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Âðåìÿ: 16.10.2014 17:50 



Ìû ïèñàëè î òîì, ÷òî äâà áðèòàíñêèõ æóðíàëà Guitar&Bass è Guitarist çàèíòåðåñîâàëèñü ïðîäóêöèåé ìàðêè YERASOV, ñäåëàëè íåñêîëüêî ðåâüþ.
À òåïåðü íåáîëüøîå ðåâüþ ñäåëàë è äæàçîâûé æóðíàë Jazzwise:

Yerasov GTA 15
Guitar Amplifier Ever fancied a tone machine pure and simple,where you can add your
effects pedals to taste? Well, this is exactly what the Russian-built Yerasov GTA15 offers:
a straightforward, no frills, no nonsense 15-watt Class A valve combo that will have
you searching for superlatives from the moment you pluck a note. This solid little 15”x15”x
8” combo with its steel mesh grille reminds me of that Russian built Fed film camera from the
1970s that was built like a tank, had slightly dubious interior mechanics but was fitted
with an Industar lens with a resolution that matched the very best money could buy. And like
the Fed, this Yerasov has been built to withstand the rigours of the road and comes fitted with
a 10” C10 Q35 Jensen speaker – as fitted to the 1960s Fenders.
But these days the Russians seem to build the business end like they do the shell, and in this
particular case the manufacturer has once again sourced top quality components. The GTA15 is loaded with two ECC83 pre-amp valves and two EL84 output valves. The control panel couldn’t be more straightforward with a quality French APEM on/off switch with red neon, two chicken head knobs, one for tone and one for volume, a line input and a guitar input.
Plugging in, we were treated to an amazingly clean, warm and rich sound with not a hint of hiss: this amp is super quiet. Turning up the volume knob not only slowly increased the power output, but also at around 10 smoothly moved the amp into a creamy overdrive –heaven! It’s difficult not to overstate the Yerasov’s credentials, but there are some nice finishing touches like the simple velcro pad to keep the plug in place on the back floor of the amp. And with a price tag of
around £320, this, as they say, is a no brainer.
For more info see www.yerasov.co.uk

Yerasov GTA 15

Ãèòàðíûé Óñèëèòåëü Ìå÷òû êàê áåçóïðå÷íûé è ïðîñòîé àïïàðàò, êóäà ìîæíî âêëþ÷àòü ïðèìî÷êè, ÷òîáû ñìàêîâàòü çâóê? Èìåííî ýòî ïðåäëàãàåò ðîññèéñêèé Yerasov GTA15: ïðîñòîé, áåç èçëèøåñòâ, áåç ïîäâîõîâ 15-âàòòíûé ëàìïîâûé êîìáîóñèëèòåëü êëàññà À, êîòîðûé ïðèâåäåò âàñ â âîñòîðã, êàê òîëüêî âû òðîíåòå ñòðóíû. Ýòîò êðåïûø ðàçìåðîì 15x15x8 äþéìîâ ñî ñòàëüíîé ñåòêîé íàïîìíèë ìíå ðóññêèé ôîòîàïïàðàò ÔÝÄ 1970-õ ãîäîâ, ñäåëàííûé êàê òàíê, ñî÷åòàâøèé â ñåáå ñîìíèòåëüíóþ âíóòðåííþþ ìåõàíèêó è îáúåêòèâ Èíäóñòàð, îáëàäàâøèé íàèëó÷øèì ðàçðåøåíèåì, êîòîðîå ìîæíî áûëî êóïèòü çà òàêèå äåíüãè. Ïîäîáíî ÔÝÄó, ýòîò óñèëèòåëü Yerasov ñäåëàí òàê, ÷òîáû âûäåðæàòü ñóðîâûå äîðîæíûå èñïûòàíèÿ, è ïðè ýòîì îñíàùåí 10-äþéìîâûì äèíàìèêîì C10 Q35 Jensen — ïðèâåò îò óñèëèòåëåé Fender 1960-õ.
Îäíàêî òåïåðü ðóññêèå, ïîõîæå, äåëàþò íà÷èíêó íå õóæå îáåðòêè: â äàííîì ñëó÷àå ïðîèçâîäèòåëü ïðèìåíèë êîìïîíåíòû íàèâûñøåãî êà÷åñòâà.  GTA15 óñòàíîâëåíû äâå ëàìïû ECC83 â ïðåàìïå è äâå ëàìïû EL84 â âûõîäíîì êàñêàäå. Ïàíåëü óïðàâëåíèÿ — ïðîùå íåêóäà, âêëþ÷àåò â ñåáÿ êà÷åñòâåííûé ôðàíöóçñêèé òóìáëåð ïèòàíèÿ APEM, êðàñíûé èíäèêàòîð, äâà êëþâèêà äëÿ ðåãóëèðîâêè òåìáðà è ãðîìêîñòè, à òàêæå ëèíåéíûé è ãèòàðíûé âõîäû.
Âêëþ÷èâ êîìáèê, ìû ïîðàäîâàëèñü óäèâèòåëüíî ÷èñòîìó, òåïëîìó è íàñûùåííîìó çâóêó áåç íàìåêà íà øèïåíèå: ýòîò ñóïåðòèõèé óñèëèòåëü. Ïîâîðîò ðåãóëÿòîðà ãðîìêîñòè íå òîëüêî ïîñòåïåííî óñèëèâàåò âûõîäíîé ñèãíàë, íî áëèæå ê 10 ïëàâíî ïåðåâîäèò óñèëèòåëü â ñëèâî÷íûé ïåðåãðóç — ðàéñêîå íàñëàæäåíèå! Òðóäíî ïåðåîöåíèòü çàñëóãè óñèëèòåëÿ Yerasov, è ýòî áåç ó÷åòà òàêèõ ïðèÿòíûõ ìåëî÷åé, êàê îáû÷íàÿ ëèïó÷êà, êîòîðàÿ êðåïèò ñåòåâóþ âèëêó ê äíèùó óñèëèòåëÿ. Ïðè öåíå îêîëî £320 òóò, êàê ãîâîðèòñÿ, áåðè — íå äóìàé.


