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Òåìà: Epiphone Zakk Wylde signature Les Paul Custom ?
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Epiphone Zakk Wylde signature Les Paul Custom (http://www.epiphone.com/default.asp?ProductID=244&CollectionID=6) ñòîèò ëè ýòà ãèòàðêà ñâîèõ äåíåã ? Ïî ìîåìó çàíå¸ îêîëî 1000 áà÷åé ïðîñÿò ! | |
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Òàëàíò!))) | |
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Ìîñêâà EC-1000 
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Ó íåãî ñåãîäíÿ ñëîâåñíûé ïîíîñ. À ãèòàðêà,íó íåçíàþ,íî ñòðàøíàÿ îíà |
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Òåìà: Re: Epiphone Zakk Wylde signature Les Paul Custom ?
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Îðèãèíàë êðó÷å! á/ï!)) | |
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Áëèí, äà çíàþ ÿ ÷òî îðèãèíàë êðó÷å ! Íî ñòîèò 5000ó.å. à ýòà ïàëêà 1000 ! | |
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Òåìà: Re: Epiphone Zakk Wylde signature Les Paul Custom ?
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ÐíÄ Gibson Stratocaster`38 8-string Custom Shop EMG 812\633 
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2bbk ãèòàðà çà 1000óå òàêîå#######÷òî òû íå ïîíèìàåøü êàê íà í¸ì èãðàòü?!? ìíå òåáÿ æàëü. ìíîãèå èãðàþò, çíà÷èò èãðàòü ìîæíî... óæ ïîëó÷øå ôëàåâ, è ôèëîâ à âåäü è íà íèõ èãðàþò, òàê ÷òî ãëóïîñòè íå ãîâîðè... íà âèä î÷åíü ñèìïîòèøíàÿ, íî óâåðåí öåíà çàâûøåíà. |
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Òåìà: Re: Epiphone Zakk Wylde signature Les Paul Custom ?
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Ñîëíöåâî Îôñëûùò ÑÀËÎåñò, Ñàíòà Ôå, Ýëèòíûé Êàëèôîðíèéñêèé Ìîëîòîê 
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"Íà ÿíâàðñêîé âûñòàâêå NAMM Epiphone ïðåäñòàâèëè äâå ïîäïèñíûå ìîäåëè Les Paul Çàêêà Óàéëäà – çåëåíîé êàìóôëÿæíîé ðàñöâåòêè è îðàíæåâîé â âèäå "öèðêóëÿðíîé ïèëû" – è ïîýòîìó ñîâåðøåííî åñòåñòâåííî, ÷òî Çàêê âî âðåìÿ èíòåðâüþ è çàïèñè âèäåîøêîëû äåðæèò â ðóêàõ íå ñâîé Gibson, à Epiphone. "Íóæíî áóäåò åãî ðàçûãðàòü êàê ñëåäóåò", - óõìûëÿåòñÿ Çàêê. Óàéëäà î÷åíü çàáîòèò åãî ðåïóòàöèÿ â ãëàçàõ ïîêëîííèêîâ òÿæåëîãî ìåòàëëà, ïîýòîìó òî, ÷òî îí "ïðîäâèãàåò" îòíîñèòåëüíî äîñòóïíûå ïîäïèñíûå ìîäåëè, èìååò äëÿ íåãî áîëüøîå çíà÷åíèå. - ×òî êàñàåòñÿ îáîðóäîâàíèÿ, òî ñ ýòèì ó ìåíÿ âñå â ïîðÿäêå, - ïðèçíàåò îí, - íî øêîëüíèê íå ìîæåò ñåáå ïîçâîëèòü ïðèîáðåñòè òàêèå âåùè. Ñóäÿ ïî ñîñòîÿíèþ ìîåé ïå÷åíè, ïîäæåëóäî÷íîé æåëåçû è ïî÷åê, ìíå 624 ãîäà. ß ïðÿìî êàê Éîäà! Íî íà ñàìîì äåëå, åñëè ãîâîðèòü ñåðüåçíî, ðåáåíîê íå ìîæåò ñåáå ïîçâîëèòü èìåòü ãèòàðó çà 2000 ôóíòîâ. Òàê ÷òî ïîêà îí ó÷èòñÿ èãðàòü, îí ïîêóïàåò ÷òî-òî áîëåå äîñòóïíîå ïî öåíå, è ýòî òàê êðóòî – êîïèòü äåíüãè íà èíñòðóìåíòû âûñøåãî êëàññà. Ìîæíî âçÿòü ëþáóþ ãèòàðó, íà êîòîðîé ñòîèò ìîå èìÿ, è ñûãðàòü êîíöåðò, òîëüêî äîñòàâ åå èç êîðîáêè. Íà âîò ýòîé, íàïðèìåð, ñòîÿò äàò÷èêè EMG, ñäåëàííûå íà îñíîâå êîìïëåêòà EMG 81/85. Åñëè áû îíè ñòîÿëè íà ìîåì Gibson, îí çâó÷àë áû î÷åíü ïîõîæå íà ýòîò Epiphone. Ýòè EMG HZ íà ñàìîì äåëå õîðîøè"- ñ ñàéòà guitars.ru |
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Òåìà: Re: Epiphone Zakk Wylde signature Les Paul Custom ?
