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Ãèòàðíûå ýôôåêòû è êîìáèêè: îáñóæäåíèå ãèòàðíîãî îáîðóäîâàíèÿ

Çàäàòü íîâóþ òåìó
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ïðîñòî êë¸âûå ïàëêè

Ñîáñòâåííî, åñòü òðè êàíäèäàòà (ïðè÷èíà - îãðàíè÷åííûé áþäæåò â 3,5 òûð): Boss PS-3, Boss DD-3 è Ibanez AD-9.
Boss DD-3 äîñòàòî÷íî ÷àñòî çàìå÷åí íà ôîòî ïåäàëáîðäîâ,
pitch-shifter PS-5 Âàé ïîëüçóåò, ïîñëåäíèé â ïðåäñòàâëåíèè òîæå ìàëî íóæäàåòñÿ.
Êòî ÷¸ ñêàæåò ïî ñóùåñòâó, ðàçóìååòñÿ :)) ???
American Standard Stratocaster®, Maple Fretboard, Sienna Sunburst,2001ã; rack: ADA MP-1; Roland GP-100; Marshall EL84 2020; TerraTec Axon AX 100 Mk II
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Âðåìÿ: 20.05.2006 00:04 
Yavt



Ïî ìíå Ibanez DE 7 :super:
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Âðåìÿ: 20.05.2006 03:40 
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Ñîâåòóþ ïîñëóøàòü Onerr DGD-2
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Âðåìÿ: 20.05.2006 09:25 
ÌÎÑÊÂÀ
ãèòàðà

ôîòî Onerr DGD-2:
http://www.guitarplayer.com/pop-up.asp?storycode=11834&seq=1&type=P
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Âðåìÿ: 20.05.2006 09:35 
ÌÎÑÊÂÀ
ãèòàðà

íà îäíîì ñàéòå ïèøóò:
"Digital Delay DGD-2 — ïðîôåññèîíàëüíàÿ 24-áèòíàÿ öèôðîâàÿ çàäåðæêà, êîòîðàÿ äàåò ìóçûêàíòàì ìíîãî âîçìîæíîñòåé êàê äëÿ ðàáîòû â ñòóäèè, òàê è äëÿ æèâûõ âûñòóïëåíèé. Ïåäàëü DGD-2 ïîäîéäåò äëÿ ìíîãèõ ìóçûêàëüíûõ èíñòðóìåíòîâ, âðåìÿ çàäåðæêè îò 10 äî 1200 ìñ. Äîïîëíèòåëüíàÿ ôóíêöèÿ Hold ïîçâîëÿåò çàïèñàòü íåáîëüøèå ôðàãìåíòû äî 1250 ìñ, ïîñëå ÷åãî ìîæíî èãðàòü ñ çàïèñàííûì çâóêîì.

Ãëàâíîé îñîáåííîñòüþ ïåäàëè ÿâëÿåòñÿ òî, ÷òî ãèòàðèñò ìîæåò óñòàíàâëèâàòü òåìï äåëåÿ â ðåàëüíîì âðåìåíè. Äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû èìåòü âîçìîæíîñòü ðåãóëèðîâàòü âðåìåíåì çàäåðæêè íåîáõîäèìî óñòàíîâèòü ïåðåêëþ÷àòåëü â ïîëîæåíèå Hold. Ïðè ýòîì ñêîðîñòü íàæàòèÿ íà ïåäàëü áóäåò ñîîòâåòñòâîâàòü ÷àñòîòå ïîâòîðåíèé äåëåÿ."
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Âðåìÿ: 20.05.2006 12:06 
balakovo
ïðîñòî êë¸âûå ïàëêè