Äèçàéí GTA-15 äëÿ Åâðîïû óæå ñäåëàëè íîâûé. Íîâîå ëîãî, ðó÷êà ïåðåíîñêè è ìàòåðèàë Kayline(ÑØÀ).
Ïîñìîòðåòü è ñðàâíèòü ìîæíî íà www.yerasov.co.uk
À òåïåðü ýòîò äèçàéí áóäåò äîñòóïåí è â Ðîññèè ïîä èìåíåì GTA-15 special.
Âàøå ìíåíèå?
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Ìîñêâà
Çàìå÷àòåëüíî êàêàÿ ïðåëåñòüSpector ReBoop

>ñî÷åòàâøèé â ñåáå ñîìíèòåëüíóþ âíóòðåííþþ ìåõàíèêó è îáúåêòèâ Èíäóñòàð, îáëàäàâøèé íàèëó÷øèì ðàçðåøåíèåì
>>Ïîäîáíî ÔÝÄó, ýòîò óñèëèòåëü Yerasov
Yerasov , Àëåêñàíäð, ÿ áîëüøîé ïîêëîííèê ÷àñòè âàøåé ïðîäóêöèè,íî ýòî ñîìíèòåëüíàÿ ñòðî÷êà â ðåöåíçèè îá îáîðóäîâàíèè)))
Ïàðîëü îò ôëóäà â ìîåì ïðîôàéëå â ãðàôå i c q
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ãèòàðà

>íàïîìíèë ìíå ðóññêèé ôîòîàïïàðàò ÔÝÄ 1970-õ ãîäîâ, ñäåëàííûé êàê òàíê, ñî÷åòàâøèé â ñåáå ñîìíèòåëüíóþ âíóòðåííþþ ìåõàíèêó è îáúåêòèâ Èíäóñòàð

Âïîëíå ñïðàâåäëèâî - ÔÝÄ áûë âàðèàöèåé íà òåìó Leica, òîëüêî ñ ãîðàçäî áîëåå íèçêîé íàä¸æíîñòüþ è íåñðàâíèìî õóäøåé îïòèêîé (Èíäóñòàð).
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Ìîñêâà
Çàìå÷àòåëüíî êàêàÿ ïðåëåñòüSpector ReBoop

crowsgazer , äà. È ïðî ëàìïû è ïðî ôðàíöóçñêèé òóìáëåð, è ïðî îáåðòêó ñ íà÷èíêîé... Ñàìî ëèòåðàòóðíîå ñðàâíåíèå ÷åãî-òî \"ñî÷åòàþùåãî ñîìíèòåëüíóþ ñõåìîòåõíèêó...\" ñ òâîåé òåõíèêîé óæå âûçûâàåò ëè÷íî ó ìåíÿ íåäîóìåíèå.
Ïîíèìàþ ÷òî ïèñàëè äëÿ åâðîïåéöåâ, êîòîðûå ê ðóññêîé òåõíèêå ñòàðàþòñÿ íå ïîäõîäèòü è òàêîé ôðàçîé, âèäèìî, ïûòàëèñü \"çàìàíèòü\", íî ìåíÿ ïîêîðîáèëî.

Àõ äà, êîìáèê è âïðÿì îòëè÷íûé çà ñâîè äåíüãè.
Ïàðîëü îò ôëóäà â ìîåì ïðîôàéëå â ãðàôå i c q
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Áèãóä, â 1990ã ÿ ïðèìåðíî ìåñÿö ïðîâ¸ë â Àíãëèè è â êà÷åñòâå ïîäàðêîâ âîçèë òóäà áèíîêëü, ÷àñû Êîìàíäèðñêèå è êîíüÿê Àðìÿíñêèé 10*. Òàì ÿ õîäèë ïî ìàãàçèíàì è ïîíÿë, ÷òî àíàëîãè÷íîãî êà÷åñòâà òîâàðû òàì ñòîèëè â íåñêîëüêî ðàç äîðîæå äàæå â ïåðåñ÷¸òå íà ôóíòû. Òàê ÷òî íåìíîãî ïðèóâåëè÷èâàåòå...
ÔÝÄ, à çàòåì è Çåíèò-Å èíîñòðàíöû âåçëè èç Ðîññèè çà ìèëóþ äóøó...
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Äà, "êóðñ" ðóáëÿ áûë òàêîé ñòàáèëüíûé, ÷òî, íàïðèìåð, íà ÷àéíîé ëîæêå áûëî øòàìïîì âûäàâëåíî: Öåíà 2 êîï.:-)
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ïåðåâîä ñëåãêà êîðÿâûé. "ôîòîàïïàðàò áûë ñäåëàí êàê òàíê, è, íåñìîòðÿ íà íåñêîëüêî ñîìíèòåëüíóþ âíóòðåííþþ íà÷èíêó, êîìïëåêòîâàëñÿ îáúåêòèâîì èíäóñòàð, êîòîðûé îáëàäàë íàèëó÷øèì ðàçðåøåíèåì, êàêîå òîëüêî ìîæíî íàéòè çà ýòè äåíüãè"

