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Àâòîð Òåìà: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 10.04.2014 17:38 
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Ïîäñêàæèòå êàêîé òðàíñôîðìàòîð îïòèìàëüíî êóïèòü äëÿ êîìáî 110V ñäåëàííîãî äëÿ ðûíêà ÑØÀ
Íà í¸ì íàïèñàíî 120V -60Hz 100W 0.85A
Çàðàíåå áëàãîäàðåí.
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Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 10.04.2014 17:45 
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 >Âñåì ïðèâåò!
>Ïîäñêàæèòå êàêîé òðàíñôîðìàòîð îïòèìàëüíî êóïèòü äëÿ êîìáî 110V ñäåëàííîãî äëÿ ðûíêà ÑØÀ
> Íà í¸ì íàïèñàíî 120V -60Hz 100W 0.85A
>Çàðàíåå áëàãîäàðåí.


äëÿ êîìáî, ñäåëàííîãî â ñøà, íóæåí òðàíñ ñ âûõîäîì 120V (òî÷íåå 117V)
ó íàñ òàêèå íå ïðîäàþòñÿ
ó íàñ ïðîäàþò íà 110V
...Βυζαντινή Ρωμαίοι εδω ... Φαειτ τα σκαταμ.
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Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 10.04.2014 19:47 
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 ñòàíäàðòíîå íàïðÿæåíèå ýëåêòðîñåòè â ÑØÀ èìåííî 120Â, ýòî òàê ê ñëîâó.

ïî ãîññòàíäàðòó ó íèõ äîïóñòèìû îòêëîíåíèÿ +-5% (òî åñòü îêîëî 6â) - îò 114 äî 126 â

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mains_electricity#Sta ndardization

äàëüíåéøèé âîïðîñ ñîñòîèò êîíêðåòíî â ìàðêå àïïàðàòà, òàê êàê òà íàäïèñü ìîæåò îòíîñèòñÿ ê ðàçëè÷íûì âåùàì.
íåîáõîäèì ïîíèæàþùèé òðàíñôîðìàòîð èëè ïåðåäåëêà àïïàðàòà.

ïåðâûé âàðèàíò óäîáåí òåì, ÷òî íè÷åãî ìåíÿòü íå íàäî, îäíàêî ïîÿâëÿåòñÿ îòäåëüíàÿ òÿæåëàÿ êîðîáêà, ÷òî âåñüìà íåóäîáíî åñëè àïïàðàò êóäà-òî âûåçæàåò. Õîòÿ åñëè ýòî êîìáèê, òî ìîæíî ïîíèæàþùèé ïðèêðóòèòü âíóòðü ÿùèêà íà îäíó èç åãî ñòåíîê, â ýòîìó ñëó÷àå ìîáèëüíîñòü âîçðàñòåò.  ðÿäå ñëó÷àåâ ñ äîïîëíèòåëüíûì ïîíèæàþùèì ìîæåò ïîÿâèòüñÿ ôîí.

Ïîíèæàþùèé òðàíñôîðìàòîð - êàê âàðèàíò, ËÀÒÐ îò ñòàðèííîãî ëëàìïîâîãî òåëåâèçîðà, ñïåöèàëüíûå òðàíñôîðìàòîðû òèïà

http://www.tor-trans.com.ua/transequipment.html

êàê ðàç çäåñü ìîæíî çàêàçàòü îòäåëüíî íóæíûé òîðîèäàëüíûé òðàíñôîðìàòîð, êîòîðûé íà 1 âèíò ïðèêðåïèòü ê áîêîâîé ñòåíêå ñâîåãî êîìáî èçíóòðè. Ìíîãèå ñ÷èòàþò ýòî îäíèì èç ëó÷øèõ âàðèàíòîâ, íèêàêèõ êîðîáîê äîïîëíèòåëüíûõ.

