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Àâòîð Òåìà: Èñêóâñòâåííûé ôëåæ,
Âðåìÿ: 10.01.2006 15:16 



Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Èñêóâñòâåííûé ôëåæîëåò
Âðåìÿ: 10.01.2006 15:17 



×åðò âîçüìè êàê åãî äåëàòü?!!!
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Èñêóâñòâåííûé ôëåæ,
Âðåìÿ: 10.01.2006 15:20 
xxx
Fender Strat

ðóêàìè!!! :)
There are not guitarists, there are musicians playing on a guitar!
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Èñêóâñòâåííûé ôëåæ,
Âðåìÿ: 10.01.2006 15:22 
xxx
Fender Strat

à âîáùå ýòî íóæíî ïîêàçûâàòü!!! òàê ýòî íå îáúÿñíèøü!!!
There are not guitarists, there are musicians playing on a guitar!
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Èñêóâñòâåííûé ôëåæ,
Âðåìÿ: 10.01.2006 15:25 
Ìîñêâà


+1
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Èñêóâñòâåííûé ôëåæ,
Âðåìÿ: 10.01.2006 15:26 



Äåëàòü åãî íóæíî ïåðâîé ôàëàíãîé ãèòàðíîãî, òðåòüåãî ïàëüöà íà ËÅÂÎÉ ðóêå !!! :)
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Èñêóâñòâåííûé ôëåæîëåò
Âðåìÿ: 10.01.2006 15:58 



Íó à ñåðüåçíî, õîòÿ áû ïðèìåðíî...
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Èñêóâñòâåííûé ôëåæ,
Âðåìÿ: 10.01.2006 16:39 



à ó ìåíÿ äðóãîé âîïðîñ:) ÷åì íî îòëè÷àåòñÿ îò íàòóðàëüíîãî?:) íàòóðàëüíûå óìåþ, à âîò èñêóññòâåííûå.. âîîáùå áåç ïîíÿòèÿ ÷òî òàêîå..
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Èñêóâñòâåííûé ôëåæ,
Âðåìÿ: 10.01.2006 17:15 
ÑÏá
òåíîð-ñàêñîôîí

÷åòàéòè ôàêå
aka Çåïï Áðàííèãàí
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Èñêóâñòâåííûé ôëåæ,
Âðåìÿ: 10.01.2006 17:17 



Ñòðóíó Ñè ïðèæèìàåøü íà ïåðâîì ëàäó, ïàëåöåì êàñàåøñÿ òðèíàäöàòîãî, âîò èñêóññòâåííûé ôëàæîëåò C3.
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Èñêóâñòâåííûé ôëåæ,
Âðåìÿ: 10.01.2006 17:49 
qwerty



Çàæèìàåøü êàêîé-ë. ëàä, îòñ÷èòûâàåøü îò ýòîãî ëàäà +12 ëàäîâ, êàñàåøüñÿ â ýòîì ìåñòå ñòðóíû óêàçàòåëüíûì ïàëüöåì ïðàâîé ðóêè, à ñðåäíèì èëè áåçûìÿííûì äåðãàåøü ñòðóíó.
PS: ìîæåò òûõîòåë ñïðîñèòü ïðî ìåäèàòîðíûå ôëàæîëåòû?
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Èñêóâñòâåííûé ôëåæ,
Âðåìÿ: 10.01.2006 17:49 



êðóòî:) êàæåòñÿ íà÷èíàþ ïîíèìàòü...
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Èñêóâñòâåííûé ôëåæ,
Âðåìÿ: 10.01.2006 17:50 
Ìîñêâà
2 ðóêè è 19 ñòðóí

Hydromant ýòî îêòàâíûé òýïîâûé ôëàæîëåò! :idea2:
"ãèòàðíûé òðåòèé ïàëåö" òîæå ïîçàáàâèë :)

Àâòîðó: âìåñòå ñ ìåäèàòîðîì ñòðóíû äîëæíà ñëåãêà êîñíóòüñÿ ïîäóøå÷êà áîëüøîãî ïàëüöà. Âìåñòå ñ òåì ìîæíî íåìíîãî ïîâèáðèðîâàòü íîòêó - âêóñíåå ïîëó÷èòñÿ.