íàä äèçàéíîì ñàéòà òîæå áû ïîðàáîòàòü, ñëèøêîì àñêåòè÷íî, â ñòèëå ãàðàæíûõ àìåðèêàíñêèõ êîíòîðîê. è ýòîò ëþáèìûé â ðîññèè "öâåò ìîðñêîé âîëíû" :oooi:
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ãèòàðà

>Áèãóä, â 1990ã ÿ ïðèìåðíî ìåñÿö ïðîâ¸ë â Àíãëèè è â êà÷åñòâå ïîäàðêîâ âîçèë òóäà áèíîêëü, ÷àñû Êîìàíäèðñêèå è êîíüÿê Àðìÿíñêèé 10*. Òàì ÿ õîäèë ïî ìàãàçèíàì è ïîíÿë, ÷òî àíàëîãè÷íîãî êà÷åñòâà òîâàðû òàì ñòîèëè â íåñêîëüêî ðàç äîðîæå äàæå â ïåðåñ÷¸òå íà ôóíòû. Òàê ÷òî íåìíîãî ïðèóâåëè÷èâàåòå...
>ÔÝÄ, à çàòåì è Çåíèò-Å èíîñòðàíöû âåçëè èç Ðîññèè çà ìèëóþ äóøó...

Åù¸ ìàòð¸øêè ñ Ãîðáà÷¸âûì è áàëàëàéêè íà óðà øëè.
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Íó êóïèëè ïîëîæèòåëüíûé îáçîð â áðèòàíñêîì æóðíàëå è ÷î? Íàì îöåíèòü ñëîã ïèàðùèêà?
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ãèòàðà

À âîò âûãëÿäåòü êîìáèê äåéñòâèòåëüíî ñòàë íàìíîãî ëó÷øå.
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Áðèòàíñêèå æóðíàëû êàê è ñóäû â îáùåì-òî íå ïðîäàþòñÿ.  ñâî¸ âðåìÿ Áåðåçîâñêèé, äóìàÿ, ÷òî ðàç îí ïðîòèâíèê Ïóòèíà, òî ñóä âûèãðàåò ó Àáðàìîâè÷à, ïóòèíñêîãî ëþáèìöà, î÷åíü äàæå îøèáñÿ...
Áðèòàíñêèå æóðíàëû î÷åíü öåíÿò îáúåêòèâíîñòü è êîìïåòåíòíîñòü ñâîèõ ýêñïåðòîâ, ýòî îñíîâà èõ ðàáîòû, èíà÷å æóðíàë ïîêóïàòü íå áóäóò. Ýòîãî ìîãóò íå ïîíèìàòü òîëüêî íàøè íåêîòîðûå æèòåëè, ïðèâûêøèå, ÷òî çäåñü âñ¸ ìîæíî êóïèòü...
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Âðåìÿ: 17.10.2014 11:34 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ãèòàðà

Óâàæàåìûé ã-í Åðàñîâ, ïîñëåäíèå ñîáûòèÿ â ìèðå çàñòàâëÿþò óñîìíèòüñÿ â îáúåêòèâíîñòè íå òî ÷òî êàêîãî-òî îêîëî-ìóçûêàëüíîãî æóðíàëèøêè, íî è âåäóùèõ ÑÌÈ, íåçàâèñèìî îò èõ ãåîãðàôè÷åñêîãî ïîëîæåíèÿ.
À åù¸ ìíå êàæåòñÿ, ÷òî Âû ïðåçèðàåòå ñîáñòâåííûõ ñîîòå÷åñòâåííèêîâ. Íó òàêèå ó ìåíÿ ïî÷åìó-òî ïðåäïîëîæåíèÿ.

Âîïðîñ ê ìîäåðàòîðàì: ÿ îøèáàþñü èëè äëÿ ýòîãî ïðåäñòàâèòåëÿ áèçíåñà áûëà âûäåëåíà îòäåëüíàÿ òåìà, â êîòîðîé îí ìîã ïîïë¸âûâàòü â íàñ, ëàïîòíûõ, ñâîèìè äîñòèæåíèÿìè íà ìèðîâîé àðåíå? :balalai:
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Ìîñêâà
Strat, ASAT, SG, Takamine

ÁÅËÛÉ_ÊÎÒ , ýòî âîïðîñ íå ê ìîäåðàòîðàì, à ê àäìèíèñòðàòîðàì.
Strat, ASAT, SG->Budda-> Cmatmods Signa Comp-> Zendrive->OCD->Fulltone '70 -> MXR Phase 90-> T-Rex Tremster-> RC Booster-> Strymon Brigadier-> Strymon Blue Sky// TS-808->BJFe Folk Fuzz->Wampler Plexi Drive-> Ibanez Flanger->EHX Pulsar->Malekko 616
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ãèòàðà

>ÁÅËÛÉ_ÊÎÒ , ýòî âîïðîñ íå ê ìîäåðàòîðàì, à ê àäìèíèñòðàòîðàì.
Gustaw , òîãäà âîïðîñ ê ìîäåðàòîðàì: ñîâñåì íåäàâíî òåìû ïîäîáíîãî ïëàíà çàêðûâàëèñü êàê íàðóøàþùèå ïðàâèëà ôîðóìà. Ïîëèòèêà ìîäåðèðîâàíèÿ èçìåíèëàñü èëè â äàííîì ñëó÷àå ïðàâèëà íå ðàáîòàþò?
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Ìîñêâà
Strat, ASAT, SG, Takamine