Âîò ñòðàíè÷êó íàðûë
http://www.moline.ru/equip/instr/pedals/onerr.php
òàì åñòü åùå îäíà èíòåðåñíàÿ âåùèöà -
Ïåäàëü Digital Reverb DGR 1 (135$) ïðîèçâîäèò ðåâåðáåðàöèþ (âîñåìü àëãîðèòìîâ), õîðóñ è êîìáèíàöèþ ðåâåðáåðàöèè è õîðóñà. Ýôôåêò öèôðîâîé, àíàëîãî-öèôðîâûå è öèôðî-àíàëîãîâûå ïðåîáðàçîâàòåëè 24-ðàçðÿäíûå. Åñòü âõîä è ñòåðåîïàðà âûõîäîâ íà äæåêàõ, ïåäàëüíûé ïåðåêëþ÷àòåëü è ñâåòîäèîäíûé èíäèêàòîð îáõîäà ýôôåêòà, ðåãóëÿòîð áàëàíñà èñõîäíîãî ñèãíàëà è ýôôåêòà, ðó÷êà-ñåëåêòîð ýôôåêòà, îäíîñèìâîëüíûé ñâåòîäèîäíûé äèñïëåé, ðàçúåì äëÿ ïîäêëþ÷åíèÿ îïöèîíàëüíîãî ïåäàëüíîãî ïåðåêëþ÷àòåëÿ (ïîçâîëÿåò îñóùåñòâëÿòü âûáîð ýôôåêòà). Ìàññà ïåäàëè 640 ã.
Èíòåðåñíà òåì, ÷òî äîïóñêàåò êîìáèíàöèè õîðóñà è ðåâåðà ...
Êòî ñëûøàë???
American Standard Stratocaster®, Maple Fretboard, Sienna Sunburst,2001ã; rack: ADA MP-1; Roland GP-100; Marshall EL84 2020; TerraTec Axon AX 100 Mk II
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Òåìà: Re: Âûáîð ïåäàëüêè "çàäåðæêè"
Âðåìÿ: 21.05.2006 18:19 
Ìîñêâà


ß áû âçÿë DD-3
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Òåìà: Re: Âûáîð ïåäàëüêè "çàäåðæêè"
Âðåìÿ: 23.05.2006 13:23 
Ìîñêâà
Bartlett

à ÿ óæå âçÿë Deluxe memory man è íå ïàðþñü :)
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Âðåìÿ: 23.05.2006 15:57 
Òîðòóãà
Áóòûëêà Ðîìà

Îïðîñ äëÿ æåíñêîãî ïîëà :idea2:
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Âðåìÿ: 23.05.2006 16:48 



ää-3
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Âðåìÿ: 23.05.2006 19:55 



À ÿ âçÿë Boss DD-2 (Japan). È íå ïàðþñü
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Âðåìÿ: 23.05.2006 20:55 



äîðîãî âçÿë?
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Âðåìÿ: 24.05.2006 13:55 
North-West
Six Dirty Strings

À êàêàÿ y Deluxe Memory Màn çàäåðæêà??
:pr:
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Âðåìÿ: 24.05.2006 16:49 
North-West
Six Dirty Strings

×å? Íèêòî íå â êóðñå?? Íó õîòü ïðèìåðíî! :cry:
:pr:
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Âðåìÿ: 24.05.2006 17:12 
Ìîñêâà
Îäíàêî, ãèòàðû.

Ibanez AD-9 îäíîçíà÷íà! :cowboy:
artists@futuremusicprod.com - A&R, âàøè çàïèñè îáÿçàòåëüíî ïðîñëóøàþò.
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Òåìà: Re: Âûáîð ïåäàëüêè "çàäåðæêè"
Âðåìÿ: 24.05.2006 17:52 
Ìîñêâà
Bartlett

Butch

550 ìñ âñåãî, çàòî àíàëîã!
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Âðåìÿ: 24.05.2006 20:56 



boss dd-2 çà 120$
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Âðåìÿ: 25.05.2006 04:30 

ÌÌ JP6

öåíà ýòèõ Îíåðð âñ¸ çà íèõ ãîâîðèò..
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À òû ñàì ïîñëóøàé. :)
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Âðåìÿ: 27.05.2006 15:31 
North-West
Six Dirty Strings

ÏÈÂÎ, ñïàñèáî.