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Ñîëíöåâî Îôñëûùò ÑÀËÎåñò, Ñàíòà Ôå, Ýëèòíûé Êàëèôîðíèéñêèé Ìîëîòîê
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À âîîáùå, Çàêê îäíàæäû ñêàçàë : "Ýïèôîí - âåëèêîå äåðüìî"! | |
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SPEED = EMOTION
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Òåìà: Re: Epiphone Zakk Wylde signature Les Paul Custom ?
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Ñîëíöåâî Îôñëûùò ÑÀËÎåñò, Ñàíòà Ôå, Ýëèòíûé Êàëèôîðíèéñêèé Ìîëîòîê
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Ïàññèâêè. Èõ Àëåêñè Ëàéõî ëþáèò. | |
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SPEED = EMOTION
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Òåìà: Re: Epiphone Zakk Wylde signature Les Paul Custom ?
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Ñîëíöåâî Îôñëûùò ÑÀËÎåñò, Ñàíòà Ôå, Ýëèòíûé Êàëèôîðíèéñêèé Ìîëîòîê
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À Ââê - ýòî òèïà dvd-ïðîèãðûâàòåëè? | |
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SPEED = EMOTION
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Òåìà: Re: Epiphone Zakk Wylde signature Les Paul Custom ?
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Íåò. Âåëèêèé Âàêàê Êàêåð | |
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Òåìà: Re: Epiphone Zakk Wylde signature Les Paul Custom ?
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Ìîñêâà
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Ýïèôîíû - ñòóäåí÷åñêèå ãèòàðû! Ìîæåò, êðàñèâûå, íî íå áîëåå òîãî. Åñëè òû ãîíèøüñÿ çà êðàñîòîé, à íå çà çâóêîì - ñìåëî ïîêóïàé! Åñëè íóæåí çâóê, òî ìîãó ñêàçàòü, ÷òî öåíà Ýïèôîíà - 70% îò òîé, çà ÷òî åå ïðîäàþò (èìõî), ïîòîìó êàê öåíó íàêðó÷èâàþò çà ñ÷åò èìåíè, à óäåøåâëÿþò çà ñ÷åò çâóêà (äåðåâî!)... | |
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Òåìà: Re: Epiphone Zakk Wylde signature Les Paul Custom ?
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Òåìà: Re: Epiphone Zakk Wylde signature Les Paul Custom ?
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Òåìà: Re: Epiphone Zakk Wylde signature Les Paul Custom ?
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Çàêê ñêàçàë :"Great shit", ÷òî â ñìûñëîâîì, à íå äîñëîâíîì,ïåðåâîäå ñ áóðæóéñêîãî ÿâëÿåòñÿ ïîõâàëîé. Åñëè á îíè åìó íå íðàâèëèñü, îí áû ñêàçàë: "Real shit" 
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Òåìà: Re: Epiphone Zakk Wylde signature Les Paul Custom ?
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Òåìà: Re: Epiphone Zakk Wylde signature Les Paul Custom ?
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îòëè÷íîå ãàâíî... òî÷íî ñêàçàíî... | |
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Òåìà: Re: Epiphone Zakk Wylde signature Les Paul Custom ?
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Íå EMG HZ, à EMG HZ h4... Ðàçíûå âåùè... | |
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Òåìà: Re: Epiphone Zakk Wylde signature Les Paul Custom ?
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Ìîñêâà CME, Eventide, AKAI 
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Öåíà íå â ìåðó çàâûøåíà. Çâóê ýïèôîíîâñêèõ áàðèòîíîâ ìíå íðàâèòñÿ áîëüøå. Îíè åùå õîòü ÷åãî-òî ìîãóò. | |
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No use for a signature
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Òåìà: Re: Epiphone Zakk Wylde signature Les Paul Custom ?