ÁÅËÛÉ_ÊÎÒ , ýòî òîæå âîïðîñ ê àäìèíèñòðàòîðàì. Áûëà ïðèíÿòà ëèíèÿ íà áîëåå ãóìàííîå îòíîøåíèå ê ïðîèçâîäèòåëÿì: åñëè íåò ññûëîê íà ìàãàçèí, ïðÿìîé ðåêëàìû, öåí òîâàðà, îáåùàíèÿ ñêèäîê è òä - òî è ñî ñòîðîíû ðóêîâîäñòâà ôîðóìà ïðåòåíçèé íåò. Ïðèìåðíî òàê.
Strat, ASAT, SG->Budda-> Cmatmods Signa Comp-> Zendrive->OCD->Fulltone '70 -> MXR Phase 90-> T-Rex Tremster-> RC Booster-> Strymon Brigadier-> Strymon Blue Sky// TS-808->BJFe Folk Fuzz->Wampler Plexi Drive-> Ibanez Flanger->EHX Pulsar->Malekko 616
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ÁÅËÛÉ ÊÎÒ, òåìà èíôîðìàòèâíàÿ, ïðèçûâîâ ïîêóïàòü â òåìå íåò. Ñàìî ñóùåñòâîâàíèå íàøåé ôèðìû êîíå÷íî ðàçäðàæàåò êîíêóðåíòîâ, íî íå äî òàêîé æå ñòåïåíè...Âîçíèê ñïîð - êóïëåíîå ðåâüþ èëè íåò. Ðåàëüíî ýêñïåðòû â áðèòàíñêèõ æóðíàëàõ ïèøóò ÷òî äóìàþò, èëè ÷òî ñêàæåò áóõãàëòåð. Èíòåðåñíàÿ òåìà íà ìîé âçãëÿä. Ïðîøó âûñêàçàòüñÿ ïî ýòîìó ïîâîäó. Ïî ïîâîäó "ïëåâêîâ" â ñîîòå÷åñòâåííèêîâ ïðîøó íå ïèñàòü - ýòî ñîâåðøåííî íåñåðü¸çíî è íå èìååò îòíîøåíèÿ ê ãèòàðíîé òåìàòèêå.
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ãèòàðà

>ÁÅËÛÉ ÊÎÒ, òåìà èíôîðìàòèâíàÿ, ïðèçûâîâ ïîêóïàòü â òåìå íåò.
 ÷¸ì èíôîðìàòèâíîñòü òåìû? Âèæó òåõíè÷åñêèå õàðàêòåðèñòèêè íå ïåðâîé è íå òðåòüåé ñâåæåñòè àïïàðàòà, âèæó öåíó â Àíãëèè, âèæó ïðèçûâ "áðàòü è íå äóìàòü", âèæó íåóäà÷íîå ñðàâíåíèå ñ íå ñàìûìè óäà÷íûìè êîïèÿìè õîðîøèõ ôîòîàïïàðàòîâ â êà÷åñòâå ëèðè÷åñêîãî îòñòóïëåíèÿ.
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guitar

à ó ìåíÿ êàáèíåò åðàñîâ, âñ¸ íðàâèòñÿ, êðåïêèé, õîðîøî çâó÷èò. äû è íà ðåïáàçå ñòîèò áóëüäîçåð-îòëè÷íûé óñèëîê, íå óñòóïàåò ìîåé ðåêòå äâóõêàíàëêå, ñðàâíèâàë.
À ýòà âûðåçêà èç æóðíàëà-õîðîøèé ïðèìåð òîãî, êàê âî âñ¸ì ìèðå ïðîäóêöèþ åðàñîâà îöåíèâàþò âûñîêî, ïîòîìó ÷òî èìåþò âîçìîæíîñòü îöåíèòü îáúåêòèâíî è áåñïðèñòðàñòíî. Ó íàñ æå 90 ïðîöåíòîâ ëþäåé ñïëîøü ïðîðîñëè ñòåðåîòèïàìè, íàñ÷¸ò ðîññèéñêîãî ïðîèçâîäñòâà, äû ÷¸ óæ òàì ìåëî÷èòñÿ, íàñ÷¸ò ðóññêîãî èññêóñòâà è èñïîëíèòåëüñòâà â öåëîì. Òàê ÷òî ÿ íå óäèâëþñü óâèäåâ îáîðóäîâàíèå åðàñîâ íà êîíöåðòå èçâåñòíûõ ïðèåçæèõ ãðóïï, è ýòî ïðîèçîéä¸ò ðàíüøå, ÷åì øêîëüíèêè íà ôîðóìàõ ïðåêðàòÿò ïëåâàòüñÿ ãàâíîì â àäðåñ ðîññèéêîé ïðîäóêöèè
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ß óâåðåí, ÷òî äëÿ áîëüøîãî ÷èñëà ôîðóì÷àí ýòà èíôîðìàöèÿ îêàçàëàñü ïîëåçíîé. Íà ôîðóìû õîäÿò íå òîëüêî "ãóðó", íî è íà÷èíàþùèå.  ñâåòå ïîäíÿòèÿ ïàòðèîòèçìà â Ðîññèè êîìó-òî áóäåò ïðèÿòíî, ÷òî ó íàñ "òîæå åñòü".
Áîëåå òîãî, ó÷èòûâàÿ ÷òî ïîíÿòèÿ "êóïèòü" è "ïðîäàòü" ïðîòèâîïîëîæíû, ïðîøó òîò ôàêò, ÷òî ìû êîíå÷íûé ïðîäóêò íå ïîêóïàåì òàì, à íàîáîðîò, ïðîäà¸ì òóäà, ñ÷èòàòü äîïîëíèòåëüíûìè ñàíêöèÿìè ïî îòíîøåíèþ ê Åâðîïå :-)
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>> Âîçíèê ñïîð - êóïëåíîå ðåâüþ èëè íåò. Ðåàëüíî ýêñïåðòû â áðèòàíñêèõ æóðíàëàõ ïèøóò ÷òî äóìàþò, èëè ÷òî ñêàæåò áóõãàëòåð.
Ñïîðà íèêàêîãî è òî íåò ïîêà. Ñàì ïèøåøü, ÷òî íåïîäêóïíûé è íåçàâèñèìûé ýêñïåðò ïèøåò òî, ÷òî åìó ñêàæåò áóõãàëòåð. À áóõãàëòåð ñêàæåò, òî ÷òî åìó ïîäñêàçûâàåò ñóììà âûñòàâëåííîãî âàì ñ÷åòà.
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Ãèòàðà

