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Ìóëüòè-èíñòðóìåíò...  
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Íåäàâíî ñòîëêíóëñÿ ñ ïðîáëåìîé çâó÷àíèÿ ðèôôîâ: ÿ âñåãäà çàïèñûâàþ ðèôôû â äâå õîäêè òîåñòü çàïèñûâàþ ëåâûé ðèôô,è ñëåäîì ïðàâûé.Ïðàâèëüíî-ëè ÿ äåëàþ,èëè íóæíî çàïèñûâàòü ñðàçó â äâà òðýêà,à ïîòîì îäèí çàäåðæèâàòü íà íåñêîëüêî ì.ñ.? Ñëåäóþùåå: Êàêèå ÷àñòîòû íàäî ïîäðåçàòü äëÿ æ¸ñòêîãî çâó÷àíèÿ,è ìàêñèìàëüíîãî ãàðìîíèðîâàíèÿ ñ áàñîì è óäàðíûìè? òîæå ñàìîå êàñàåòñÿ áàñà... Ðèòìè÷íîñòü: èäåëüíî ðîâíàÿ çàïèñü,òî åñòü ðèôôû ðîâíî ïî äîëÿì,âîçìîæíî,èëè âñ¸-òàêè â ñòóäèéêàõ èõ êàê-òî ïîäðàâíèâàþò? Åñëè åñòü ïðîôè,ïîäåëèòåñü îïûòîì äëÿ íà÷èíàþùèõ) 
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Òåìà: Re: Çàïèñü ðèôôîâ (ñâåäåíèå)
Âðåìÿ: 31.05.2008 16:57 |
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Î÷åíü ïëîõîé ìîäåðàòîð
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>çàïèñûâàþ ëåâûé ðèôô,è ñëåäîì ïðàâûé Èìåííî òàê, è íèêàê ïî äðóãîìó. >Êàêèå ÷àñòîòû íàäî ïîäðåçàòü äëÿ æ¸ñòêîãî çâó÷àíèÿ,è ìàêñèìàëüíîãî ãàðìîíèðîâàíèÿ ñ áàñîì è óäàðíûìè? òîæå ñàìîå êàñàåòñÿ áàñà... Ëó÷øå ñ ñàìîãî íà÷àëà íå ïåðåáàðùèâàòü ñ íèçàìè, è íå ñèëüíî óáèðàòü ñåðåäèíó - îíà â ãèòàðå ãëàâíîå, âåðõè ïî âêóñó. Áàñ (åñëè æèâîé) ïåðåä ñâåäåíèåì ëó÷øå êîìïðåññèðîâàòü, ÷òîá íå áûëî ëèøíèõ âñïëåñêîâ, îñîáåííî åñëè áàñ ìåäèàòîðíûé. >Ðèòìè÷íîñòü: èäåëüíî ðîâíàÿ çàïèñü,òî åñòü ðèôôû ðîâíî ïî äîëÿì,âîçìîæíî,èëè âñ¸-òàêè â ñòóäèéêàõ èõ êàê-òî ïîäðàâíèâàþò? Ðîâíÿþò îáû÷íî áàðàáàíû, è ÷àñòåíüêî âîêàë. À ãèòàðó ëó÷øå ñðàçó ïèñàòü õîðîøî, íå ðàâíÿòü - èíà÷å äèíàìèêà òåðÿåòñÿ. Ïðè÷åì íå îáÿçàòåëüíî ÷òîáû âñå ïîïàäàëî íó ñîâñåì èäåàëüíî â äîëè, ãëàâíîå ÷òîáû äóáëè ìàêñèìàëüíî ñîâïàäàëè íà ïèêàõ. |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàïèñü ðèôôîâ (ñâåäåíèå)
Âðåìÿ: 31.05.2008 17:03 |
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ÏÝÒÁÓËÜ +1 
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Òåìà: Re: Çàïèñü ðèôôîâ (ñâåäåíèå)
Âðåìÿ: 31.05.2008 17:21 |
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Ìóëüòè-èíñòðóìåíò...
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ÏÝÒÚÁÓËÜ, Áîëüøîå ÷åëîâå÷åñêîå ñïàñèáî))) èñ÷åðïûâàþùèé îòâåò))) | |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàïèñü ðèôôîâ (ñâåäåíèå)
Âðåìÿ: 31.05.2008 17:24 |
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Ìóëüòè-èíñòðóìåíò...