Óäà÷è è òåðïåíèÿ. Îíî ïîòðåáóåòñÿ!
Once a musician - forever a musician
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Èñêóâñòâåííûé ôëåæ,
Âðåìÿ: 10.01.2006 18:22 
xxx
Fender Strat

" Àâòîðó: âìåñòå ñ ìåäèàòîðîì ñòðóíû äîëæíà ñëåãêà êîñíóòüñÿ ïîäóøå÷êà áîëüøîãî ïàëüöà. Âìåñòå ñ òåì ìîæíî íåìíîãî ïîâèáðèðîâàòü íîòêó - âêóñíåå ïîëó÷èòñÿ. " âñ¸ ïðàâèëüíî!!! òîê ýòî äîëæíî ïðîèñõîäèòü ïðàêòè÷åñêè îäíîâðåìåííî!!! ÷óòîê íàêëîíÿé áîëüøîé ïàëåö â ñòîðîíó ñòðóí ïîñëå òîãî êàê ìåäèàòîð çàäåíåò ñòðóíû!!! äëÿ ýòîãî äåëàé íåñèëüíî áîëüøîé âûñòóï êîí÷èêà ìåäèàòîðà èç ïîä ïàëüöåâ ( áóäåò íàìíîãî óäîáíåé )!!!
There are not guitarists, there are musicians playing on a guitar!
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Èñêóâñòâåííûé ôëåæ,
Âðåìÿ: 10.01.2006 18:45 
Ýñòîíèÿ, Òàëëèí
Ibanez RGD2127 | RG2620

Äà, ìåäèàòîðíûå ôëàæîëåòû ýòî î÷ êðàñèâî.
Íî ÷òîáû èõ ÷èñòî äåëàòü (à ãëàâíîå, äåëàòü èõ òîãäà, êîãäà íàäî, à íå êîãäà ïîëó÷èòñÿ), íóæíî ìíîãî ïðàêòèêè. Ìåäèàòîðíûì ôëàæîëåòàì òàê ïðîñòî íå íàó÷èøüñÿ. Èõ íóæíî ÷óâñòâîâàòü.
Ibanez RGD2127z (BKP MM set) | RG2620 QMSP (BKP Nailbomb bridge) >> Korg Pitchblack >> Chris Custom Dr. Silvery >> Yerasov Detonator >> Yerasov Bull-V 212(Eminence Swamp Thang | The Governor)
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Èñêóâñòâåííûé ôëåæ,
Âðåìÿ: 10.01.2006 18:46 
xxx
Fender Strat

+1
There are not guitarists, there are musicians playing on a guitar!
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Èñêóâñòâåííûé ôëåæ,
Âðåìÿ: 10.01.2006 18:49 
Ýñòîíèÿ, Òàëëèí
Ibanez RGD2127 | RG2620

Åù¸ íóæíî äîáàâèòü, ÷òî äëÿ êðàñèâîãî ìåäèàòîðíîãî ôëàæîëåòà íóæåí õîðîøèé ïåðåãðóç. Åñëè ìàëî ãåéíà, ìåäèàòîðíûé ôëàæîëåò áóäåò õðåíîâûì.
Ibanez RGD2127z (BKP MM set) | RG2620 QMSP (BKP Nailbomb bridge) >> Korg Pitchblack >> Chris Custom Dr. Silvery >> Yerasov Detonator >> Yerasov Bull-V 212(Eminence Swamp Thang | The Governor)
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Èñêóâñòâåííûé ôëåæ,
Âðåìÿ: 10.01.2006 18:55 



ó ìåíÿ òàêàÿ õåðü, ÷òî êàäà ÿ èãðàþ, îíè ó ìåíÿ ñàìîïðîèçâîëüíî ïðîñêàêèâàþò))
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Èñêóâñòâåííûé ôëåæ,
Âðåìÿ: 10.01.2006 18:59 
Ìîñêâà
Kramer Glide, Roland JP-8000

Íàä 5-ûì, 7-ûì, 12-ûì, 19-ûì, 24-ûì ïîðîæêàìè òîæå (+ çàæàòûé).
À åù¸ åñòü íàä 4-ûì, 9-ûì, 2.5 è òàê äàëåå. . .
 òî âðåìÿ êàê òåíü ÑÑÑÐ ñãóñòèëàñü íàä Åâðîïîé, 12 ñòðàí ïî îáå ñòîðîíû Àòëàíòèêè îáúåäèíèëèñü äëÿ çàùèòû ñâîåé áåçîïàñíîñòè è ãëàâíûõ öåííîñòåé: ñâîáîäû, äåìîêðàòèè, ïðàâ ÷åëîâåêà è ãëàâåíñòâà çàêîíà.
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Èñêóâñòâåííûé ôëåæ,
Âðåìÿ: 10.01.2006 19:00 
xxx
Fender Strat