>Â ñâåòå ïîäíÿòèÿ ïàòðèîòèçìà â Ðîññèè
Èìåííî â ñâåòå ïîäíÿòèÿ ïàòðèîòèçìà âû ñòåñíÿåòåñü ïèñàòü Âàøó ôàìèëèþ íà ðîäíîì ÿçûêå?
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Ïîìíþ 1988 ãîä. Îòêðûâàþ êîîïåðàòèâ ñî ñêðèïîì - ïàðòèéíûå ðàáîòíèêè íèêàê íå ïîéìóò íîâóþ ëèíèþ ïàðòèè. Äîêàçûâàþ, ïîêàçûâàþ - âîò ïåäàëü DISTORTION. Çàìïðåä Ãîðèñïîëêîìà ñìîòðèò: "À ïî÷åìó íå ïî-ðóññêè?"
Ãîâîðþ - òàê ïðèíÿòî, ðåöåïòû ïî-ëàòûíè, àâèàáèëåòû ïî-ôðàíöóçñêè è ò.ä. Âîò, ìóçûêàíòû ïî-àíãëèéñêè ïðèâûêëè...Äà è ïîòîì, ìû æå ñîáèðàåìñÿ ïðîäàâàòü èõ ïî âñåìó ìèðó!(ýòî â 1988 ãîäó- íàãëåö, êîíå÷íî...)
Çàìïðåä àæ âçâèëñÿ - äà âû ÷òî! Íàøèì íàäî ïðîäàâàòü! Ïîâûøàòü áëàãîñîñòîÿíèå íàðîäà! :-) Òîãäà áûëî ñîâñåì íå ñìåøíî...
À ðîäíîé ÿçûê ÿ ëþáëþ, èñêðåííå Âàø,
ÅÐÀÑÎÂ Àëåêñàíäð Åâãåíüåâè÷(ïî çàãðàíïàñïîòó ê ñîæàëåíèþ - ERASOV ALEKSANDR:-) )
Ëîãîòèï êîìïàíèè - íå ðàññòðàèâàéòåñü ñèëüíî - YERASOV
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Ãèòàðà

Yerasov , :agree:
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ìíå íå ñîâñåì ïîíÿòåí áóãóðò, êîëü ñêîðî åäâà ëè íå åäèíñòâåííîå ñòîÿùåå è êîíêóðåòíîñïîñîáíîå, ÷òî ïðîèçâîäèòñÿ â ðîññèè, êðîìå íåôòè, îðóæèÿ è ñòðîéìàòåðèàëîâ - ýòî ìóçûêàëüíûå äåâàéñû - ëàìïû, ïðèìî÷êè, óñèëèòåëè
è ýòî íåñìîòðÿ íà îáùóþ, ìÿãêî ãîâîðÿ, áåçîòðàäíóþ ñèòóàöèþ ñ ìóçûêîé è êóëüòóðîé âîîáùå ó íàñ â ñòðàíå
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Ãèòàðà

>êîëü ñêîðî åäâà ëè íå åäèíñòâåííîå ñòîÿùåå è êîíêóðåòíîñïîñîáíîå, ÷òî ïðîèçâîäèòñÿ â ðîññèè, êðîìå íåôòè, îðóæèÿ è ñòðîéìàòåðèàëîâ - ýòî ìóçûêàëüíûå äåâàéñû - ëàìïû, ïðèìî÷êè, óñèëèòåëè
:14:
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guitar

>è ýòî íåñìîòðÿ íà îáùóþ, ìÿãêî ãîâîðÿ, áåçîòðàäíóþ ñèòóàöèþ ñ ìóçûêîé è êóëüòóðîé âîîáùå ó íàñ â ñòðàíå

íå íàäî áåçîòðàäíóþ ñèòóàöèþ â ñâî¸ì âíóòðåííåì ìèðêå ïåðåíîñèòü íà êóëüòóðíóþ æèçíü ñòðàíû. Ó íàñ êóëüòóðíàÿ è ñàìàÿ äóõîâíî ðàçâèòàÿ ñòðàíà, è íåêîòîðûå îáû÷íûå ïðîâèíöèàëüíûå ìóçûêàíòû âî èñòèíó ãåíèàëüíû, õîòü îíè è íå ñîáèðàþò ñòàäèîíû. Ïîòîìó ÷òî íå ó âñåõ ýòî â ïðèîðèòåòå, äà è ÷òîáû îöåíèòü íåêîòîðûå èäåè ñëóøàòåëü òîæå äîëæåí îáëàäàòü îïðåäåë¸ííûì èíòåëëåêòîì. Ìóçûêà ýòî íå òîëüêî ãèòàðíûå çàïèëû, Ìóñîðãñêèé, Áîðîäèí, Ðàõìàíèíîâ. ÿ ñëóøàþ èõ, íåçíàþ êàê âû. è ÿ ïîñòàâëþ ëþáîãî èç íèõ ïðîòèâ ëþáîãî àâñòðèéñêîãî ïåòóøêà â ëþáîé äåíü íåäåëè
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Ìîñêâà
Çàìå÷àòåëüíî êàêàÿ ïðåëåñòüSpector ReBoop