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ÏÝÒÚÁÓËÜ, êñòàòè êàê áûòü ñî ñòðóíàìè,äëÿ ðèôôîâûõ è ñîëî ìîæíî èñïîëüçîâàòü óñðåäí¸ííûé êàëèáð,êàêîé? èëè â îñíîâíîì ïðîôè çàïèñûâàþò íà ðàçíûõ èíñòðóìåíòàõ? | |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàïèñü ðèôôîâ (ñâåäåíèå)
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Î÷åíü ïëîõîé ìîäåðàòîð
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>ÏÝÒÚÁÓËÜ, êñòàòè êàê áûòü ñî ñòðóíàìè,äëÿ ðèôôîâûõ è ñîëî ìîæíî èñïîëüçîâàòü óñðåäí¸ííûé êàëèáð,êàêîé? Èçâèíè, íî ýòî óæå ãëóïûé âîïðîñ))) 
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Òåìà: Re: Çàïèñü ðèôôîâ (ñâåäåíèå)
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Ìóëüòè-èíñòðóìåíò...
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>Èçâèíè, íî ýòî óæå ãëóïûé âîïðîñ))) ÿ çíàþ,÷òî ãëóïûé,íî è íà ãëóïûå âîïðîñû íàäî çíàòü îòâåòû) |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàïèñü ðèôôîâ (ñâåäåíèå)
Âðåìÿ: 31.05.2008 17:38 |
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Âîîáùå ÿ ÷èòàë ÷òî òî(íåìíîæêî) è âèäîñ êàê òî ñìîòðåë ïî ñâåäåíèþ,íî òàì ïîêàçàíî äëÿ òàíöåâàëüíîé ìóçûêè,ãîâîðèëîñü ÷òî òî ïðèìåðíî-ãèòàðó ðåæóò îáû÷íî ñî 100 ãö è ÷òîá ïîëíîñòüþ çàòóõàëà óæå íà 80 ãäå òî,ýòî â ïëàíå òîãî,÷òîá íå ïåðåêðûâàëñÿ áàñ,áî÷êà è ãèòàðà è íå áûëî áóáíåæà,è íå âàæíî êàê ãèòàðà çâó÷èò îòäåëüíî(íå òîëüêî ãèòàðà à âîîáùå ëþáîé èíñòðóìåíò) âàæíî êàê ýòî áóäåò çâó÷àòü â ìèêñå,íó ÷å òî ïðèìåðíî òàêîãî,íî ÿ ïðîáîâàë,ó ìåíÿ çàïèñûâàåò ãèòàðó èçíà÷àëüíî ïëîõî)ïîýòîìó êîãäà ÿ ðåæó ñî 90-100,íèçîâ âîîáùå íåò íè êóÿ,ñëèøêîì ïëîñêî çâó÷èò,ìàëî òîãî,çàïèñü ñàìà ïî ñåáå òèõàÿ,íî äàæå áåç íèçîâ òàì ÷å òî óìóäðÿåòñÿ ïåðäåòü,õç...ñêàçàëè â ðàçäåëå ñòóäèéíûé çâóê êîìáèê íî êîìíàòå ïîíîñèòü â ðàçíûõ ïîëîæåíèÿõ ñòàâèòü,çàïèñûâàòü,ñëóøàòü è ò.ä. à íàñ÷åò ñåðåäèíû Ïèò ñêàçàë óæå Êñòàòè ! êòî çíàåò êàê â êóáåéñå èëè íóýíäî îáîçíà÷èòü 2 è áîëåå äîðîæêè â îäíó ãðóïïîâóþ,÷òîá íà îäíó ãðóïïîâóþ ïîâåñèòü ïëàãèí è ðóëèòü óæå ñðàçó äëÿ âñåõ,à íå ïî îäíîé ? ó ìåíÿ ÷åò íå ïîëó÷àåòñÿ. |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàïèñü ðèôôîâ (ñâåäåíèå)
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Ìóëüòè-èíñòðóìåíò...