âòîðîé âàðèàíò - ïåðåäåëàòü ñðàçó ñàì àïïàðàò - âîçìîæíû ðàçíûå âàðèàíòû.  íåêîòîðûõ äîñòàòî÷íî ïåðåêèíóòü âûâîäû îáìîòêè èëè ïåðåêëþ÷èòü êàêîé-íèáóäü äæàìïåð âíóòðè, íåêîòîðûì æå - òîëüêî ìåíÿòü ñèëîâîé òðàíñôîðìàòîð, ýòî äîâîëüíî òîëêîâî ðàñïèñàíî çäåñü

http://www.tubetone.ru/index.php?option=com_conten t&view=article&id=87:220v&cati...8-20&Itemid=139

Õîðîøèé èñòî÷íèê ôèðìåííûõ òðàíñôîðìàòîðîâ äëÿ åâðîïåéñêîãî ðûíêà http://www.tubeampdoctor.com
êîò, êàòîðûé ïàòîì óìèð :7:
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Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 10.04.2014 20:32 
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 äàáëèí) òàì îò øòàòà ê øòàòó íàïðÿæåíèå ãóëÿåò)
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Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 10.04.2014 20:48 
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 >117 âîëüò
>120Â
òîæå ðàçíèöà âåëèêà äëÿ ïîíèæàþùåãî òðàíñà
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Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 10.04.2014 20:54 
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 îôèöèàëüíûå ñòàíäàðòû áûëè óêàçàíû. Íåíóæíûé ôëóä èç òåìàòè÷åñêîé âåòêè óäàëåí.
êîò, êàòîðûé ïàòîì óìèð :7:
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Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 10.04.2014 20:56 
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 îôèöèàëüíûé ñòàíäàðò íàïðÿæåíèÿ â ñåòè ÑØÀ = 117 âîëüò
...Βυζαντινή Ρωμαίοι εδω ... Φαειτ τα σκαταμ.
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Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 10.04.2014 21:03 
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 >îôèöèàëüíûé ñòàíäàðò íàïðÿæåíèÿ â ñåòè ÑØÀ = 117 âîëüò

íåò , êàê áû ýòîãî âàì íå õîòåëîñü, åñòü îôèöèàëüíûå ñòàíäàðòû â êîòîðûõ âñå óêàçàíî.

âñå äàëüíåéøåå îáñóæäåíèå äàííîãî âîïðîñà è âûäâèæåíèå âàìè ñîáñòâåííûõ âûäóìàííûõ ñòàíäàðòîâ åñòü ôëóä è ýòî áóäåò óäàëåíî, òàê êàê â ïîäîáíûõ âîïðîñàõ ðàçíî÷òåíèÿ íå äîïóñòèìû.
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Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 10.04.2014 21:06 
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Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 10.04.2014 21:09 
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 >http://www.school-for-champions.com/science/ac_wo rld_volt_freq.htm


õîðîøî ... äîïóñòèì
êàê âû îáúÿñíèòå òî, ÷òî íà ïðèáîðàõ, ñäåëàííûõ â ÑØÀ, óêàçàíî íàïðÿæåíèå èìåííî 117 V ?
...Βυζαντινή Ρωμαίοι εδω ... Φαειτ τα σκαταμ.
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Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 10.04.2014 21:15 
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 >êàê âû îáúÿñíèòå òî, ÷òî íà ïðèáîðàõ, ñäåëàííûõ â ÑØÀ, óêàçàíî íàïðÿæåíèå èìåííî 117 V ?
âîò òàê: "However, due to fluctuations, the average measured voltage is 117 VAC."
Òîæå ñàìîå òóò: http://www.tfwm.com/audio-032811ray
In the USA, the mains power as found at wall outlets has a nominal voltage of around 117 volts. However, it is not practical or cost effective to design an electrical system that delivers an absolutely constant voltage at all times to all wall outlets. In the real world there will be voltage variations.

Ò.å. âïîëíå ìîæåò óêàçûâàòüñÿ ôàêòè÷åñêîå ñðåäíåå. Íèêàêîé áåäû òóò íåòó.
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Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 10.04.2014 21:22 
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 >>êàê âû îáúÿñíèòå òî, ÷òî íà ïðèáîðàõ, ñäåëàííûõ â ÑØÀ, óêàçàíî íàïðÿæåíèå èìåííî 117 V ?
>âîò òàê: "However, due to fluctuations, the average measured voltage is 117 VAC."