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Äåëî âñ¸ â òîì ÷òî òàì è ãðèô êàê ó Çàêà(êòî çíåàò òîò ïîéì¸ò) è äåðåâî ìàõàãîíè ! Äà è âûãëÿäèò àõðåíåííà ! Íî ìíå íå íðàâÿòñÿ çâó÷êè Í4, ÿ ïðèâûê ê çâóêó ñâîèõ 81 ! À âåäü åñëè âçÿòü ãëóáæå, òî äëÿ àêòèâíûõ çâó÷êîâ ïî õ.é êàêîå äåðåâî âîáùåì ! Äà ? Åñëè âçÿòü õîðîøèé àíàëîã ËÏ áàêñîâ çà 800 ïîñòàâèòü 81å çâó÷êè, çàøêóðèòü ãðèô, ïåðêðàñèòü âåäü íåáîëüøå âûéäåò ? Ïèøó ýòî âñ¸ ïîòîìó ÷òî âîçìîæíîñòè ïîñëóøàòü òàêóþ ïàëêó ó ìåíÿ íåò ! Ïðîøó ñîâåòà ! |
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Òåìà: Re: Epiphone Zakk Wylde signature Les Paul Custom ?
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À ×ÒÎ ÊÐÓ×Å ÃÎÐÈÒ?? ÝÏÈÔÎÍ ÈËÈ ÃÈÁÑÎÍ??? | |
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Òåìà: Re: Epiphone Zakk Wylde signature Les Paul Custom ?
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ìëÿ, êàêîé óìíèê âûäóìàë, ÷òî àêòèâíûì çâó÷êàì ïîõ íà äåðåâÿõó?! íàêîëíàõ çàñðàíöà! SCOUT, ýòî âñå òåîðèÿ.. Íàäî ñëóøàòü! Íå ìîæåøü ïîñëóøàòü - íå ðèñêóé. Õîòÿ äåëî òâîå... Ìîæåøü êóïèòü íà óäà÷ó, åñëè íå ïîíðàâèòñÿ ïîâåñèøü íà ñòåíêó - îòëè÷íî áóäåò ñìîòðåööà!)) |
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Òåìà: Re: Epiphone Zakk Wylde signature Les Paul Custom ?
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã Warmoth JDB 
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Íàôèã íàäî. Ïÿòü ìèíóò ìó÷àë ñâîé Òîêàé è ñðàâíèâàë ñ ñàáæåì. Òîêàé ëó÷øå. È ñòîèò äåøåâëå. | |
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Ãîëîâà -> ðóêè -> ãèòàðû -> îáðàáîòêà
âûëîæèë (ñâîå òâîð÷åñòâî íà ÌÔ-ïðèì.) - ïîëó÷è ñâîþ ïîðöèþ êàëà è áóäü ñòîåê è òâåðä (ñ) Ìèõàëû÷ú 40‰ |
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Ìîñêâà
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SCOUT åñëè êîðåéñêàÿ ãèòàðà - îëüõà, åñëè ÿïîíñêàÿ - êðàñíîå äåðåâî... ÿïîíñêàÿ ñòîèò ÷óòü-÷óòü äåøåâëå Ãèïñàíà 
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Òåìà: Re: Epiphone Zakk Wylde signature Les Paul Custom ?