Êðþãåð òóò ÿ òîæ äîëæåí ñîãëàñèòüñÿ ñ òîáîé!!! êñòàòå çàìåòèë òàêóþ èðóíäó ÷òî íà ìî¸ì DS-1 ôèãîâî îíè çâó÷àò à âîò íà âñòðîåííîì îâåðäðàéâå â êîìáàðå íà óðà!!!
There are not guitarists, there are musicians playing on a guitar!
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Èñêóâñòâåííûé ôëåæ,
Âðåìÿ: 10.01.2006 19:03 
Ýñòîíèÿ, Òàëëèí
Ibanez RGD2127 | RG2620

Stevie
Óãó, òàê âñ¸ ïðèìåðíî è äîëæíî áûòü =)
Ibanez RGD2127z (BKP MM set) | RG2620 QMSP (BKP Nailbomb bridge) >> Korg Pitchblack >> Chris Custom Dr. Silvery >> Yerasov Detonator >> Yerasov Bull-V 212(Eminence Swamp Thang | The Governor)
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Èñêóâñòâåííûé ôëåæ,
Âðåìÿ: 10.01.2006 19:40 



âñå íàïèñàëè ïðàâèëüíî. ñòàðàéñÿ, äåëàé ýòî äîëãî è óïîðíî... ìíå ïîðåáîâàëèñü ãîäû, ÷òîáû ýòî ïðî÷óâñòâîâàòü. íî ìíå íèêòî íè÷åãî íå ïîêàçûâàë......
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Èñêóâñòâåííûé ôëåæ,
Âðåìÿ: 10.01.2006 19:45 



âîìïèð, â ñëåäóþùèé ðàç æóé, âìåñòî òîãî, ÷òîáû ãîâîðèòü


òÿ íå ïðî íàòóðàëüíûå ñïðîñèëè, à ïðî èñêóñòâåííûå
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Èñêóâñòâåííûé ôëåæ,
Âðåìÿ: 10.01.2006 19:46 
Ãðàíä



Ïîìíþ, ÿ êîãäà åùå òîëüêî ãîä èãðàë íà ýëåêòðóõå, ñàì ñëó÷àéíî íàó÷èëñÿ äåëàòü èñêóñòâåííûå ôëàæåëåòû. Î÷åíü òîãäà óäèâèëñÿ! Åùå áîëüøå óäèâèëñÿ, êîãäà ïîçæå óçíàë, ÷òî äåëàë èõ ïðàâèëüíî))
Âîîáùåì, ìîæåòå ñ÷èòàòü ìåíÿ îòêðûâàòåëåì èñêóññòâåííûõ ôëàæåëåòîâ;)
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Èñêóâñòâåííûé ôëåæ,
Âðåìÿ: 10.01.2006 19:51 
Ìîñêâà
Kramer Glide, Roland JP-8000

Äåíèýëñ, ïeäðèëî, ÷èòàé âíèìàòåëüíî, ÷òî ÿ íàïèñàë.
 òî âðåìÿ êàê òåíü ÑÑÑÐ ñãóñòèëàñü íàä Åâðîïîé, 12 ñòðàí ïî îáå ñòîðîíû Àòëàíòèêè îáúåäèíèëèñü äëÿ çàùèòû ñâîåé áåçîïàñíîñòè è ãëàâíûõ öåííîñòåé: ñâîáîäû, äåìîêðàòèè, ïðàâ ÷åëîâåêà è ãëàâåíñòâà çàêîíà.
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Èñêóâñòâåííûé ôëåæ,
Âðåìÿ: 10.01.2006 20:26 



êðàñèâî çâó÷àò òýïïèíãîâûå ôëàæîëåòû... ìÿãêèé ïåðåõîä... âîîáùå, êó÷à ñïîñîáîâ èçâëåêàòü ôëàæîëåòû... ñàì ïîïðîáóé êàê íèòü... íàïðèìåð ìîæíî ïîñòóêèâàòü ïî ñòðóíàì ÏÐÀÂÎÉ ðóêîé â îáëàñòè íåêîâîãî äàò÷èêà (íó, íàäî ïîêàçûâàòü, íî ìîæíî è òàê äîéòè) âñÿêèå ðàçíûå âûñîêèå ôëàæîëåòû... :-)
à âîîáùå ëåã÷å âñåãî èñê. ôëàæ. çâó÷àò åñëè èõ áðàòü +12 îò òîãî ëàäà íà êîòîðîì çàæàë...
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Èñêóâñòâåííûé ôëåæ,
Âðåìÿ: 10.01.2006 20:42 



