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Òåìà: Fender Blues Junior vs. Laney VC15
Âðåìÿ: 02.09.2008 17:49 
Ìîñêâà


âîùåì äèëåììà, ìíå íðàâèòüñÿ Fender Blues Junior òâèäîâûé äèçàéíîì çâóêîì, ñäåëàí â ìåêñèêå ïðîäàþò çà 17êèëîðóáëåé.

ëýéíè ïðîäàþò çà 13ê ìàäå èí èíãëàíä

ÿ õç ÷î áðàòü, çâóê íóæåí óíèâåðñàëüíûé, ò.å. êðàñèâûé ÷èñòûé äëÿ áëþçà, è íîðìàëüíûé äèñòîðøí äëÿ ðîêà àëÿ 70-80-ûå.

÷î ïîñîâåòóåòå äðóãè? :)
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Òåìà: Re: Fender Blues Junior vs. Laney VC15
Âðåìÿ: 02.09.2008 18:11 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ãèòàðà

>çâóê íóæåí óíèâåðñàëüíûé, ò.å. êðàñèâûé ÷èñòûé äëÿ áëþçà, è íîðìàëüíûé äèñòîðøí äëÿ ðîêà àëÿ 70-80-ûå
ßñåí êðàñåí Laney VC15, èáî ó Blues Junior âîîáùå íåò ïåðåãðóçà, ïëþñ êî âñåìó ó Ëýíè çíà÷èòåëüíî áîëüøå âîçìîæíîñòåé íàñòðîéêè, äà è ðàçðûâ íèêîãäà íå ïîìåøàåò. Òàêæå ïî ìîåìó ìíåíèþ íà ìàëîé ãðîìêîñòè Ëýíè çâó÷èò ãîðàçäî âìåíÿåìåå Ôåíäåðà. Òîëüêî âîò ãäå òû íàøåë VC15 çà 13 êèëîðóáëåé? Èëè ðå÷ü èäåò î á/ó?
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Òåìà: Re: Fender Blues Junior vs. Laney VC15
Âðåìÿ: 02.09.2008 18:17 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ãèòàðà

Õîòÿ òóïëþ, ðå÷ü ÿâíî î á/ó àïïàðàòàõ :-)
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Òåìà: Re: Fender Blues Junior vs. Laney VC15
Âðåìÿ: 02.09.2008 18:47 
Ìîñêâà


ÁÅËÛÉ_ÊÎÒ, êàíåøí î á/ó :) íîâûé áëþç þíèîð ñòîèò ïîä 30ê ýòîø ãðàáåøø!!! :idea2:
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Òåìà: Re: Fender Blues Junior vs. Laney VC15
Âðåìÿ: 02.09.2008 20:19 
Ëåíèíãðàä
ãèòàðà

Âðàêè, ó Ôåäè Áëþç Äæóíèîð åñòü ïåðåãðóç.
ß îòâå÷àþ, èáî ýòî ìîé êîíöåðíòûé àïïàðàò.
Òàì òîëüêî îäèí êàíàë, íî åñòü ðåæèì FAT. Ñ ãèòàðîé ñ ìîùíûì âûõëîïîì çâó÷èò ñëåãêà ïîõîæå íà ïëåêñè-ãîëîâó. Îäíàêî äëÿ ýòîãî ãðîìêîñòü ïðèäåòñÿ âûêðó÷èâàòü íà ñìåðòü âñåìó æèâîìó :)
ß ãðåþ ÷èñòûé êàíàë Ìàðøàëëîâñêèì Ãîâíåðîì ñ ãåéíîì êîìáà íà 6 (èç 12), çâó÷èò âîñõèòèòåëüíî.
Êóïèë ñëåãêà á.ó. (åùå íà ãàðàíòèè) ïîëòîðà ãîäà íàçàä â Ìîñêâå çà 16.