Äóìàþ âîò çàêàçàòü ñåáå ýòîò EHX ó ìàñòåðà..
:pr:
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Âðåìÿ: 02.06.2006 19:10 



Boss DD-2 ñ ebay...100-120 áàêñîâ. Ýòî áîëåå êà÷åñòâåííàÿ âåðñèÿ DD-3...èëè Maxon/Ibanez AD-9 ñ ebay.
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Âðåìÿ: 04.06.2006 22:35 



to Lex

Ó Onerr DGD-2 áàéïàñ ÷èñòûé?
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Òåìà: Re: Âûáîð ïåäàëüêè "çàäåðæêè"
Âðåìÿ: 05.06.2006 22:56 
Ìîñêâà
Kramer Glide, Roland JP-8000

Êóïèë BOSS DD-2 çà 90$.
 òî âðåìÿ êàê òåíü ÑÑÑÐ ñãóñòèëàñü íàä Åâðîïîé, 12 ñòðàí ïî îáå ñòîðîíû Àòëàíòèêè îáúåäèíèëèñü äëÿ çàùèòû ñâîåé áåçîïàñíîñòè è ãëàâíûõ öåííîñòåé: ñâîáîäû, äåìîêðàòèè, ïðàâ ÷åëîâåêà è ãëàâåíñòâà çàêîíà.
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Âðåìÿ: 05.06.2006 23:26 



DOD DFX 94 Êàê îíà ?Ïðåäëàãàþò âçÿòü íå âçÿòü?
È ñèëüíî ëè ïëîõà ïåäàëüêà îò Yersov èëè Delay processor ó SMB
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Òåìà: Re: Âûáîð ïåäàëüêè "çàäåðæêè"
Âðåìÿ: 06.06.2006 13:02 
Ìîñêâà
Bartlett

dd-2 è dd-3 àáñîëþòíî îäèíàêîâûå ïðèáîðû - ó÷èòå ìàò÷àñòü. dd-3 äåøåâëå, ïîòîìó ÷òî ïîñëå ñíèæåíèÿ ñòîèìîñòè ìèêðîñõåì ñíèçèëàñü ñòîèìîñòü äèëååâ , ïî ìàðêåòèíãîâûì ñîîáðàæåíèÿì áîññ ïåðåèìåíîâàë dd-2 â dd-3 è ñòàë ïðîäàâàòü ïî ìåíüøåé öåíå :idea2:
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Âðåìÿ: 06.06.2006 13:03 
Ìîñêâà
Bartlett

Butch
íàñ÷åò çàêàçà ó ìàñòåðà... âî-ïåðâûõ, ìèêðîñõåìû è äåòàëè íóæíî ïîäáèðàòü .âî-âòîðûõ, ãäå îí âîçüìåò ÍÎÐÌÀËÜÍÓÞ ñõåìó - òî ÷òî â èíòåå - ãàâíî, ñ îøèáêàìè, ÷àñòî ïðåäíàìåðåííûìè!
â èòîãå äóìàþ, âðÿäëè ïîëó÷èòñÿ íàìíîãî äåøåâëå. õîòÿ, åñëè òû çíàêîì ñ êàêèì-òî îñîáåííûì êóëèáèíûì...
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Âðåìÿ: 23.06.2006 15:17 
Novosibirsk


ó "íîðìàëüíûõ" ìàñòåðîâ ñõåìû ñîîòâåòñòâóþùèå è "ìèêðîñõåìû è äåòàëè íóæíî ïîäáèðàòü..." ñ ýòèì òîæå âñå ïðàâèëüíî.
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Âðåìÿ: 28.06.2006 03:00 



ïèâî,

òû ãäå ýòó õðåíü ïðî÷èòàë??? dd-2 (à òàêæå ðàííèå Made In Japan DD3) âûïóñêàëèñü â ÿïîíèè ñ ÷èïàìè, êîòîðîûå Roland èñïîëüçîâàë â ñâîèõ ðåêîâûõ äèëåÿõ. Ïîòîì îíè óäåøåâèëè ñòîèìîñòü ýôôåêòà ñìåíèâ ýòè ÷èïû íà áîëåå äåøåâûå, à ïîòîì ïåðåíåñëè ïðîèçâîäñòâî íà òàéâàíü. èíòåðåñíî ïî÷åìó Pete Cornish èñïîëüçóåò èìåííî DD-2 äëÿ ñâîåãî TES Delay, êîòîðûì, êñòàòè ïîëüçóåòñÿ Ãèëìîð? íàâåðíîå îí íå çíàë òî, ÷òî çíàåò ÏÈÂÎ! âîò ïî÷èòàé...ÿ äóìàþ Analog Mike çíàåò îá ýôôåêòàõ áîëüøå ÷åì òû...èìõî. "ó÷è ìàò÷àñòü"

http://analogman.com/dd5.htm

Which sounds better, a DD3, DD5, or DD6?