>Ïîìíþ 1988 ãîä. Îòêðûâàþ êîîïåðàòèâ ñî ñêðèïîì - ïàðòèéíûå ðàáîòíèêè íèêàê íå ïîéìóò íîâóþ ëèíèþ ïàðòèè. Äîêàçûâàþ, ïîêàçûâàþ - âîò ïåäàëü DISTORTION. Çàìïðåä Ãîðèñïîëêîìà ñìîòðèò: \"À ïî÷åìó íå ïî-ðóññêè?\"
>Ãîâîðþ - òàê ïðèíÿòî, ðåöåïòû ïî-ëàòûíè, àâèàáèëåòû ïî-ôðàíöóçñêè è ò.ä. Âîò, ìóçûêàíòû ïî-àíãëèéñêè ïðèâûêëè...Äà è ïîòîì, ìû æå ñîáèðàåìñÿ ïðîäàâàòü èõ ïî âñåìó ìèðó!(ýòî â 1988 ãîäó- íàãëåö, êîíå÷íî...)
>Çàìïðåä àæ âçâèëñÿ - äà âû ÷òî! Íàøèì íàäî ïðîäàâàòü! Ïîâûøàòü áëàãîñîñòîÿíèå íàðîäà! Òîãäà áûëî ñîâñåì íå ñìåøíî...
>À ðîäíîé ÿçûê ÿ ëþáëþ, èñêðåííå Âàø,
>ÅÐÀÑÎÂ Àëåêñàíäð Åâãåíüåâè÷(ïî çàãðàíïàñïîòó ê ñîæàëåíèþ - ERASOV ALEKSANDR:-) )
>Ëîãîòèï êîìïàíèè - íå ðàññòðàèâàéòåñü ñèëüíî - YERASOV
Yerasov , \":agree:\" Äóøåâíî.
Ãîðæóñü òåì ÷òî ó íàñ åñòü Åðàñîâ , RnR, Øèôòëàéí , Amt ...


æîïèêñ ,
>Ìóçûêà ýòî íå òîëüêî ãèòàðíûå çàïèëû, Ìóñîðãñêèé, Áîðîäèí, Ðàõìàíèíîâ. ÿ ñëóøàþ èõ, íåçíàþ êàê âû. è ÿ ïîñòàâëþ ëþáîãî èç íèõ ïðîòèâ ëþáîãî àâñòðèéñêîãî ïåòóøêà â ëþáîé äåíü íåäåëè
Òóò ñëîæíîñòü â òîì, ÷òî âû ãîâîðèòå î ìóçûêàëüíîì ïðîøëîì Ðîññèè. À ïðîòèâîïîñòàâëÿåòå ,ìóçûêàëüíîå íàñòîÿùåå..â äàííîì ñëó÷àå áîðîäàòîé Àâñòðèè)
À òî, ÷òî Ùóáåðò, Øòðàóñ è Ìîöàðò áûëè èìåííî îòòóäà, âû âèäèìî çàáûëè \":lol:\"
Ïàðîëü îò ôëóäà â ìîåì ïðîôàéëå â ãðàôå i c q
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ãîðîä Ê.
edwards potbelly

â íîâîì äèçàéíå âûãëÿäèò ëó÷øå
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ðàáîòàë è â ïðåññå è ñ ïðåññîé. è â òîì ÷èñëå ñ ìíîãîóâàæàåìûìè è ñ÷èòàþùèìèñÿ èñòèííîé â ïåðâîé èíñòàíöèè àíãëèéñêèìè èçäàíèÿìè. êñòàòè, íàø ìåäèéíûé ðûíîê âûðîñ íå ÷óäîì â ÷èñòîì ïîëå, à íà òåõ æå ÈÕ äðîææàõ, êàê è ïðèìî÷êà äèñòîðòèîí)) òàê ÷òî âñå åäèíî...
òàê âîò, äà! ñèòóàöèÿ âåçäå îäíà è òà æå. åñëè â êàêîì-òî æóðíàëå êîìïàíèÿ îôèöèàëüíî ðàçìåùàåò ðåêëàìó òî âû íå íàéäåòå â ýòîì èçäàíèè íè îäíîãî ïîðî÷àùåãî îòçûâà î åå ïðîäóêöèè è/èëè óñëóãàõ. íàîáîðîò, îáû÷íî îáçîðû ïðåäîñòàâëÿþòñÿ â êà÷åñòâå áîíóñà è ñàìî-ñîáîé îíè ëèáî ëåñòíûå ëèáî !â êðàéíåì! ñëó÷àå ñäåðæàííûå. âîò êàê-òî òàê. ýòî íàçûâàåòñÿ ñîòðóäíè÷åñòâî ñ îòðàñëåâîé ïðåññîé))
åùå ìîæíî "ïîäêàðìëèâàòü" íåïîñðåäñòâåííî êîíêðåòíûõ æóðíàëþã-ýêñïåðòîâ, íî ýòî óæå áîëåå òîíêàÿ òåìà)))
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>íåêîòîðûå îáû÷íûå ïðîâèíöèàëüíûå ìóçûêàíòû âî èñòèíó ãåíèàëüíû, õîòü îíè è íå ñîáèðàþò ñòàäèîíû

