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                                         Âðåìÿ: 04.07.2010 18:48  | 
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Ñêîëüêî íå èãðàþ - íèêàê íå ìîãó äîãíàòü êàêèì ïðè¸ìîì èãðàòü áûñòðûå àêöåíòû, òèïà âîò ýòîãî:  Åñëè ó êîãî åñòü óïðàæíåíèÿ èëè îáúÿñíåíèÿ ýòîé òåõíèêè ïðîøó ïîäåëèòüñÿ, ïîæàëóéñòà  | 
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                                         Âðåìÿ: 04.07.2010 18:51  | 
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                                            Ìîñêâà Les Paul ![]()  | 
                                    ýýýý.... ïåðåìåííûé øòðèõ?.. | |
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                                         Âðåìÿ: 04.07.2010 18:56  | 
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                                            Áàðíàóë Fender Am Deluxe Strat ![]()  | 
                                    î ÷åì ðå÷ü-òî? õîòü îòðåçîê âðåìåíè óêàæè, ãäå ýòî ïðîèñõîäèò | |
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                                         Âðåìÿ: 04.07.2010 18:59  | 
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>ýýýý.... ïåðåìåííûé øòðèõ?.. Äà. íî ïðîáëåìà â òîì, ÷òî ÿ íå ìîãó ñûãðàòü ïåðåìåííûé øòðèõ, êîãäà â äàííîì ñëó÷àå 6-àÿ ñòðóíà ãëóøèòñÿ. à íà 5-îé íîòà îòêðûòàÿ. >î ÷åì ðå÷ü-òî? õîòü îòðåçîê âðåìåíè óêàæè, ãäå ýòî ïðîèñõîäèò Ñ 0:18 - 0:24  | 
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                                         Âðåìÿ: 04.07.2010 19:01  | 
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Íó èëè âîò åù¸ ïðèìåð:  Çäåñü ðèôô íà ýòîì ïîñòðîåí.  | 
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                                         Âðåìÿ: 04.07.2010 19:04  | 
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ïðîñòî íàäî ïðàâóþ ðóêó îòðûâàòü áûñòðî îò ãëóøåíèÿ à âîîáùå ñàáæ øêîëîòíûé  | 
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                                         Âðåìÿ: 04.07.2010 19:09  | 
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>ïðîñòî íàäî ïðàâóþ ðóêó îòðûâàòü áûñòðî îò ãëóøåíèÿ >à âîîáùå ñàáæ øêîëîòíûé Ìíå áû íà âèäåâå ýòî ïîñìîòðåòü. Íèãäå íå ìîãó íàéòè. Øêîëîòíûé òî øêîëîòíûé, íî ïîíÿòü êàê ýòî äåëàåòñÿ òî õî÷åòñÿ.  | 
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                                         Âðåìÿ: 04.07.2010 19:11  | 
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                                            Ìîñêâà SD Custom Guitar  | 
                                    áûñòðûå àêöåíòû, åñëè ïîäóìàòü, îíè òàêèå æå êàê è ìåäëåííûå, íî òîëüêî äåëàþòñÿ áûñòðî. | |
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 Ýòî ñåé÷àñ âñå ïî íàðîøêè. À ðàíüøå. Êàê æèëè òàê è èãðàëè. 
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                                         Âðåìÿ: 04.07.2010 19:16  | 
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>>î ÷åì ðå÷ü-òî? õîòü îòðåçîê âðåìåíè óêàæè, ãäå ýòî ïðîèñõîäèò >Ñ 0:18 - 0:24 ýììì... ïðîñòî ïðîñòî âûñåêàòü ñâåðõó âíèç íà äðîï ñòðîå, íåò?  | 
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                                         Âðåìÿ: 04.07.2010 19:20  | 
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>>>î ÷åì ðå÷ü-òî? õîòü îòðåçîê âðåìåíè óêàæè, ãäå ýòî ïðîèñõîäèò >>Ñ 0:18 - 0:24 >ýììì... ïðîñòî ïðîñòî âûñåêàòü ñâåðõó âíèç íà äðîï ñòðîå, íåò? Ìåõàíèêó ïîíÿë, íà ïðàêòèêå íå ïîëó÷àåòñÿ Ðóêà äâèãàåòñÿ êàê ïðè ïåðåìåííîì øòðèõå, íî çàãëóøàÿ 6-óþ ñòðóíó, íå ïîíèìàþ êàê ýòî ìîæíî ñäåëàòü òàê áûñòðî.  | 
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                                         Âðåìÿ: 04.07.2010 19:22  | 
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                                            Ìîñêâà Les Paul ![]()  | 
                                    À îò íàñ òî òû ÷åãî õî÷åøü? ×òîá ìû òåáå ïî èíòåó ïîñòàâèëè ðóêó? ïðàêòèêà îíëè | |
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                                         Òåìà: Re: Ïàìàæèòå êòî ÷åì ìîæåò! Áûñòðûå àêöåíòû.
                                        
