú â âîêàëèñêîé êîíôå) |
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Ýòî íå êëàññèêà, à ôîëê-ïîïñà. Äàéòå çàïèñü ïîñëóõàòü, à òî ÿ íå íàø¸ë. | |
Ó Ìàëüìñòèíà ñåêðåò àðïåäæèî â ðû÷àãå. Îí èì ñêîðîñòè ïåðåêëþ÷àåò.
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äåðåâíÿ Äåðåâÿíí áðÿêè, êðèêè ![]() ![]() ![]() |
ðàñïàëúöîôêà òàì íåïðîñòàéà îäèí Åó àêêîðä ÷åãî ñòîèò. Äûê ÷å, ñëàáî? |
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çàáàíåí ê ÷åðòÿì ïî âñåìó ôîðóìó ![]() |
>ÿ ìîæà åå â ïàíêå ñïîéó.![]() |
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äåðåâíÿ Äåðåâÿíí áðÿêè, êðèêè ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Ðåâîëò, Âîò òóò êàêîé-òî "ìåòàëëèñò" èñïîëíÿåò, íî îí ïî Èâàíîâó-Êðàìñêîìó. À ÿ ïî àêêîðäàì õî÷ó, ò ê ïî íîòàì ìíó åùå òðóäíåå. |
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>ðàñïàëúöîôêà òàì íåïðîñòàéà ####åö... Íåïðîñòàÿ.. Èãðàòü ó÷èòåñü íàõ####òü.. ![]() |
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MarkM, òû çàïèñü òî ñëûøàë? | |
Ó Ìàëüìñòèíà ñåêðåò àðïåäæèî â ðû÷àãå. Îí èì ñêîðîñòè ïåðåêëþ÷àåò.
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Ìàñòåð æåñòîêèõ![]() ![]() |
Artemio M. òû óæ ïîñòàðàéñÿ, ìû òåáÿ òóò âñå î÷åíü ïðîñèì. ß íàø¸ë â ñåòêå ó îäíîãî, íî íå ìîãó ñêà÷àòü (íåò ñâîáîäíûõ ñëîòîâ) | |
Ó Ìàëüìñòèíà ñåêðåò àðïåäæèî â ðû÷àãå. Îí èì ñêîðîñòè ïåðåêëþ÷àåò.
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äåðåâíÿ Äåðåâÿíí áðÿêè, êðèêè ![]() ![]() ![]() |
 ÷åì ñòåá? Åñëè ó êîãî-òî íå ïîëó÷àåööà öûãðàòú è îí ïîïðîñèë ïîìî÷? äà íó âàñ íàõ. ñàì ðàçáåðóñú |
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äåðåâíÿ Äåðåâÿíí áðÿêè, êðèêè ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Äà, Àðòåìèî è Ðåâîëúòó è äðóãèì êòî ïîääåðæàë Ñïàñèáî. | |
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Ìàñòåð æåñòîêèõ![]() ![]() |
MarkM, ñòîÿòü. Êóäà ïîø¸ë? ùàñ ðàçáèðàòüñÿ áóäåì, íåìíîãî òåðïåíèÿ. | |
Ó Ìàëüìñòèíà ñåêðåò àðïåäæèî â ðû÷àãå. Îí èì ñêîðîñòè ïåðåêëþ÷àåò.
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äåðåâíÿ Äåðåâÿíí áðÿêè, êðèêè ![]() ![]() ![]() |
À, ÎÊ! Óðà! ![]() |
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äåðåâíÿ Äåðåâÿíí áðÿêè, êðèêè ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Ðåâîëò, âîò òóò êàêîéòî "ìåòàëëèñò"-Ðàñêîëúíèêîâ ðóáèò íî îí ïî Èâàíîâó-Êðàìñêîìó, ìíå òàê ñëàáî, äà è íå íàäî äëÿ àêêîìïàíåìåíòà. Ìíå ïðîñòî àêêîðäàìè. |
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×îðò. Âñ¸ ãëþ÷èò. ß ñïàòü. Îíà ñêà÷àëàñü, íî íå îòïðàâëÿåòñÿ. Î_î | |
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äåðåâíÿ Äåðåâÿíí áðÿêè, êðèêè ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Àðòåìèî, îòêóäà êà÷àë, äàé ëèíê! | |
“We act as though comfort and luxury were the chief
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MarkM, ñûãðàé íà óìöà-óìöà, â ÷¸ì ïðîáëåìà òî? íåíóæíûå àêêîðäû âûêèíü. Òàá íåò. | |
Ó Ìàëüìñòèíà ñåêðåò àðïåäæèî â ðû÷àãå. Îí èì ñêîðîñòè ïåðåêëþ÷àåò.