Êîãäà çàìîðà÷èâàëñÿ ïîèñêîì ñåáå ëàìïîâîãî êîìáà äëÿ ðàáîòû, ëåíüêó åñòåñòâåííî òîæå ñìîòðåë è ñëóøàë. Íå òî. Äåéñòâèòåëüíî, îí çëåå ïî âñòîåííîìó ãåéíó; íî ôåäèíîãî ñòåêëà è - ãëàâíîå - ôèðìåííîãî ïðóæèííîãî ðåâåðà îò íåãî íå äîáèòüñÿ.
Rock'n'roll is never too loud
https://www.instagram.com/dr_perezz/
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Òåìà: Re: Fender Blues Junior vs. Laney VC15
Âðåìÿ: 02.09.2008 21:16 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ãèòàðà

>íî ôåäèíîãî ñòåêëà è - ãëàâíîå - ôèðìåííîãî ïðóæèííîãî ðåâåðà îò íåãî íå äîáèòüñÿ
Ïîíÿòíîå äåëî, îò Ìàðøàëëà åãî òîæå íå äîáèòüñÿ, êñòàòè ñêàçàòü :-)
LC15, êñòàòè, áîëåå ñòåêëÿííûé, äîâîëüíî áëèçîê ê Ôåíäåðó, à âîò VC15 áîëåå ìÿãêèé, áëþçîâûé.
Âîáùåì äîâîëüíî ñëîæíî ñêàçàòü êàêîé èç ñàáæåâûõ àïïàðàòîâ ëó÷øå, îáà õîðîøè, íî êàæäûé ïî-ñâîåìó. ß âûáðàë VC15 ïî ïðè÷èíå áîëüøåé óíèâåðñàëüíîñòè))
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Òåìà: Re: Fender Blues Junior vs. Laney VC15
Âðåìÿ: 02.09.2008 23:31 
Ìîñêâà


âûáîð êîìáàðÿ - ýòî æîïà...
íó êîðî÷ èõ íàäî ñëóøàòü è âûáèðàòü ñàìîìó... ïîñêîëüêó è fender è laney ïèâäàòûå ôèðìû..

ñàì þçàþ blues junior tweed...
ïèñäàòûé êîìá .... õåíäðèñ â ãðîáó ïåðåâåðíóëñÿ åñëèá óñëûøàë...
Åñòü ìèíóñ :idea2: ÷òîáû áûëî êðóòî - íàäî èãðàòü ãðîìêî :idea2:
à ãðîìêî ýòî äàæå ïèñäàòî, íî ñîñåäè òàê íå ñ÷èòàþò...

êñòàòè êîìáèê "òåïëûé" ïî çâóêó... è ÿðêîãî "ñòåêëà" áåç äîïîëíèòåëüíûõ ïðèáëóä íå ïîëó÷èòü.. :idea2:

:)
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Òåìà: Re: Fender Blues Junior vs. Laney VC15
Âðåìÿ: 03.09.2008 00:10 
Ìîñêâà


ïàñèáà ôñåì :) âèäèìî ïðèäåöî ñëóøàòü ïîî÷åðåäè àïïàðàòû :fan:
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Òåìà: Re: Fender Blues Junior vs. Laney VC15
Âðåìÿ: 03.09.2008 18:58 
The
Fuzz

Fender ãðîì÷å, Laney ëó÷øå :)
ê òîìó æå ó Laney åñòü ðàçðûâ
The RAT.The last fuzz you will ever need!
No amount of talk on a forum will give you as much information as 10 seconds plugged in.
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Òåìà: Re: Fender Blues Junior vs. Laney VC15
Âðåìÿ: 03.09.2008 23:04 
Ìîñêâà


ïî÷èòàë îòçûâû îá îáîèõ àïïàðàòàõ íà õàðìîíèöåíòðàë.êîì è âûâîä ïîõîæå â ïîëüçó ôåíäåðà îòíîñèòåëüíî íàäåæíîñòè, èáî â ëýéíè âñå âðåìÿ ïåðåãðåâàëàñü ó ìíîãèõ êàêàÿòà ôèãîâèíà è îí ïåðåñòàâàë ðàáîòàòü :idea2:
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Òåìà: Re: Fender Blues Junior vs. Laney VC15
Âðåìÿ: 03.09.2008 23:15 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ãèòàðà