ýòî ÿ ÷èòàë


ó ìåíÿ áûë MXR 10 band ýêâàëàéçåð -- ñòàðîãî òèïà -- ñ ñåòåâûì øíóðîì ...ó íåãî ñçàäè áûëî óêàçàíî 117V
âîò òàêîé




èëè -- âîò ïðèáîð ....ââåðõó ñïðàâà ÷¸òêî âèäíî 117V
êàê âû ýòî îáúÿñíèåòå?
...Βυζαντινή Ρωμαίοι εδω ... Φαειτ τα σκαταμ.
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Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 10.04.2014 21:22 
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 >>êàê âû îáúÿñíèòå òî, ÷òî íà ïðèáîðàõ, ñäåëàííûõ â ÑØÀ, óêàçàíî íàïðÿæåíèå èìåííî 117 V ?
>âîò òàê: "However, due to fluctuations, the average measured voltage is 117 VAC."
>Òîæå ñàìîå òóò: http://www.tfwm.com/audio-032811ray
>In the USA, the mains power as found at wall outlets has a nominal voltage of around 117 volts. However, it is not practical or cost effective to design an electrical system that delivers an absolutely constant voltage at all times to all wall outlets. In the real world there will be voltage variations.
>Ò.å. âïîëíå ìîæåò óêàçûâàòüñÿ ôàêòè÷åñêîå ñðåäíåå. Íèêàêîé áåäû òóò íåòó.

èìåííî òàê, ýòî çíà÷åíèå ïîïàäàåò â óêàçàííûé äèàïàçîí äåâèàöèè +-5%, ïîëîæåííûé ïî ñòàíäàðòó. Íî èìåííî îíî íå ÿâëÿåòñÿ ñòàíäàðòíûì íàïðÿæåíèåì â ýëåêòðîñåòè. Èçìåíåíèÿ ñåòåâîãî íàïðÿæåíèÿ âïîëíå âîçìîæíû â òå÷åíèå ñóòîê íàãðóçêà íà ýëåêòðîñåòü ìåíÿåòñÿ è îíî ìîæåò êàê ïðîñåäàòü, òàê è ïîâûøàòüñÿ, îáû÷íî â ïðåäåëàõ, îïðåäåëåííûõ ãîññòàíäàðòàìè, íà çàïàäå ýòî äîñòàòî÷íî ñòðîãî ñîáëþäàåòñÿ. çàìåðåííûå ãäå-òî êåì-òî â ðîçåòêå íàïðÿæåíèÿ îôèöèàëüíûì ãîññòàíäàðòîì íå ÿâëÿþòñÿ, íî ñêîðåå âñåãî ïîïàäóò â 5% äèàïàçîí îòêëîíåíèé.

Êàðòèíêà ïðèáîðà íå ÿâëÿåòñÿ òàêæå îôèöèàëüíûì ñòàíäàðòîì, êàê áû ýòîãî íå õîòåëîñü. ïðîèçâîäèòåëü âîëåí íà ïðèáîðå ïèñàòü âñå ÷òî åìó âçäóìàåòñÿ, îñîáåííî åñëè ýòî áûòîâûå ïðèáîðû ñ íå î÷åíü æåñòêîé ñèñòåìîé ñåðòèôèêàöèè.
êîò, êàòîðûé ïàòîì óìèð :7:
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Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 10.04.2014 21:28 
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 ââåðõó ïðèâåäåíî ôîòî ïðèáîðà ñ óêàçàííûì íàïðÿæåíèåì 117V

çíà÷èò -- íà ïðèáîðå ÑØÀ óêàçàíî íå îôèöèàëüíîå íàïðÿæåíèå? ... èëè êàê?

.
ó íàñ íà ïðèáîðàõ óêàçàíî îôèöèàëüíîå íàïðÿæåíèå -- 220 Â ...... õîòÿ, â ñåòè ðàçáðîñ ìîæåò áûòü ïî ðàçíîìó ......... +/- êàêèå-òî ïðîöåíòû
...Βυζαντινή Ρωμαίοι εδω ... Φαειτ τα σκαταμ.
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Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 10.04.2014 21:30 
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 âàøè îáúÿñíåíèÿ, ãîñïîäà ... ???
...Βυζαντινή Ρωμαίοι εδω ... Φαειτ τα σκαταμ.
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Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 10.04.2014 21:31 
Randall
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Fender Am Deluxe ProTools12