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>Êñòàòè ! êòî çíàåò êàê â êóáåéñå èëè íóýíäî îáîçíà÷èòü 2 è áîëåå äîðîæêè â îäíó ãðóïïîâóþ,÷òîá íà îäíó ãðóïïîâóþ ïîâåñèòü ïëàãèí è ðóëèòü óæå ñðàçó äëÿ âñåõ,à íå ïî îäíîé ? ó ìåíÿ ÷åò íå ïîëó÷àåòñÿ. Ïîìîéìó òàì òàêîãî íåò,òàì åñòü êàêîé-òî FX òðýê? ìîæåò ýòî îíî ñàìîå? |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàïèñü ðèôôîâ (ñâåäåíèå)
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íå,òî÷íî åñòü,group track íàçûâàåòñÿ,ïðîñòî ÿ íå ïîéìó êàê â íåãî êàê áû çàñóíóòü/îáîçíà÷èòü òå äîðîæêè êîòîðûå íóæíû | |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàïèñü ðèôôîâ (ñâåäåíèå)
Âðåìÿ: 31.05.2008 17:49 |
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♯ ♪ ♭ ♫ ♮ ♪ 
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6ëÿ  íàïèñàë îòâàåò ïðî ãðóïïîâîé òðåê, à îí íå çàïîñòèëñÿ |
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Îäíó çàòÿæêó äî ÷åðòûûû
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Òåìà: Re: Çàïèñü ðèôôîâ (ñâåäåíèå)
Âðåìÿ: 31.05.2008 17:51 |
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♯ ♪ ♭ ♫ ♮ ♪
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êîðî÷å ãîâîðÿ äîáîâëÿåøü group channel track, à â out-å stereo/mono/midi òðåêà â êà÷åñòâå ìàñòåð øèíû óêàçûâàåøü ýòîò group track, çàåòì íà íåãî óæå âåøàåøü âñå ÷òî òåáå íóæíî. fx òðåê èñïîëüçóåòñÿ äëÿ ïîñûëà, ÷òîáû ïîäìåøèâàòü çâóê îáðàáîòêè ê îñíîâíîìó. |
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Îäíó çàòÿæêó äî ÷åðòûûû
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Òåìà: Re: Çàïèñü ðèôôîâ (ñâåäåíèå)
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ÿ êñòàòè ñïåöèàëüíî êîïèðóþ íà âñÿêèé òî,÷òî ïèøó,ïîòîìó ÷òî õåðà÷èøü õåðà÷èøü è êàêàÿ íèáóäü ñðàíàÿ îøèáêà -1 âûëåçåò è ïèïåö,èëè àð.åÿ ïðîñêî÷èò è æîïà) | |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàïèñü ðèôôîâ (ñâåäåíèå)
Âðåìÿ: 31.05.2008 17:53 |
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ß Æåíàò Íà Ñâîåé Äåâóøêå 
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>6ëÿ >íàïèñàë îòâàåò ïðî ãðóïïîâîé òðåê, à îí íå çàïîñòèëñÿ rjgbgfcn ljk;ty ,snm e;t d ghbdsxrt yf va ^7^ |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàïèñü ðèôôîâ (ñâåäåíèå)
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Ìóëüòè-èíñòðóìåíò...
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- âî íà ÷¸ íàòêíóëñÿ 
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Òåìà: Re: Çàïèñü ðèôôîâ (ñâåäåíèå)
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Ìóëüòè-èíñòðóìåíò...
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÷òî-òî ÿ çàñóíóë ïàðî÷êó òðýêîâ â ýòîò "Group track",ïîëîæèë íà íåãî ýôôåêò è íèêóÿ íå èçìåíèëîñü 
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Òåìà: Re: Çàïèñü ðèôôîâ (ñâåäåíèå)
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Ìóëüòè-èíñòðóìåíò...
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ðàçîáðàëñÿ ,òàì íàäî íà òðýêå êîòîðûé âñòàâèë â "Group Track" íàäî âûáðàòü â îêíå ñëåâà "in-out" â ãðàôå "out" - ñòðî÷êó "Group" è áóäåò âàì ñ÷àñòüå)
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Fender Stratocaster Deluxe, Schecter Jeff Loomis Signature, Ibanez RGD7 Uppercut + Mesa Restifier Preamp Mesa 2:50 Amp + Custom Cab 4*12. Bass: Ibanez 5006 + Ampeg SVT Preamp + Marshall MB150.
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Òåìà: Re: Çàïèñü ðèôôîâ (ñâåäåíèå)
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äà ÿ ïîíÿë óæ òîæå,çà ÷òî äæàçó ñïàñèáî) | |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàïèñü ðèôôîâ (ñâåäåíèå)
Âðåìÿ: 31.05.2008 18:34 |
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Ìóëüòè-èíñòðóìåíò...