>â ëýéíè âñå âðåìÿ ïåðåãðåâàëàñü ó ìíîãèõ êàêàÿòà ôèãîâèíà è îí ïåðåñòàâàë ðàáîòàòü
Íå çíàþ, ìîåìó óæå áîëüøå ãîäà, íî íè÷åãî íå ïåðåãðåâàåòñÿ è âñå ðàáîòàåò :4:
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Òåìà: Re: Fender Blues Junior vs. Laney VC15
Âðåìÿ: 03.09.2008 23:32 
Ìîñêâà


ÁÅËÛÉ_ÊÎÒ, ìîøò ïîâåçëî? :)
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Òåìà: Re: Fender Blues Junior vs. Laney VC15
Âðåìÿ: 03.09.2008 23:52 
Carvin CT6M,
Ibanez JEM77, Jackson Soloist,

>Fender ãðîì÷å, Laney ëó÷øå
>ê òîìó æå ó Laney åñòü ðàçðûâ

À ðàçðûâ - ýòî íå ÌÀËÎ-Î-Î !!! :dont:
Íåò ïëîõèõ èíñòðóìåíòîâ, åñòü ïàðíè - ñ ðóêàìè èç æîïû!
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Òåìà: Re: Fender Blues Junior vs. Laney VC15
Âðåìÿ: 04.09.2008 00:20 
Ìîñêâà


êàðî÷å çàâòðà ïîñëóøàþ îáà êîìáèêà è ðåøó ÷î áðàòü, íàêîíåö òî çàêîí÷èöà ýòà ýïîïåÿ ñ ïîäáîðîì êîìáà. :idea2:
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Òåìà: Re: Fender Blues Junior vs. Laney VC15
Âðåìÿ: 04.09.2008 01:34 
HIMKI
Tele,Strat'û&LP

äà êàê íè ïðèñêîðáíî íî âêóñíîñòè òèïà ðàçðûâà ó ëàìïîâûõ
â îíîâíîì ñ 30 âò íà÷èíàþòñÿ,
à â ìîåì êðýéòå åùå àêðîìå ðàçðûâà è ïðóæ.ðåâåðà åñòü ïðåçåíñ è ìèä áóñò, î÷åíü ïîëåçíûå ôè÷è, à áóñò åùå è ñ ôóòñâè÷à ìîæíî 2-îé êíîïêîé âêëþ÷àòü, à ïåðâîé ïåðåêëþ÷àòü êàíàëû.....
è ôóò ñîáñòâåííî â êîìïëåêòå,
íî 30âò - çâåðü êîíå÷íî â õàòå..
Moon Strat+Bacchus BLC-57+BTE-54V+Greco SE-600'79+ELEVEN RACK+CRATE V3112T
òåïåðü è Ibanez
Óìíûé ó÷èòñÿ íà ÷óæèõ îøèáêàõ,à äóðàê íà ñâîèõ.(Áóääà)
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Òåìà: Re: Fender Blues Junior vs. Electro-Harmonix English Muff`n
Âðåìÿ: 04.09.2008 10:17 
The
Fuzz

Ðàçðûâ ýòî êîíå÷íî êëåâàÿ äîïîëíèòåëüíàÿ îïöèÿ, íî ìíå áûâàåò
ïðîñòî äîñòàòî÷íî îäíîãî ðåâåðà â óñèëêå. Áûâàåò, ÷òî âîîáùå
ïîõ.Ãëàâíîå ïðàâèëüíûé çâóê â óñèëêå.
Íûíåøíèå ñòàðèêè â 60-70-õ âîîáùå ìîíóìåíòàëüíûå âåùè ñîçäà-âàëè, ïðè îáñóòñòâèè ðàçðûâîâ\\ðåâåðîâ â àïïàðàòå è íå ïàðèëèñü.

Ó ìåíÿ áûë Laney VC15 - âñå áûëî íîðìàëüíî. Òåïåðü ó òîâàðèùà-
âñå ðàáîòàåò. Âñïîìèíàþ ñ òåïëîòîé.
Êñòàòè, Fender Pro Jr ( íå ïåðèçäàíèå ) ãîðàçäî ëó÷øå ïî çâóêó Blues, íåñìîòðÿ ó ïîñëåäíåãî êó÷è ðó÷åê.
The RAT.The last fuzz you will ever need!
No amount of talk on a forum will give you as much information as 10 seconds plugged in.
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Òåìà: Re: Fender Blues Junior vs. Laney VC15
Âðåìÿ: 04.09.2008 11:12 
Ëåíèíãðàä
ãèòàðà