 âîò âàì ñäàëèñü ýòè òðè âîëüòà îíè íè ÷åãî íå ðåøàþò. Íàïèñàíî â ñòàíäàðòå 120, êàêàÿ ðàçíèöà êòî ãäå ÷åãî íàìåðÿë
Film-Post production. Music production. https://vk.com/dygai_band
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Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 10.04.2014 21:33 
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 >âîò âàì ñäàëèñü ýòè òðè âîëüòà îíè íè ÷åãî íå ðåøàþò. Íàïèñàíî â ñòàíäàðòå 120, êàêàÿ ðàçíèöà êòî ãäå ÷åãî íàìåðÿë


íàì-òî íå ñäàëèñü òðè âîëüòà

êàê áûòü ñ òåì, ÷òî íà ïðèáîðå óêàçàíî 117V ?
ýòî îáìàí?
ýòî îøèáêà?
ýòî íå ñîîòâåòñòâèå îôèöèàëüíîìó ñòàíäàðòó?
èëè ÷òî ýòî? ...êàê ýòî îáúÿñíèòü?
...Βυζαντινή Ρωμαίοι εδω ... Φαειτ τα σκαταμ.
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Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 10.04.2014 21:35 
Randall
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 >êàê áûòü ñ òåì, ÷òî íà ïðèáîðå óêàçàíî 117V ?
åñëè ÿ ïðîèçâîäèòåëü è â ñåòè ó ìåíÿ âñåãäà 117 âìåñòî ñòàíäàðòíûõ 120. ÷òî ìíå çàïðåùàåò íàïèñàòü 117. Íà ìíîãèõ ïðèáîðàõ ó íàñ ïèøóò 240, êàê æå áûòü, îáìàí?! Ó ýíåðãîñåòåé íè êòî íå áóäåò æå ñïðàøèâàòü ñêîëüêî òàì ìíå ïèñàòü íà ïðèáîðå.
Film-Post production. Music production. https://vk.com/dygai_band
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Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 10.04.2014 21:39 
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 Randall , íà ïðèáîðàõ âñåãäà äîëæíî óêàçûâàòüñÿ îôèöèàëüíîå íàïðÿæåíèå â ñåòè, íà êîòîðîå ðàññ÷èòàí ïðèáîð.

ïîíÿòíî, ÷òî ðåàëüíîå íàïðÿæåíèå ìîæåò îòëè÷àòüñÿ -- ïî òåì èëè èíûì ïðè÷èíàì -- îò óñòàíîâëåííîãî ñòàíäàðòà .... è ïðèáîðû èìåþò "çàïàñ" ïðî÷íîñòè

íî, óêàçûâàòü íà ïðèáîðå äîëæíû ÒÎËÜÊÎ îôèöèàëüíîå íàïðÿæåíèå â ñåòè. Åäèíûé ñòàíäàðò äëÿ ñòðàíû.
èíà÷å -- áóäåò áàðäàê
...Βυζαντινή Ρωμαίοι εδω ... Φαειτ τα σκαταμ.
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Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 10.04.2014 21:40 
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 http://kropla.com/electric2.htm
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Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 10.04.2014 21:41 
Randall
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 >íî, óêàçûâàòü íà ïðèáîðå äîëæíû ÒÎËÜÊÎ îôèöèàëüíîå íàïðÿæåíèå â ñåòè. Åäèíûé ñòàíäàðò äëÿ ñòðàíû.
>èíà÷å -- áóäåò áàðäàê
ñøà... ÷òî òàì òîæå íå âñåãäà â ïîðÿäêå. À ó íàñ âèäèøü âñå â ïîðÿäêå ñ ýòèì âîïðîñîì :agree:
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Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 10.04.2014 21:42 
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 âî, ÷î íàøåë: http://www.mercurymagnetics.com/pages/news/VGmag/VGFeb08-RoyB.htm
êëþ÷åâîå ñëîâî:
> ñòàðîãî òèïà -- ñ ñåòåâûì øíóðîì ...ó íåãî ñçàäè áûëî óêàçàíî 117V