âîò ïîýòîìó è íå ñîáèðàþò, ÷òî ÍÈÊÎÌÓ ÍÅ ÍÓÆÍÛ. âñå ñèäÿò ïî ïîäâàëàì è ïî ïîñëåäíèì ýòàæàì ñîâåòñêèõ äê, çàïèñûâàþò ãåíèàëüíûå àëüáîìû, êîòîðûå íèêòî íèêîãäà íå óñëûøèò. â ëó÷øåì ñëó÷àå - èãðàþò ïî ôèëàðìîíèÿì äëÿ 30-òè áàáóøåê è 15-òè óíûëî æóþùèõ øêîëüíèêîâ

íàñòîÿùåå ìóçûêè â ðîññèè - ýòî äëÿ ìåíÿ âîò ýòî áîÿííîå âèäåî, ïðîñòèòå:


èçâèíÿþñü çà îôôòîï
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Gibson LP Studio Faded Cherry (ñ ðåìîíòîì îò ãàâíþêîâ äèñãàåâ)

âîò íå óñïåë íàïèñàòü â íà÷àëå, ÷òî ùàñ ìîñêîâñêèå è ïèòåðñêèå óïûðè âñå îáîñðóò è òî÷íî - âñå îáîñðàëè
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Ìîñêâà
Çàìå÷àòåëüíî êàêàÿ ïðåëåñòüSpector ReBoop

roma , âû ñóäàðü óïûðåé - â çåðêàëå èùèòå. Êàæäûé èç ñêàçàâøèõ âûðàæàåò ñâîþ òî÷êó çðåíèÿ, êîòîðàÿ èìååò ïðàâî íà æèçíü.
Ïàðîëü îò ôëóäà â ìîåì ïðîôàéëå â ãðàôå i c q
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guitars

Ïðîñòî ïîðàäîâàòüñÿ çà ñîîòå÷åñòâåííèêà íåëüçÿ, íóæíî îáÿçàòåëüíî ïîóìíè÷àòü è ïîãðèìàñíè÷àòü äëÿ ëó÷øåãî ïèùåâàðåíèÿ
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Ïëàòíîå ðåâüþ Áðåòà Êèíãìàíà áûëî âûëîæåíî íà Þ-òóáå, à âîò ýòî Áðåò íàïèñàë â ñâî¸ì ëè÷íîì Ôýéñáóêå
äëÿ ñâîèõ äðóçåé:

I rarely post reviews on my own page but I thought you'd like to see this as it has certainly impressed me.

I've seen, tried and heard some pretty good ideas this year, but I have to say that this SCS (secret connecting system) is without a doubt one of the best.

The pedals - which all sound great - are connected internally with RJ11 cables (one end on the bottom of the pedal itself, one end inside the SCS pedal board). This results in, 1. space economy; 2. easy power distribution (the total current draw is about 150mA. You can feed any one of the pedals and all of them share the power. Brilliant); and 3. it's incredibly quiet.

All of the pedals are True Bypass and all sound as good or better than many of their peers. Much attention has obviously been paid on getting the sounds right. The pedals can be purchased and used independently like any other stomp box; they are not exclusively tied to this system.

The total length of the assembled board is 52cm. Tiny!

At the moment this is the available range of pedals for guitar but I believe more are on the way. Can't wait. Bass pedals are also available.

An assembly video (no sound) can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCFFe5GgCco#t=42

I will post a demo shortly as I'm sure you'll be wanting to hear these pedals. I've tried them briefly with various guitars and all of the pedals are killers. In fact, the Delay is one of the sweetest I've heard from any company.

The website is at http://www.yerasov.ru although at the time of writing only a Russian version is available. I expect this will change soon.
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Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ãèòàðà

Yerasov , ýòî ðóññêîÿçû÷íûé ôîðóì.
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Áðåòò ê ñîæàëåíèþ àâñòðàëèåö...Íó, ïðî äèëåé â ÷àñòíîñòè îí íàïèñàë òèïà ýòî îäèí èç ëó÷øèõ èç òåõ ÷òî îí ñëûøàë...In fact, the Delay is one of the sweetest I've heard from any company.
Ìîæåò íàéä¸òñÿ êòî õîðîøî çíàåò ÿçûê è ñìîæåò ïåðåâåñòè?
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Òåìà: Re: Jazzwise ðåâüþ íà YERASOV GTA-15J
Âðåìÿ: 18.10.2014 02:09 
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>Áðåòò ê ñîæàëåíèþ àâñòðàëèåö...Íó, ïðî äèëåé â ÷àñòíîñòè îí íàïèñàë òèïà ýòî îäèí èç ëó÷øèõ èç òåõ ÷òî îí ñëûøàë...In fact, the Delay is one of the sweetest I've heard from any company.
>Ìîæåò íàéä¸òñÿ êòî õîðîøî çíàåò ÿçûê è ñìîæåò ïåðåâåñòè?

Íó , òàê îñîáûõ çíàíèé íå íàäî, äîñòàòî÷íî øêîëüíûõ.)))