Êàê ïðî äæóíèîð ìîæåò áûòü êðó÷å áëþç äæóíèîðà, åñëè ó ïðî äèíàìèê - 10 äþéìîâ, à ó áëþçà - 12 äþéìîâ? :ouch:
Rock'n'roll is never too loud
https://www.instagram.com/dr_perezz/
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Òåìà: Re: Fender Blues Junior vs. Laney VC15
Âðåìÿ: 04.09.2008 16:44 
The
Fuzz

Angry_Pepper
Ïî ìíå ïîíÿòèå êðó÷å íå ñâÿçàíî ñ ðàçìåðîì äèíàìèêà- íà êîíöåðòå è íà çàïèñè çâóê âñå-ðàâíî ñíèìàåòñÿ ìèêðîôîíîì.
Ñàìà ñòðóêòóðà çâóêà ó Fender Pro Jr áîëåå ïðàâèëüíàÿ è êëàññè÷åñêàÿ, ïîýòîìó â ñâîå âðåìÿ îòäàë åìó ïðåäïî÷òåíèå.
Íó ìîè ñëîâà ìîæåøü íå âîñïðèíèìàòü.

... â ñòóäèè, ÿ íàõîæó, áîëåå ìàëåíüêèå äèíàìèêè è êàáèíåòû áîëåå ïîäõîäÿùèìè.  êîíöå êîíöîâ, ïðîñòàÿ ôèçèêà ãîâîðèò íàì, ÷òî ÷åì ìåíüøå äèíàìèê, òåì áîëüøå åãî ñïåêòðà íàõîäèòñÿ òîé òî÷êå, â êîòîðîé çâóê ñíèìàåòñÿ ìèêðîôîíîì.  áîëüøèíñòâå ãèòàðíûõ òðåêîâ íà Honkin’ on Bobo ÿ èñïîëüçîâàë ìàëåíüêèå óñèëèòåëè Epiphone è Fender Champion.
Joe Perry
The RAT.The last fuzz you will ever need!
No amount of talk on a forum will give you as much information as 10 seconds plugged in.
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Òåìà: Re: Fender Blues Junior vs. Laney VC15
Âðåìÿ: 05.09.2008 10:01 
Ëåíèíãðàä
ãèòàðà

Äà, íî Åâïàòèþ êîìá íóæåí, ÿ òàê ïîíÿë, íå òîëüêî äëÿ çàïèñè â òåïëè÷íûõ óñëîâèÿõ, íî è äëÿ êîíöåðòèðîâàíèÿ. À â òàêîì ñëó÷àå ÎÄÈÍ 12-äþéìîâûé äèíàìèê èìååò ïðåèìóùåñòâî ïåðåä ÎÄÍÈÌ 10-äþéìîâûì â ïëàíå çâóêîâîãî äàâëåíèÿ è êà÷åñòâà ïåðåäà÷è ÷àñòîò ïî âñåìó ñïåêòðó.
Joe Perry - êòî åãî çíàåò, ìîæåò ïðèáåäíÿåòñÿ :) Åìó ïîçâîëèòåëüíî :)
Rock'n'roll is never too loud
https://www.instagram.com/dr_perezz/
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Òåìà: Re: Fender Blues Junior vs. Laney VC15
Âðåìÿ: 05.09.2008 11:22 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ãèòàðà

>âîùåì äèëåììà, ìíå íðàâèòüñÿ Fender Blues Junior òâèäîâûé äèçàéíîì çâóêîì, ñäåëàí â ìåêñèêå ïðîäàþò çà 17êèëîðóáëåé.
>ëýéíè ïðîäàþò çà 13ê ìàäå èí èíãëàíä
>ÿ õç ÷î áðàòü, çâóê íóæåí óíèâåðñàëüíûé, ò.å. êðàñèâûé ÷èñòûé äëÿ áëþçà, è íîðìàëüíûé äèñòîðøí äëÿ ðîêà àëÿ 70-80-ûå.
>÷î ïîñîâåòóåòå äðóãè?