ó ìåíÿ ñòîèò àìåðèêàñêèé ôåíäåð íà÷àëà 90õ. òàì 120 óæå íàïèñàíî. êàê ñòàíäàðò ïðèíÿëè, òàê è ïèøóò.
à â ðîçåòêàõ ÷òî áûëî, òî è åñòü)) ðàçäîëáàè))
Do ye know where the Holy Flamin' Frost-Brand Gronk-Slayin' Vorpal Hammer o' Woundin' an' Returnin' an' Shootin'-Lightnin'-Out-Yer-Bum is?
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Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 10.04.2014 21:43 
el doctor
ñàðàòîâ
banhammer

 >ó íàñ íà ïðèáîðàõ óêàçàíî îôèöèàëüíîå íàïðÿæåíèå -- 220 Â ...... õîòÿ, â ñåòè ðàçáðîñ ìîæåò áûòü ïî ðàçíîìó ......... +/- êàêèå-òî ïðîöåíòû

íàäïèñü íà ïðèáîðå íå ÿâëÿåòñÿ îôèöèàëüíî óñòàíîâëåííûì ñòàíäàðòîì íàïðÿæåíèÿ â ýëåêòðîñåòè.

 Ðîññèè íîìèíàëüíûì íàïðÿæåíèåì ïîòðåáèòåëüñêîé ýëåêòðîñåòè óñòàíîâëåíî íàïðÿæåíèå 230/400 Â, ÷àñòîòà 50 Ãö
(ÃÎÑÒ 29322-92). Ýòîò ñòàíäàðò ïðèíÿò âçàìåí 220/380Â ñ 1992 ãîäà. Â íîâûõ äîìàõ, ñîãëàñíî äåéñòâóþùèì ïîëîæåíèÿì, óñòàíàâëèâàåòñÿ èìåííî òàêàÿ àïïàðàòóðà ýëåêòðîñíàáæåíèÿ. Ñóùåñòâóþùåå æå óæå ýëåêòðîõîçÿéñòâî íà ñòàðûé ñòàíäàðò äîëæíî ïîñòåïåííî çàìåíÿòñÿ ïðè ðåìîíòàõ. Ñòàíäàðòíûå îòêëîíåíèÿ íàïðÿæåíèÿ ïî ÃÎÑÒÓ äîïóñòèìû â ïðåäåëàõ +6% è -10%.

Íàäïèñè íà áûòîâûõ ïðèáîðàõ íå ÿâëÿþòñÿ ïðåäìåòîì ñåðòèôèêàöèè è íåðåäêî ìîãóò áûòü îøèáî÷íû. Òàêæå ñòàíäàðò ÏÓÝ-7 íå ñîäåðæèò â ñåáå ñîîòâåòñòâóþùåãî îáíîâëåíèÿ, ñîîòâåòñòâåííî ïî íåìó äîïóñòèìî óêàçàíèå íà áûòîâûõ ïðèáîðàõ è íàïðÿæåíèÿ â 220Â.
êîò, êàòîðûé ïàòîì óìèð :7:
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Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 10.04.2014 21:46 
G.A.®
Byzantium
Fender/Vigier guitars Marshall amps/cabs TN Torpedo Live

 òàê ìíå íèêòî íå îáúÿñíèë --- ïî÷åìó íà ïðèáîðå óêàçàíî 117 V ..... à äîëæíî áûòü (êàê âû ãîâîðèòå) 120V

âîïðîñ îñòàëñÿ îòêðûòûì. :idea2:
...Βυζαντινή Ρωμαίοι εδω ... Φαειτ τα σκαταμ.
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Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 10.04.2014 21:46 
el doctor
ñàðàòîâ
banhammer

 >Randall , íà ïðèáîðàõ âñåãäà äîëæíî óêàçûâàòüñÿ îôèöèàëüíîå íàïðÿæåíèå â ñåòè, íà êîòîðîå ðàññ÷èòàí ïðèáîð.

ýòî âàøå ëè÷íîå èçìûøëåíèå, êîòîðîå ïûòàåòåñü âûäàòü çà ïðàâäó. ïðåêðàòèòå áåñïîëåçíûé ôëóä â íåì òåðÿåòñÿ âåðíàÿ èíôîðìàöèÿ.