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äåðåâíÿ Äåðåâÿíí áðÿêè, êðèêè ![]() ![]() ![]() |
ß ïðîáûâàë âûêèäûâàòú D/F è Eu. 2-ÿ ñòðî÷êà íå ñðàñòàåööà. Êàêàÿ-òî ëàæà èäåò. Òû ïðîáîâàë åå ñûãðàòú ïî àêêîðäàì ñ ñàéòà, ÷òî ÿ äàë? Ïîëó÷èëîñú? |
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Ìàñòåð æåñòîêèõ![]() ![]() |
Ó ìåíÿ ãèòàðû íåò ïîä ðóêîé. Èãðàé àêêîðäàìè â ìåëîäèþ ïåñíè è ïîé, òàê ëåã÷å áóäåò. | |
Ó Ìàëüìñòèíà ñåêðåò àðïåäæèî â ðû÷àãå. Îí èì ñêîðîñòè ïåðåêëþ÷àåò.
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äåðåâíÿ Äåðåâÿíí áðÿêè, êðèêè ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Ðåâîëúò, òû íå çíàåø, ÷å òàì Àðòåìèî êà÷àë? | |
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Ìàñòåð æåñòîêèõ![]() ![]() |
Íåò | |
Ó Ìàëüìñòèíà ñåêðåò àðïåäæèî â ðû÷àãå. Îí èì ñêîðîñòè ïåðåêëþ÷àåò.
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Ëàí. Óòðî âå÷åðà ìóäðåíåé, ÿ ñïàòü ïø¸ë ![]() |
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äåðåâíÿ Äåðåâÿíí áðÿêè, êðèêè ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Ñïàñèáî! | |
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À ÷å, êëàññèêè òóò íå òóñóþööà? Ðîêåðàì òîæå íå äîëæíî â ïàäëó áûòú. Âñå òàêè øêîëà. Ïðîñòî âîçüìè øêîëó Èâàíîâà -Êðàìñêîâà, è ïîþçàé åå âîò êîãäà âñþ ïðîéäåøü( à òàì åñòü "äóøå÷êà" â ïðåêðàñíîé îáðàáîòêå) òîãäà íå áóäåøü ñîçäàâàòü òàêèõ ñìåøíûõ òåì, à ëó÷øå âíèìàòåëüíåå ïîñëóøàé ñàìó ïåñòíþ(èáî ó òÿ ìíîãî íåïðàâèëüíûõ àêêîðäîâ)Ó÷èñü ÷óâàê ó÷èñü! |
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äåðåâíÿ Äåðåâÿíí áðÿêè, êðèêè ![]() ![]() ![]() |
>Ïðîñòî âîçüìè øêîëó Èâàíîâà -Êðàìñêîâà, è ïîþçàé åå âîò êîãäà âñþ ïðîéäåøü Íó òû Êàðëñîí è ñêàçàë. Ýòî êàê åñëè áû ó ìåíÿ ñïðîñèëè ïîìî÷ ñ êàêèì íèáóäú ñðåäíåé ïàðøûâîñòè çàïðîñîì íà Îðàêë, à ÿ áû âñòàë â âàæíóþ ïîçó è èçðåê - "Ïðîñòî âîçúìè ïî÷èòàé òåîðèþ áàç äàííûõ, ïðàâèëà íîðìàëèçàöûè Êîääà, Îðàêë Äåâåëîïåð Ãàéä âåñú âûó÷è, òàì åñòú çàïðîñ ïîäîáíûé òâîåìó, è íå çàäàâàé òàêèõ ñìåøíûõ âîïðîñîâ. Ó÷èñú, ÷óâàê, ó÷èñú." Âû ÷î òóò òàêèå çëûå? Ýòî íå ìîè àêêîðäû. ß èõ ñ ñàéòà âçÿë. Åñëè òû âèäèø/ñëûøûø ÷òî òàì ÷òî-òî íåïðàâèëúíî, òî ñêàæû êàê íàäî. ß æå èìåííî ýòî è ñïðàøèâàë. |
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“We act as though comfort and luxury were the chief
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>Âû ÷î òóò òàêèå çëûå? ÐîÃåðû âñå çëûå ![]() |
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äåðåâíÿ Äåðåâÿíí áðÿêè, êðèêè ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Kàðî÷å, ñêà÷àë ÿ îòêóäà-òî ìèäþõó ñ ïåðåëîæåíèåì Èâàíîâà-Êðàìñêîãî, çàãðóçèë â ÃèòàðÏðî, òàì êàê ðàç ïåðâàÿ ÷àñòú èäåò àêêîðäàìè. ![]() Âñå ïîäõîäèò èäåàëúíî. Âîò àêêîðäû B1____B1____Em________B7_________Em Àõ ____òû,___äó--------øå---------÷êà, Ddim__F1___ _Am________E7_________Am Êðà---ñíà___äå--------âè ---------öà, C/A___E1____D7________D9_________G ____G/B Ìû____ïîé---äåì_____ñ_òî---------áî---îé, C_____G1____B7________B7_________Em Ðàç---ãó- ---ëÿ--------åì---------ñÿ. *B1,G1 è òï åòî íå àêêîðä à ïðîñòî åäèíè÷íàéà íîòà âñåì ñïàñèáî! ![]() |
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“We act as though comfort and luxury were the chief
requirements of life, when all that we need to make us happy is something to be enthusiastic about.” Einstein |