                                         Âðåìÿ: 04.07.2010 19:22  | 
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> >Ìåõàíèêó ïîíÿë, íà ïðàêòèêå íå ïîëó÷àåòñÿ >Ðóêà äâèãàåòñÿ êàê ïðè ïåðåìåííîì øòðèõå, íî çàãëóøàÿ 6-óþ ñòðóíó, íå ïîíèìàþ êàê ýòî ìîæíî ñäåëàòü òàê áûñòðî. > æîïî÷àñû, íèêàê èíà÷å, òåì áîëåå åñëè ìåõàíèêó ïîíÿë  
                                        
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                                         Òåìà: Re: Ïàìàæèòå êòî ÷åì ìîæåò! Áûñòðûå àêöåíòû.
                                        
                                         Âðåìÿ: 04.07.2010 19:23  | 
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                                    ïîïðîáóé òî æå ñàìîå ïåðåìåííûì øòðèõîì: ñâåðõó âíèç, ñíèçó ââåðõ | |
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The Les Paul is a beautiful guitar but it’s heavy as shit! (c) Joan Jett  | 
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                                         Òåìà: Re: Ïàìàæèòå êòî ÷åì ìîæåò! Áûñòðûå àêöåíòû.
                                        
                                         Âðåìÿ: 04.07.2010 19:24  | 
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>×òîá ìû òåáå ïî èíòåó ïîñòàâèëè ðóêó?  åñòü òàêîé ÷åëîâåê, è âû åãî çíàåòå:  | 
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http://vk.com/ivandeus http://www.youtube.com/c/Deussoftwebru  | 
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                                         Âðåìÿ: 04.07.2010 19:24  | 
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>À îò íàñ òî òû ÷åãî õî÷åøü? ×òîá ìû òåáå ïî èíòåó ïîñòàâèëè ðóêó? ïðàêòèêà îíëè Íó êòî íèòü õîòü âèäåî ïîêàçàë, êàê ðóêà ïðè ýòîì äâèãàåòñÿ. ß ìîãó êîíå÷íî ùàñ çàïèñàòü, ÷òî ÿ äåëàþ è óâèäèòå â ÷¸ì ìîÿ îøèáêà.  | 
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                                         Âðåìÿ: 04.07.2010 19:28  | 
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>ß ìîãó êîíå÷íî ùàñ çàïèñàòü, ÷òî ÿ äåëàþ è óâèäèòå â ÷¸ì ìîÿ îøèáêà. > çàïèøè, òîëüêî íà ðóòóá íå âûêëàäûâàé  
                                        
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                                         Âðåìÿ: 04.07.2010 19:31  | 
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>>×òîá ìû òåáå ïî èíòåó ïîñòàâèëè ðóêó?  >åñòü òàêîé ÷åëîâåê, è âû åãî çíàåòå: >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRMitrg2jjc Âî! Òî, ÷òî íàäî. Ëó÷è ñ÷àñòüÿ è ÿùèê ïèâà òàùåìòà Âàì.  | 
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                                         Âðåìÿ: 04.07.2010 19:33  | 
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>Ëó÷è ñ÷àñòüÿ è ÿùèê ïèâà òàùåìòà Âàì. ìóæèê ñêàçàë - ìóæèê ñäåëàë  
                                        
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                                         Òåìà: Re: Ïàìàæèòå êòî ÷åì ìîæåò! Áûñòðûå àêöåíòû.
                                        
                                         Âðåìÿ: 04.07.2010 19:37  | 
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                                            Óñòü-Êàìåíîãîðñê, Êàçàõñòàí Ìàëåíüêèé Îâýéøí  | 
                                    
                                        
Çàêèäàéòå ìåíÿ ñåìåðêàìè, ÿ ðàíüøå äóìàë, ÷òî Ìýé Ëèàí - ýòî êàêîé-òî êðóòîé çàïàäíûé ãèòàðèñò...  
                                        