íàäïèñè íà áûòîâûõ ïðèáîðàõ íå òðåáóþò íèêàêîé îñîáåííîé ñåðòèôèêàöèè, âû âîëüíû ïèñàòü âñå ÷òî âû õîòèòå, ýòî íå áîëåå ÷åì ïàìÿòêà äëÿ ïîëüçîâàòåëÿ.
êîò, êàòîðûé ïàòîì óìèð :7:
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Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 10.04.2014 21:47 
satix
Ìîñêâà
Offline

 >òàê ìíå íèêòî íå îáúÿñíèë
ÿ îáúÿñíèë ïîñòîì âûøå :idea2:
Do ye know where the Holy Flamin' Frost-Brand Gronk-Slayin' Vorpal Hammer o' Woundin' an' Returnin' an' Shootin'-Lightnin'-Out-Yer-Bum is?
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 10.04.2014 21:48 
G.A.®
Byzantium
Fender/Vigier guitars Marshall amps/cabs TN Torpedo Live

 è êàê îáúÿñíèòü òîò ôàêò, ÷òî ïðè ìíîãîêðàòíîì çàìåðå ðåàëüíîãî íàïðÿæåíèÿ â àìåðèêàíñêîé ñåòè -- îíî ñîîòâåòñòâóåò 117 âîëüòàì, óêàçàííûì íà ïðèáîðàõ??
:4:
...Βυζαντινή Ρωμαίοι εδω ... Φαειτ τα σκαταμ.
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Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 10.04.2014 22:00 
Randall
Ìîñêâà
Fender Am Deluxe ProTools12

 G.A.® , ïîñìîòðè ãèòàðíûå óñèëêè íà ìíîãèõ íàïèñàíî 120, íà ìíîãèõ 110-120
Film-Post production. Music production. https://vk.com/dygai_band
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Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 10.04.2014 22:02 
G.A.®
Byzantium
Fender/Vigier guitars Marshall amps/cabs TN Torpedo Live

 >G.A.® , ïîñìîòðè ãèòàðíûå óñèëêè íà ìíîãèõ íàïèñàíî 120, íà ìíîãèõ 110-120

120 --- âèäåë

117 -- âèäåë î÷åíü ìíîãî
...Βυζαντινή Ρωμαίοι εδω ... Φαειτ τα σκαταμ.
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 10.04.2014 22:06 
Randall
Ìîñêâà
Fender Am Deluxe ProTools12

 >120 --- âèäåë
>117 -- âèäåë î÷åíü ìíîãî
Ó íèõ áàðäàê, à ó íàñ êóì êîðîëþ ñâàò ìèíèñòðó. Íàäî áûëî òåáå, êîãäà áûë òàì, ñïðîñèòü ïî÷åìó òàêèå íåðàçáåðèõà ñ ãîñòàìè ó íèõ :idea2:
Film-Post production. Music production. https://vk.com/dygai_band
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Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 10.04.2014 22:08 
G.A.®
Byzantium
Fender/Vigier guitars Marshall amps/cabs TN Torpedo Live

 >>120 --- âèäåë
>>117 -- âèäåë î÷åíü ìíîãî
>Ó íèõ áàðäàê,

íå ñêàçàë áû
êîãäà ÿ òàì æèë -- áàðäàêà òàì íå íàáëþäàë ;)
...Βυζαντινή Ρωμαίοι εδω ... Φαειτ τα σκαταμ.
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Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 10.04.2014 22:16 
Rocknrolla
Ìîñêâà
Ñòðàòîêàñòåð

 117V -120V - ?!? âîò ìàæîðû , ýòî îäíî è òîæå, ó íàñ íà äà÷å çèìîé íàïðÿæåíèå ñ 220V äî 190V ïàäàåò, ñòîèò ñòàáèëèçàòîð íàïðÿæåíèÿ è íè÷åãî , âñ¸ ñâåòèòñÿ, êðóòèòñÿ, ãðååòñÿ.
Êñòàòè ëåòîì èíîãäà òðàíñ è 240V ïîêàçûâàåò, à ðàíüøå è áåç íåãî æèëè, ëàìïî÷êè òî ÿð÷å, òî òóñêëåå ðàáîòàëè, è ýòî âñåãî â 25êì îò Ìîñêâû, ïîçîð 21 âåê!!!
Âñòðåòèòå ×óáàéñà ñïðîñèòå åãî ÷òî çà çàìóò òàêîé, êòî â íàâàðå?
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Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 10.04.2014 22:23 
Rocknrolla
Ìîñêâà
Ñòðàòîêàñòåð