Íà ñàìîì äåëå äèëåé îäèí èç ñàìûõ ñëàäêèõ, ÷òî ÿ ñëûøàë îò êàêèõ ëèáî ïðîèçâîäèòåëåé.
>ñpaòü ñåë, è âûëåòåëî âñ¸ èç ãîëîâû (ñ)Äîðåìèäîðåäî

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Òåìà: Re: Jazzwise ðåâüþ íà YERASOV GTA-15J
Âðåìÿ: 18.10.2014 14:28 



Öèòàòà ïîíÿòíà, õîòÿ â ðóññêîì ÿçûêå â äàííîì êîíòåêñòå áîëåå ïðàâèëüíî íà ìîé âçãëÿä ïðèìåíèòü âìåñòî ïðèëàãàòåëüíîãî ÑËÀÄÊÈÉ , áîëåå óïîòðåáèòåëüíîå ÑÎ×ÍÛÉ.
À âîò öåëèêîì òåêñò ãðàìîòíî ïåðåâåñòè íå ìîãó, ÿçûê çíàþ a little bit... òàê ÷òî ïîêà çëîáîäíåâíî...åñëè ïðèøëþò, òî ðàçìåùó ïåðåâîä çäåñü îáÿçàòåëüíî.
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Òåìà: Re: Jazzwise ðåâüþ íà YERASOV GTA-15J
Âðåìÿ: 18.10.2014 15:02 
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26 ëåò ðàáîòû, ¸-ìàå
- Êîíöåðò Ñòàñà Ìèõàéëîâà â Ìóðìàíñêå îòìåí¸í èç-çà îòñóòñòâèÿ çðèòåëåé
- Ïîõîæå, Ìóðìàíñêó ïîðà ïðèñâàèâàòü çâàíèå Êóëüòóðíîé Ñòîëèöû Ðîññèè.
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Òåìà: Re: Jazzwise ðåâüþ íà YERASOV GTA-15J
Âðåìÿ: 18.10.2014 15:51 
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>Öèòàòà ïîíÿòíà, õîòÿ â ðóññêîì ÿçûêå â äàííîì êîíòåêñòå áîëåå ïðàâèëüíî íà ìîé âçãëÿä ïðèìåíèòü âìåñòî ïðèëàãàòåëüíîãî ÑËÀÄÊÈÉ , áîëåå óïîòðåáèòåëüíîå ÑÎ×ÍÛÉ.
>À âîò öåëèêîì òåêñò ãðàìîòíî ïåðåâåñòè íå ìîãó, ÿçûê çíàþ a little bit... òàê ÷òî ïîêà çëîáîäíåâíî...åñëè ïðèøëþò, òî ðàçìåùó ïåðåâîä çäåñü îáÿçàòåëüíî.

Íó äàê ïîíÿòíî, ÷òî ìíîãèå ôðàçû äîñëîâíî íå ïåðåâîäÿòñÿ è ñëîâà ïî ïîðÿäêó çà÷àñòóþ íå ñòàâÿòñÿ. Êîíå÷íî ìîæíî çàìåíèòü ñëîâî ñâèò íà ñî÷íûé, âêóñíûé, êëåâûé è ò.ï., ìîæíî ñëîâî êîìïàíè çàìåíèòü íà ôèðìó, áðýíä, êîíòîðà, øàðàãà...
>ñpaòü ñåë, è âûëåòåëî âñ¸ èç ãîëîâû (ñ)Äîðåìèäîðåäî

>ÿ ñïåðâà ïîìíèë, à ïîòîì ïåðåñòàë (ñ)Äîðåìèäîðåäî
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Òåìà: Re: Jazzwise ðåâüþ íà YERASOV GTA-15J
Âðåìÿ: 18.10.2014 19:01 

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À â ÷åì èñòèííàÿ öåëü ñîîáùåíèÿ îò àâòîðà?
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Òåìà: Re: Jazzwise ðåâüþ íà YERASOV GTA-15J
Âðåìÿ: 18.10.2014 20:10 
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>À â ÷åì èñòèííàÿ öåëü ñîîáùåíèÿ îò àâòîðà?
÷òîáû çà íåãî ïîðàäîâàëèñü. Îñòàëèñü åùå ëþäè, ñïîñîáíûå ðàäîâàòüñÿ çà äðóãèõ, èëè âñå êàê â òîì àíåêäîòå?
- Êîíöåðò Ñòàñà Ìèõàéëîâà â Ìóðìàíñêå îòìåí¸í èç-çà îòñóòñòâèÿ çðèòåëåé
- Ïîõîæå, Ìóðìàíñêó ïîðà ïðèñâàèâàòü çâàíèå Êóëüòóðíîé Ñòîëèöû Ðîññèè.
www.shift-line.com
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Òåìà: Re: Jazzwise ðåâüþ íà YERASOV GTA-15J
Âðåìÿ: 19.10.2014 14:56 
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Çàìå÷àòåëüíî êàêàÿ ïðåëåñòüSpector ReBoop

>ÿ î÷ ðàä íà ñàìîì äåëå. åðàñîâ ìîëîäåö!
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Òåìà: Re: Jazzwise ðåâüþ íà YERASOV GTA-15J
Âðåìÿ: 19.10.2014 22:27 
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>ñpaòü ñåë, è âûëåòåëî âñ¸ èç ãîëîâû (ñ)Äîðåìèäîðåäî

>ÿ ñïåðâà ïîìíèë, à ïîòîì ïåðåñòàë (ñ)Äîðåìèäîðåäî
 ýòîò ôîðóì ìîãóò ïèñàòü òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûå ïîëüçîâàòåëè!