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äà íîðìàëüíàÿ ãèòàðà, ÷å âû âñå ãîíèòå####òü îòöå#######âàñ! êàêîéòî äåáèë ñêàçàë ÷òî åñëè äàò÷èê àêòèâíû, òî åìó ïîõ êàêîå äåðåâî, - ýòîæ èäèîòèçì - ãèòàðà ÷òî ðåçîíèðóåò ïî äðóãîìó åñëè íà íåé àêòèâíûé äàò÷èê ñòîèò???!!!?!?!?!?!?! çà ñâîè äåíüãè î÷åíü õîðîøàÿ ãèòàðà äàííûé ýïèôîí - äîðîãèå ïàëêè âïîëíå ó íèõ îïðàâäûâàþò ñâîþ öåíó, äðóãîé âîïðîñ ÷òî ìîæíî çà òàêèå äåíüãè ëó÷øå âçÿòü, è âîîáùå âû çäåñü âñå ïðÿì îòöû åïò, õîðîøàÿ ãèòàðà, à âñå ðàâíî ó âàñ ãàâíîì ñ÷èòàåòñÿ - êàê? ïî÷åìó êîðåéñêèé ËÒÄ îïðàâäûâàåò ñâîþ öåíó à ýïèôîí íåò? äà êòî-íèáóäü èç âàñ õîòü ñëóøàë åãî? õîòü èãðàë íà íåì? äà äåøîâûå ìîäåëè ãîâíî, íî ýòî äîðîãàÿ(îòíîñèòåëüíî) õîðîøàÿ ãèòàðà! âîîáùå ÿ ñ÷èòàþ, ÷òî ïîêà òû íå ñèäèøü â ñòóäèè è íå çàíèìàåøüñÿ ïðîôåññèîíàëüíî, íó èëè òû íå ôåòèøèñò, òî íà êîé òå ãèòàðà çà 5000? ïî ìíå ãëàâíîå ÷òîá îíà áîëåå-ìåíåå çâó÷àëà è áûëà óäîáíà, óäîáñòâî ãëàâíîå, îñòàëüíîå âòîðîñòåïåííî, â òàêîì öåíîâîì äèàïàçîíå ãèòàðû(åñëè áðàòü õîðîøèå à íå ðåàëüíîå ãîâíåâî òèïà íîâûõ èáàíåçîâ ñ ãîâíÿöêèì æåëåçîì) çâó÷àò îäèíàêîâî õîðîøî, êîíå÷íî çà 5000 êàñòîì øîï ãîðàçäî ëó÷øå ÷åì êîðåÿ çà êîñàðü, íî êòî ñêàçàë, ÷òî ýòà êîðåÿ ãîâíî????? íîðìàëüíàÿ ãèòàðà, íå õóæå äðóãèõ, îíè âñå íå ñèëüíî êà÷åñòâîì îòëè÷àþòñÿ, âñå ðàâíî èõ âñåõ äîðàáàòûâàòü ïîòîì, à äåðåâÿõà ó ýïèôîíà õîðîøàÿ (ó ýòîãî êîíêðåòíîãî) |
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Ìàëü÷åã, ÷å îðåøü? Òóò íèêòî, êðîìå êàêîãî-òî ÷óäèêà, ýòó ãèòàðó ãàâíîì íå íàçûâàë. À âîò òû ÷îò ðàñïèñäåëñÿ íå ïî-äåööêè.. Ãîâîðèøü, Èáàíåç çà 1000$ ãàâíî? íó-íó..))) |
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Òåìà: Re: Epiphone Zakk Wylde signature Les Paul Custom ?
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SO, SAY WHAT!
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Ïðî òî,÷òî óäîáñòâî ïðè èãðå-îäèí èç ãëàâíûõ ïîêàçàòåëåé,ñîâåðøåííî ñîãëàñåí.Äåðåâÿõà âîçìîæíî õîðîøàÿ,íî çà 1000$ ìîíî Ãèáñ âçÿòü,ËÏ Ñòóäèî-ëè,Ñà Ñòàíäàðò,àìåðèêàíñêîãî ïðîèçâîäñòâà!Äóìàòü,äóìàòü è åùå ðàç äóìàòü!À âîîáùå àâòîðèòåòîâ áûòü íå äîëæíî,õî÷åøü êóïèòü ãèòàðó,èäè â ìàãàç,èãðàé,ñðàâíèâàé,è.ò.ä.Ãëàâíîå-òâîè ëè÷íûå îùóùåíèÿ! | |
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áëÿ, äà êòîæ â çäðàâîì óìå áóäåò áðàòü ÊÎÐÅÉÖÀ çà ØÒÓÊÀÐÜ?? | |
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Òåìà: Re: Epiphone Zakk Wylde signature Les Paul Custom ?
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Àâòîð, íó ÿ ñ òåáÿ óãàðàþ! Íè÷åãî ëó÷øå íå íàøåë, êàê ñïðàøèâàòü íà ýòîì ôîðóìå ñîâåòà! Äà áîëüøèíñòâî ôîðóì÷àí íå çíàåò òîëêîì, êòî òàêîé Çàê Óàéëä! Ùà òåáå òóò íàñîâåòóþò! | |
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Òåìà: Re: Epiphone Zakk Wylde signature Les Paul Custom ?
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R.I.P Çàê Óàéëä 
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Òåìà: Re: Epiphone Zakk Wylde signature Les Paul Custom ?