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>êîðî÷å ãîâîðÿ äîáîâëÿåøü group channel track, à â out-å stereo/mono/midi òðåêà â êà÷åñòâå ìàñòåð øèíû óêàçûâàåøü ýòîò group track, çàåòì íà íåãî óæå âåøàåøü âñå ÷òî òåáå íóæíî. ïî÷åìó-òî ÿ ýòîãî íå çàìåòèë,ïîðà áðîñàòü 
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Òåìà: Re: Çàïèñü ðèôôîâ (ñâåäåíèå)
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Ìóëüòè-èíñòðóìåíò...
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Mr.Kraken, êñòàòè êðàêåí)) ãîâîèøü,êîãäà âûðåçàåøü íè æå 80-100 íåò áàñîâ âîîáùå,à ïðèíöèïå âåäü èõ è íå äîëæíî áûòü))) ýòî ÷àñòîòó íà ñåáÿ áåð¸ò áàñ,ïðîñòî íàäî ÷òîáû áàñ áûë ïëîòíûì ,ìîæäó áàñîì è Ðèôôàìè íåáûëî ÷àñòîòíîãî ïðîâàëà,òî åñòü ,åñëè âûðåçàåøü äî 100 ó ãèòàðû,òî ó áàñà äî ñòà ïðåïîäíèìàåøü,òàê îíè äîëæíû ñëèòüñÿ ïî èäåå) ïîïðîáóé) | |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàïèñü ðèôôîâ (ñâåäåíèå)
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Ìóëüòè-èíñòðóìåíò...
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âîò ïðèìåð÷èê,áåç áàñà è áàðàáàíîâ õðóñò íå òðóøíûé,à ñ áàñîì âðîäå íè÷¸
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Òåìà: Re: Çàïèñü ðèôôîâ (ñâåäåíèå)
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Òåìà: Re: Çàïèñü ðèôôîâ (ñâåäåíèå)
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Ìóëüòè-èíñòðóìåíò...
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Àíòèïëàù, àíòèïëàù ó òåáÿ â ðèôôàõ óáèòû áàñû íèæå 100 ãåðö,ëþáûå ìîäóëÿòîðû(õîðóñû,ôëàäæýðû),óáèâàþò áàñû íàïðî÷ü)))) è äàáë òðýê ÷àñòè÷íî òîæå) | |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàïèñü ðèôôîâ (ñâåäåíèå)
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Íó êñòàòè äà,ïðîñòî ó ìåíÿ âîîáùå åùå ìàíèÿ çà ãðîìêîñòüþ,åñëè òèõî,òî ìåíÿ ýòî æóòêî áåñèò,à ÷óòêà ïîäíèìàþ ãðîìêîñòü è ïåðäåæ òóò æå âûëåçàåò)) âîò êñòàòå |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàïèñü ðèôôîâ (ñâåäåíèå)
Âðåìÿ: 31.05.2008 19:58 |
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Àñòðàõàíü ãèòàðû 
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êñòàòè ìîæíî åùå è ñàìè äàáë òðåêè äóáëèðîâàòü)) Èíîãäà î÷åíü èíòåðåñíî ïîëó÷àåòñÿ. À ñîëî êòî íèáóäü ïèøåò ðàçíûìè äîðîæêàìè, êàê ðåíäè ðîàäñ èëè âñå òàêè èìïðîâèçàöèÿ ïðèñóòñòâóåò? | |
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Òåìà: Re: Çàïèñü ðèôôîâ (ñâåäåíèå)
Âðåìÿ: 31.05.2008 20:00 |
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Washburn N4
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Íó âïðî÷åì, ÿ ïðîñòî çà ìèòîëîì íå ãîíþñü Ó ìåíÿ íåò íåîáõîäèìîñòè â ìîùíûõ áàñàõ Âñå ïðàâèëüíî, íèæå 100 Ãö âñå îáðåçàíî. ×åò íå â òó òåìó âëåç êàðî÷å :]]] Ýíäè Âàêñ êñòàòè ãîâîðèò, ÷òî ëó÷øå îáðåçàòü íèçû ó ãèòàðû ãäå òî íèæå 100 Ãö. À åñëè õî÷åøü ìîùíûõ íèçîâ, òî òîëñòûå ñòðóíû è ïîíèæåííûé ñòðîé. |
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No pity. No mercy. No remorse.
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