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                                         Âðåìÿ: 04.07.2010 19:41  | 
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 Iron Fox ,  íó òóò 2 ýëåìåíòà, íà êîòîðûõ ïîñòðîåíû ðèôû êàêîé èìåííî òåáå íå ïîíÿòåí - òîæå íå ÿñíî 1-é - ýòî ñ ïåðåìåííûì øòðèõîì óäàð âíèç ïî 6-é ñòðóíå ÷åðåäóåòñÿ ñ óäàðîì ââåðõ ñíèçó ïî 5-é ïðàâàÿ ðóêà ãëóøèò ñòðóíû âîçëå áðèäæà êîãäà èäåò óäàð ââåðõ ñíèçó - ðóêà îñòà¸òñÿ "âèñåòü" òîëüêî íà 6-é ñòðóíå åù¸ ëåâàÿ ðóêà äîëæíà ëåæàòü íà ãðèôå òàê, ÷òîáû ãëóøèëèñü 4 íèæíèå ñòðóíû ýòî íå ñëîæíî, ãëàâíîå êîíòðîëèðîâàòü, ÷òîáû ïàëüöû ñèëüíî íå ñãèáàëèñü è íå ïîëó÷àëîñü "äûðêè" 2-é ýëåìåíò - òðåëü ÿ óæ íå çíàþ íà êàêèõ ñòðóíàõ ýòî äåëàåòñÿ â ñàáæåâîì ïðèìåðå, íå ñíèìàë äîïóñòèì íà 5-é òîæå, òàê èíòåðåñíåå òîæå ñàìîå äåëàåò ïðàâàÿ ðóêà - ãëóøèò 6-þ ñòðóíó, "çàâèñàÿ" íà íåé ìåäèàòîð öåïëÿåò 5-þ ñòðóíó, ëåâàÿ ðóêà äà¸ò íåáîëüøóþ òðåëü èç 2-õ íîò - ñðåäíèé èëè áåçûìÿííûé ïàëåö ðåçêî óäàðÿåò íà 1-2 ëàäà âûøå è òóò æå îòïóñêàåò íîòó â èòîãå òðåëü èç 3-õ íîò è ïåðåõîä â äðóãîé áîêñ  | 
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                                         Âðåìÿ: 04.07.2010 19:56  | 
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Âîò, ñäåëàë. Äàóíñòðîêàìè ýòî ðåàëüíî ñûãðàòü, åñëè çà#######ñÿ. Íî íà âèäåî ýòè ðèôôû äàóíñòðîêàìè íå èãðàþòñÿ. Íå ïîëó÷àåòñÿ èìåííî ñ ïåðåìåííûì øòðèõîì. Âîò:  | 
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                                         Âðåìÿ: 04.07.2010 19:59  | 
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                                    Iron Fox , íó, ðóêîé òû òî÷íî íåïðàâèëüíî ðàáîòàåøü | |
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 Guitar players are always doing shit with feedback. They love it, everyone else hates it. (c) Ray Manzarek 
The Les Paul is a beautiful guitar but it’s heavy as shit! (c) Joan Jett  | 
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                                         Òåìà: Re: Ïàìàæèòå êòî ÷åì ìîæåò! Áûñòðûå àêöåíòû.
                                        
                                         Âðåìÿ: 04.07.2010 20:00  | 
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>Çàêèäàéòå ìåíÿ ñåìåðêàìè, ÿ ðàíüøå äóìàë, ÷òî Ìýé Ëèàí - ýòî êàêîé-òî êðóòîé çàïàäíûé ãèòàðèñò...  íå òû îäèí  
                                        
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                                         Òåìà: Re: Ïàìàæèòå êòî ÷åì ìîæåò! Áûñòðûå àêöåíòû.
                                        
                                         Âðåìÿ: 04.07.2010 20:01  | 
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> Iron Fox , íó, ðóêîé òû òî÷íî íåïðàâèëüíî ðàáîòàåøü Èìåííî ýòîò ïðè¸ì íå ïðàâèëüíî èëè âîîáùå âñÿ ïîñòàíîâêà ðóêè?  | 
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                                         Òåìà: Re: Ïàìàæèòå êòî ÷åì ìîæåò! Áûñòðûå àêöåíòû.
                                        
                                         Âðåìÿ: 04.07.2010 20:02  | 
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                                    Iron Fox , èìåííî ýòîò ïðèåì | |
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                                         Òåìà: Re: Ïàìàæèòå êòî ÷åì ìîæåò! Áûñòðûå àêöåíòû.
                                        