People seem to like the DD2 and DD3 a lot too, they were the 1st digital delay offered in pedal form so it's an old school sort of tone. The DD2 and older DD3 pedals used an awesome chip from the high end Roland rack delay units, they sound excellent- so good that Pete Cornish uses them in his mega dollar custom units. Here is a picture of the old style board, showing the huge chip.

http://analogman.com/graphics/dd3bigchip.jpg

The current DD3 uses a newer delay chip, smaller square version, and may not sound QUITE as good as the older ones. The older ones had a large chip inside with 2 rows of legs, it goes all the way across the circuit board! The newer ones have a newfangled square delay chip with surface mounted legs on all four sides.
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Âðåìÿ: 28.06.2006 16:39 
Äåí



À ÿ âçÿë SMB Delay Processor è íå ïàðþñü)))
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Òåìà: Re: Âûáîð ïåäàëüêè "çàäåðæêè"
Âðåìÿ: 29.06.2006 14:11 



ß âîò ÌÀðøàëîâñêèé êóïèë, âïîëíå äåøåâî è ôóíêöèîíàëüíî...Ãëàâíîå çâóê íå ïîðòèò è áàéïàññ õîðîøèé....
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Òåìà: Re: Âûáîð ïåäàëüêè "çàäåðæêè"
Âðåìÿ: 29.06.2006 17:19 



âñå ïîçíàåòñÿ â ñðàâíåíèè...ÿ äóìàþ DD-2 ãîðàçäî ëó÷øå Marshall è SMB Delay Processor...à íå ïàðèòüñÿ ìîæíî ñ ÷åì óãîäíî.
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Âðåìÿ: 29.06.2006 17:25 
guest



ÿ âîò îíåðð õî÷ó âçÿòü. êòî-íèòü çíàåò ïðî áàéïàñ ó íèõ? à êàêèå åù¸ ðåâåðû ïåäàëüíûå äåëàþò ìèêñ èç íåîáðàáîòàííîãî è îáðàáîòàííîãî (êàê ó îíåðð)?
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Âðåìÿ: 04.07.2006 23:01 
balakovo
ïðîñòî êë¸âûå ïàëêè

ß ñ¸íÿ â Ñàìàðñêîì ÌÓÇòîðãå þçàë Marshall Ðåôëåêòîð - íè÷¸ òàê îêàçàëàñü æåëåçÿêà - 6 ïðåñåòîâ ðåãóëèðóåìûõ, â îáùåì õîðîøèé îáúåì. Äèëåÿ Ìàðøàëîâñêîãî íå îêàçàëîñü òàê, ÷òî ñðàâíèòü íå óäàëîñü, ïàðåí¸ê-ïðîäàâåö ñêàçàë, ÷òî Äèëåé åìó áîëüøå ïîíðàâèëñÿ. Áóäó êàðàóëèòü.
È SMB Delay Processor â "Àâðîðå" ñëóõàë -íå âîòêíóëî!! Êàê îáû÷íî - âñ¸ ïîíàâòûêàëè äî êó÷è è íè÷åãî äî êîíöà ïóòíî íå äîäåëàëè. Õîòÿ, ñïðàâåäëèâîñòè ðàäè, íå øóìèò îí.
American Standard Stratocaster®, Maple Fretboard, Sienna Sunburst,2001ã; rack: ADA MP-1; Roland GP-100; Marshall EL84 2020; TerraTec Axon AX 100 Mk II
 ýòîò ôîðóì ìîãóò ïèñàòü òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûå ïîëüçîâàòåëè!