Angry_Pepper, ïåðå÷èòàâ ïåðâûé ïîñò ëè÷íî ÿ íå ñîâñåì ïîíÿë äëÿ êàêèõ êîíêðåòíî óñëîâèé Åâïàòèé âûáèðàåò êîìá, íî ñóäÿ ïî òîìó ÷òî îáà ðàññìàòðèâàåìûõ âàðèàíòà èìåþò ìîùíîñòü 15 Âàòò, ñìåþ ïðåäïîëîæèòü ÷òî ðå÷ü èäåò î êîìáèêå äëÿ äîìà. Ïî êðàéíåé ìåðå äëÿ ðåï/êîíöåðòîâ ïðè òàêîì áþäæåòå ÿ áû ðàññìàòðèâàë Laney LC30/Laney LC50 èëè Peavey Classic 30/Peavey Classic 50 :4:
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Òåìà: Re: Fender Blues Junior vs. Laney VC15
Âðåìÿ: 05.09.2008 18:56 
Ìîñêâà


âñå óñïîêîéòåñü :) êóïèë áëþç äæóíèîð :) è ýòî ïåçäàòî, äàæå î÷åíü. Íóæåí
êàê äîìàøíèé ( õîòÿ îðåò îí ïðîñòî ####åöêè ãðîìêî, ìàñòåð ãðîìêîñòü
ñïàñàåò) âîùåì ÿ äîâîëåí, à ýòî ãëàâíîå :idea2:
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Òåìà: Re: Fender Blues Junior vs. Laney VC15
Âðåìÿ: 05.09.2008 19:00 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
ãèòàðà

ìîæíî íà÷èíàòü ïîçäðàâëÿòü :pink_jump:

çû. åðàñîô ðóëèò :7:
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Òåìà: Re: Fender Blues Junior vs. Laney VC15
Âðåìÿ: 05.09.2008 19:48 
Ìîñêâà


>âñå óñïîêîéòåñü êóïèë áëþç äæóíèîð è ýòî ïåçäàòî, äàæå î÷åíü. Íóæåí
>êàê äîìàøíèé ( õîòÿ îðåò îí ïðîñòî ####åöêè ãðîìêî, ìàñòåð ãðîìêîñòü
>ñïàñàåò) âîùåì ÿ äîâîëåí, à ýòî ãëàâíîå

Ñïñ))
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Òåìà: Re: Fender Blues Junior vs. Laney VC15
Âðåìÿ: 05.09.2008 23:21 
Ìîñêâà
Ýëåêòðîãèòàðà

äðÿìç!
Óðîêè èãðû íà ýëåêòðîãèòàðå è àêóñòè÷åñêîé ãèòàðå â Ìîñêâå
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Òåìà: Re: Fender Blues Junior vs. Laney VC15
Âðåìÿ: 06.09.2008 01:21 
Ëåíèíãðàä
ãèòàðà

Íó ïîçäðàâëÿþ! Òåïåðü êîëëåãà :)
Äà, áóäó â Ìîñêâå - ñ òåáÿ ïèâî çà ñîâåò :)
Rock'n'roll is never too loud
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Òåìà: Re: Fender Blues Junior vs. Laney VC15
Âðåìÿ: 06.09.2008 17:24 
Ìîñêâà


Angry_Pepper, íèâàïðîñ! :idea2:
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Òåìà: Re: Fender Blues Junior vs. Laney VC15
Âðåìÿ: 08.09.2008 12:15 
Ìîñêâà
Fender Duo-Sonic 1959 + VOX AC30TB

Ïîçäðàâëÿþ! :)
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Òåìà: Re: Fender Blues Junior vs. Laney VC15
Âðåìÿ: 08.09.2008 14:53 
Ìîñêâà


ìíîãî ïîçäðàâëåíèé

ôåíäåð òðó
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Òåìà: Re: Fender Blues Junior vs. Laney VC15
Âðåìÿ: 08.09.2008 15:21 
Ìîñêâà


ñïàñèáî âñåì :) ñåãîäíÿ âûêðóòèë åãî íà íîðì ãðîìêîñòü äîìà...çâåååðèùå, à
çâóê ïðîñòî êëàññ
 ýòîò ôîðóì ìîãóò ïèñàòü òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûå ïîëüçîâàòåëè!