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ÐíÄ Gibson Stratocaster`38 8-string Custom Shop EMG 812\633
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2guest âîò òû èäèîò... |
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Áûë ÑÐÂ... áîëüøå íèêîãî íåáûëî è íåòó.
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Òåìà: Re: Epiphone Zakk Wylde signature Les Paul Custom ?
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Ïàñèáî ! Ðåàëüíî ïîñëóøàòü íåãäå ! Ìíå èíòåðåñíî ìíåíèå òåõ êòî èãðàë ! | |
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Òåìà: Re: Epiphone Zakk Wylde signature Les Paul Custom ?
Âðåìÿ: 12.03.2006 18:45 |
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Ìîñêâà CME, Eventide, AKAI
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Õì, òû íå ñ Ìîñêâû ÷òîëü? Òû ìåíÿ çàèíòðèãîâàë. Êàê-íèòü çàãëÿíó â Ìàýñòðî, ïîùóïàþ. À òåñíî ñ ýòîé ãèòàðîé, ÿ äóìàþ, ìàëî êòî òóò îáùàëñÿ. ß äàæå óâåðåí â ýòîì. | |
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No use for a signature
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Òåìà: Re: Epiphone Zakk Wylde signature Les Paul Custom ?
Âðåìÿ: 13.03.2006 05:40 |
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Êóïè Òîêàé èëè Ãðåêî, è åù¸ äåíüãè îñòàíóòñÿ.
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Òåìà: Re: Epiphone Zakk Wylde signature Les Paul Custom ?
Âðåìÿ: 13.03.2006 06:52 |
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Ìîñêâà bass 
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Ó Zakk Wayld êó÷à èìåíûõ ãèòàð. È îðèãèíàëà êàê òàêîâî-áû ÍÅÒ! Äàæå ó Wayld'a... ß äóìàþ ÷òî ñòîèò ñíà÷àëà ïîñëóøàòü íàñòîÿùèé àìåðåêàíñêèé epiphone ïðåæäå ÷åì ðóãàòü åãî. Ìîÿ ïðèÿòåëü èãðàë íà èìåíîì Gibson of Zakk Waylde, ãîâîðèò òÿæåëûé! Âûáèðàòü òåáå-ñòîèò èëè íåò. Íàäî íàéòè íàñòîÿùèé ýòîò Epiphone è ïîñëóøàòü, åñëè ïîíðàâèòüñÿ òî ÿ ñ÷èòàþ îíî òîãî ñòîèò. |
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Âñ¸ óìåþò Ìèøêè Ãàìè, äàæå êàêàòü ââåðõ íîãàìè ©
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Òåìà: Re: Epiphone Zakk Wylde signature Les Paul Custom ?
Âðåìÿ: 13.03.2006 10:18 |
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Send_Q Èíòåðåñíî, ãäå æ åãî âçÿòü "íàñòîÿùèé àìåðåêàíñêèé epiphone"??? 
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Òåìà: Re: Epiphone Zakk Wylde signature Les Paul Custom ?
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Send_Q àìåðåêàíñêèé epiphone - ýòî ôàíòàñòèêà... 
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Òåìà: Re: Epiphone Zakk Wylde signature Les Paul Custom ?
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òîëüêî íå äëÿ ãèòàðèñòîâ | |
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Âñ¸ óìåþò Ìèøêè Ãàìè, äàæå êàêàòü ââåðõ íîãàìè ©
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Òåìà: Re: Epiphone Zakk Wylde signature Les Paul Custom ?
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Ìîñêâà bass
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ïðèáëèçèòåëüíî â Ëîñ-Àíäæèëåñå íà óëèöå Black Label Socuity^^ | |
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Âñ¸ óìåþò Ìèøêè Ãàìè, äàæå êàêàòü ââåðõ íîãàìè ©
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Òåìà: Re: Epiphone Zakk Wylde signature Les Paul Custom ?
Âðåìÿ: 13.03.2006 11:02 |
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Send_Q ïîó÷è ìàò÷àñòü, ãèòàðèñò ))) èç àìåðèêàíñêèõ Epi ñåé÷àñ ñóùåñòâóþò äâå ïîëóàêóñòèêè äà Òåêñàí Ìàêêàðòíèåâñêèé ))) Âñå àìåðèêàíñêèå ìîäåëè Epi, ñóùåñòâîâàâøèå â èñòîðèè ïîñëå ïîêóïêè èõ Gibson, ïî ïàëüöàì ìîæíî ïåðåñ÷èòàòü. |
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