èñêóâñòâåííûé ôëåæ :super:
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Èñêóâñòâåííûé ôëåæ,
Âðåìÿ: 10.01.2006 20:45 



Ìëÿ, êîãäà ñìîòðåë "Live At Budokan", ìíå ïîêàçàëîñü, ÷òî Çàê ïåðåáàðùèâàåò ñ íèìè. :dance1:
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Èñêóâñòâåííûé ôëåæ,
Âðåìÿ: 10.01.2006 20:48 



"Hydromant ýòî îêòàâíûé òýïîâûé ôëàæîëåò!"
ß êàê ïðîñòåéøèé ïðèìåð ïðèâåë, ÷òîáû íå çàìîðà÷èâàòüñÿ. :)
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Èñêóâñòâåííûé ôëåæ,
Âðåìÿ: 10.01.2006 20:52 
Ìèíñê
♪♫♪♫

Êñòàòè, ìåæäó 2 è 3 ëàäàìè åñòü öåëûõ òðè íàòóðàëüíûõ ôëàæîëåòà.
"Âñå-òàêè òîæå íå ÿñíî êîãäà ëó÷øå... Êîãäà â ãîëîâå ïåñîê èëè, êîãäà âàêóóì..." (Ñ)D7
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Èñêóâñòâåííûé ôëåæ,
Âðåìÿ: 10.01.2006 20:53 
Òîðòóãà
Áóòûëêà Ðîìà

Êðþãåð, à êàê ñ ñàáæåì äåëî îáñòîèò íà âóäó âàëüâå?
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Èñêóâñòâåííûé ôëåæ,
Âðåìÿ: 11.01.2006 00:02 
Ýñòîíèÿ, Òàëëèí
Ibanez RGD2127 | RG2620

Âîîáùå îôèãèòåëüíûå ìåäèàòîðíûå ôëàæîëåòû íà âóäó ïîëó÷àþòñÿ. :) Ìåíÿ îíè ïððóò, ëþáëþ èìè ïîëüçîâàòüñÿ =)

Ñåé÷àñ âîò æäó êîãäà ïðèåäåò ìîé ÄèÌàðçèî Ýâîëþøí (áðèäæ). ×óâñòâóþ, êîãäà åãî ïîñòàâëþ, âîîáùå ñêàçêà áóäåò =)
Ibanez RGD2127z (BKP MM set) | RG2620 QMSP (BKP Nailbomb bridge) >> Korg Pitchblack >> Chris Custom Dr. Silvery >> Yerasov Detonator >> Yerasov Bull-V 212(Eminence Swamp Thang | The Governor)
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Èñêóâñòâåííûé ôëåæ,
Âðåìÿ: 11.01.2006 01:24 
Ýñòîíèÿ, Òàëëèí
Ibanez RGD2127 | RG2620

Âîò íàø¸ë êàêóþ òî ñòàðåíüêóþ çàïèñü. Òîãäà åù¸ ïèñàë â ëèíèþ âî âñòðîåííóþ çâóêîâóõó.
Âêëþ÷åí áûë êàêîé òî çàâîäñêîé ïðåñåò, äëÿ ñîëÿêîâ ïîõîäó.

Âîîáùåì ïðèìåðíîå çâó÷àíèå ôëàæîëåòîâ ìîæíî óñëûøàòü =)
Ibanez RGD2127z (BKP MM set) | RG2620 QMSP (BKP Nailbomb bridge) >> Korg Pitchblack >> Chris Custom Dr. Silvery >> Yerasov Detonator >> Yerasov Bull-V 212(Eminence Swamp Thang | The Governor)
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Èñêóâñòâåííûé ôëåæ,
Âðåìÿ: 11.01.2006 02:16 
Òîðòóãà
Áóòûëêà Ðîìà

Äàíêå. ß ñëûøàë ñýìïë ñ îôñàéòà ðîêòðîíà, ìíå ïîíðàâèëñÿ çâó÷îê ñîëÿêà,
õîòåëîñü óçíàòü âñå ëè òàê øîêîëàäíî íà ñàìîì äåëå )
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Èñêóâñòâåííûé ôëåæ,
Âðåìÿ: 11.01.2006 11:18 
Ýñòîíèÿ, Òàëëèí
Ibanez RGD2127 | RG2620