                                         Âðåìÿ: 04.07.2010 20:04  | 
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> Iron Fox , èìåííî ýòîò ïðèåì È â ÷ì¸ îøèáêà?:)  | 
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                                         Âðåìÿ: 04.07.2010 20:06  | 
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 Iron Fox , ÿ íå ýêñïåðò, ïðîñòî ñðàâíè ñ ïåðâûì âèäåî è âñå ñòàíåò ÿñíî  
                                        
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                                         Âðåìÿ: 04.07.2010 20:09  | 
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Âûðîñëî öåëîå ïîêîëåíèå, íå èãðàâøåå ìåòàëëèêó âàí   | 
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                                         Âðåìÿ: 04.07.2010 20:13  | 
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                                            Áàðíàóë Fender Am Deluxe Strat ![]()  | 
                                    
                                        
>Äà âîò ÷¸òî ÿ íå ìîãó ïîíÿòü... íó òåïåðü-òî ó òåáÿ åñòü âèäåî, âèäÿ ñåáÿ ñî ñòîðîíû ïîíÿòü ãîðàçäî ëåã÷å  
                                        
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 Guitar players are always doing shit with feedback. They love it, everyone else hates it. (c) Ray Manzarek 
The Les Paul is a beautiful guitar but it’s heavy as shit! (c) Joan Jett  | 
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                                         Òåìà: Re: Ïàìàæèòå êòî ÷åì ìîæåò! Áûñòðûå àêöåíòû.
                                        
                                         Âðåìÿ: 04.07.2010 20:24  | 
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                                            Ìîñêâà SD Custom Guitar  | 
                                    Iron Fox , ïðàâîé íå íàäî òàê ðàçìàõèâàòü, äâèæåíèÿ ýêîíîìè÷íûå íóæíû | |
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 Ýòî ñåé÷àñ âñå ïî íàðîøêè. À ðàíüøå. Êàê æèëè òàê è èãðàëè. 
http://vk.com/ivandeus http://www.youtube.com/c/Deussoftwebru  | 
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                                         Âðåìÿ: 04.07.2010 21:04  | 
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 Iron Fox ,  1 ÿ æå ðàñïèñàë âðîäå âñå ïîäðîáíî 2 òû íà âèäåî èãðàë áû ìåäëåííî, à òî íå âèäíî æ íèõðåíà ñ òàêèì êà÷åñòâîì  | 
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                                         Òåìà: Re: Ïàìàæèòå êòî ÷åì ìîæåò! Áûñòðûå àêöåíòû.
                                        
                                         Âðåìÿ: 04.07.2010 22:35  | 
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                                            Ìîñêâà jackson js32-7q  | 
                                    
                                        
Iron Fox, ñ òàêîé ïîñòàíîâêîé - ñðî÷íî ê ïðåïîäó. Òàê íè÷åãî äîñòè÷ü íå ïîëó÷èòüñÿ. È äà - íóæíî âñå èãðàòü ìååååäëåíîîîî. È òîëüêî ïîòîì, êîãäà âñå èäåàëüíî - íàðàùèâàòü ñêîðîñòü ïà÷êè.  | 
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                                         Âðåìÿ: 05.07.2010 16:37  | 
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                                            Êðàñíîãîðñê Gibson Les Paul Studio Custom 1984  | 
                                    àïñòðîóê ýòî âðîäå íàçûâàåòñÿ: 6óþ ïàëì ìüþòèíãîì øòðèõ âíèç, áûñòðî óáèðàåøü ïàëì è øòðèõ ââåðõ, ïîòîì áûñòðî îïÿòü ìüþòèøü è òàê äî ïîñèíåíèÿ, ïîêà íå çàäðî÷èøü. Ýòó ïåñíþ êñòàòè ïî-äðóãîìó íå ñûãðàåøü, î÷åíü óæ áûñòðàÿ | |
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                                         Òåìà: Re: Ïàìàæèòå êòî ÷åì ìîæåò! Áûñòðûå àêöåíòû.
                                        
                                         Âðåìÿ: 05.07.2010 16:43  | 
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                                            Êðàñíîãîðñê Gibson Les Paul Studio Custom 1984  | 
                                    ÿ â ñâîå âðåìÿ êîãäà ìèòàëêîðîì ãîðåë òîæå íå ìîã âêàòèòü, êàê òàêîå èãðàòü, íî ïîòîì äîäóìàëñÿ äî àïñòðîóêà, çàäðî÷èë è ùàñ áûñòðî ìîãó | |
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