Íóæíî äîëãî ìóäîõàòüñÿ ñ íàñòðîéêàìè pre è post ýêâàëàéçåðîâ. Íî çàòî ìîæíî íàðóëèòü îîî÷åíü õîðîøèé çâóê.
À åñëè ïóñòèòü âóäó ÷åðåç õîðîøèé óñèëîê - âàùå îôèãåííî.
ß ïóñêàë ÷åðåç hand-made ëàìïîûâûé óñèëèòåëü (óñ¸ êàê íàäî, 4 ëàìïû) - çâóê áûë ïðîñòî ìîùùùü! =)
Ibanez RGD2127z (BKP MM set) | RG2620 QMSP (BKP Nailbomb bridge) >> Korg Pitchblack >> Chris Custom Dr. Silvery >> Yerasov Detonator >> Yerasov Bull-V 212(Eminence Swamp Thang | The Governor)
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Èñêóâñòâåííûé ôëåæ,
Âðåìÿ: 11.01.2006 12:16 
PRS McCarty '97
★ ★ ★

Åùå íå íà âñÿêèõ çâó÷êàõ ïîëó÷èòñÿ âêóñíûé ôëàæîê :)
:oooi:
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Èñêóâñòâåííûé ôëåæ,
Âðåìÿ: 11.01.2006 12:50 
Òîðòóãà
Áóòûëêà Ðîìà

Äûê âîò ïèñàëñÿ êîãäà íåäàâíî, ïîäðóáàëñÿ â ðåêòèôàåð: ôëàæêè íå øëè. Íà áàçå
äàëè ìíå ïîëàáàòü â îäèí ëàìïîâûé õýíäìýéä - âñå âèçæàëî òîêà â ïóòü.
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Èñêóâñòâåííûé ôëåæ,
Âðåìÿ: 11.01.2006 13:09 



[quote]Åù¸ íóæíî äîáàâèòü, ÷òî äëÿ êðàñèâîãî ìåäèàòîðíîãî ôëàæîëåòà íóæåí õîðîøèé ïåðåãðóç. Åñëè ìàëî ãåéíà, ìåäèàòîðíûé ôëàæîëåò áóäåò õðåíîâûì.[/quote]

Äàæå íà ìîåé ñòàðîé ñîâåòñêîé àêóñòèêå ìåäèàòîðíûé ôëàæîëåò ñëûøèòñÿ âïîëíå îò÷åòëèâî, ïåðåãðóç òóò íå âàæåí.

ß êîãäà-òî â ðàííåé ìîëîäîñòè äóìàë, ÷òî ýòî ñïåöèàëüíàÿ ïåäàëüêà äàåò òàêîé ýôôåêò, à ïîòîì ñëó÷àéíî ïîëó÷èë åãî ñàì.
:idea2:
Íà÷àë âûÿñíÿòü, êàê ýòî ïîëó÷èëîñü, îêàçàëîñü, ÷òî ÿ ïîñëå äåðãà ìåäèàòîðîì çàäåë ñëåãêà ñòðóíó áîêîâèíîé ïîäóøå÷êè áîëüøîãî ïàëüöà (åñòåñòâåííî, ëåâîé ðóêè).
Ñåé÷àñ ïîëó÷àåòñÿ îäíèì òîëüêî òðåáîâàíèåì ìûñëè, íà àâòîìàòå.

Èñêóñòâåííûå, èìõî, èñïîëüçóþò òîëüêî íà êëàññèêå. Ñëûøàë êàê-òî îäèí ýòþä, ñûãðàííûé ïî÷òè òîëüêî íà îäíèõ èñê. è íàò. ôëàæîëåòàõ.
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Èñêóâñòâåííûé ôëåæ,
Âðåìÿ: 11.01.2006 15:16 
Ýñòîíèÿ, Òàëëèí
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Òî÷íî.
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Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Èñêóâñòâåííûé ôëåæ,
Âðåìÿ: 11.01.2006 16:48 
Êðàñíîÿðñê-Ìîñêâ
ãèòàðà, ãîëîñ

à ÿ è íå ïîäêëþ÷àÿ ôëàæîëåò äåëàþ. :)
Ñâîáîäíûì ñ÷èòàåòñÿ ÷åëîâåê, ïîëüçóþùèéñÿ ñâîåé ñâîáîäîé - Êîíñòèòóöèÿ Øâåéöàðèè
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Èñêóâñòâåííûé ôëåæ,
Âðåìÿ: 11.01.2006 19:44 
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à åù¸ ôëàæîëåòû êðó÷å ïîëó÷àþòüñÿ íà ôëîéä-ðîóç!!! à íà ñòðàòîâñêîì áðèäæå èõ êàêòî ôèãîâî äåëàòü!!!
There are not guitarists, there are musicians playing on a guitar!
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Èñêóâñòâåííûé ôëåæ,
Âðåìÿ: 12.01.2006 07:24 



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