 Âîò îíà êàðòà ðàçäåëà ìèðà
voltages.gif
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 10.04.2014 23:06 
Rocknrolla
Ìîñêâà
Ñòðàòîêàñòåð

 Êñòàòè âåçäå ïèøóò 220-240V èëè 110-120V
Âûõîäèò ýëåêòðè÷åñòâî âåëè÷èíà íå ïîñòîÿííàÿ, êàê âñ¸ â ýòîì ìèðå,
è äàæå ñàì ã-í Äîëëåð $$$ íå ïîñòîÿíåí, î áîæå ó ìåíÿ æå 200 áàêñîâ åù¸ åñòü.
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Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 11.04.2014 00:42 
Randall
Ìîñêâà
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 >Âûõîäèò ýëåêòðè÷åñòâî âåëè÷èíà íå ïîñòîÿííàÿ, êàê âñ¸ â ýòîì ìèðå
ýòî æå êàêèå ìîùíîñòè íóæíû ÷òî áû êîìïåíñèðîâàòü ïîòðåáèòåëåé)))
Film-Post production. Music production. https://vk.com/dygai_band
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Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 11.04.2014 01:40 
Rocknrolla
Ìîñêâà
Ñòðàòîêàñòåð

 Êîìïåíñèðîâàòü ïîòðåáèòåëåé âûõîäÿùèõ èç ïîäúåçäîâ ðàéîíà Áóòîâî Ó-ãà-ãà ))))

Êñòàòè åñëè â Áóòîâî äîëãî ñìîòðåòü íà çâ¸çäû, òî êðîâü ïåðåñòà¸ò èäòè èç íîñà.
Ó-ãà-ãà))) Ùà îïèñàþñü))))
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Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 11.04.2014 06:51 
G.A.®
Byzantium
Fender/Vigier guitars Marshall amps/cabs TN Torpedo Live

 >Ùà îïèñàþñü))))


íàïðàñíî òû ýòî äåëàåøü
âîçäåðæèñü :onotole:
ñòàáèëèçàöèè íàïðÿæåíèÿ â ÑØÀ ýòî ÿâíî íå ïîìîæåò :agree:
...Βυζαντινή Ρωμαίοι εδω ... Φαειτ τα σκαταμ.
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Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 11.04.2014 20:09 
Rocknrolla
Ìîñêâà
Ñòðàòîêàñòåð

 À âîò òàêîé òðàíñôîðìàòîð ïîäîéä¸ò???
Ïî õàðàêòåðèñòèêàì ïðîõîäèò, äàæå â 2 ðàçà ìîùíåå 200W , ñòîèò ä¸øåâî.


http://www.radioassorti.ru/product/nf-200/
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Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 13.04.2014 12:07 
G.A.®
Byzantium
Fender/Vigier guitars Marshall amps/cabs TN Torpedo Live

 >À âîò òàêîé òðàíñôîðìàòîð ïîäîéä¸ò???


òà, áåðè óæå ëþáîé ))

ëè÷íî ó ìåíÿ ïîíèæàþùèå òðàíñû âûäàþò 120V :idea2: ..... 117-120 ----- ðàçíèöà íåáîëüøàÿ ... íèêàêîé ïàíèêè íåò :golod06:
îäèí ìîé òðàíñ (ïðè íàøèõ 220Â) âûäà¸ò 117 V
âòîðîé òðàíñ (ïðè íàøèõ 220Â) âûäà¸ò 120 V
...Βυζαντινή Ρωμαίοι εδω ... Φαειτ τα σκαταμ.
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Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 14.04.2014 16:54 
-=AXEL=-
Ìîñêâà


 ß, ïî ðåêîìåíäàöèè Ñ. Àíäðååâà, ïåðåìîòàë. Ìèòèíî, 1500 ðóá.
Êòî ïîíÿë æèçíè ñìûñë è òîëê, äàâíî çàìêíóëñÿ è óìîëê
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 14.04.2014 16:58 
-=AXEL=-
Ìîñêâà


 Åùå îáðàòèñü ê ñïåöàì, ìîæåò íà òâîåì òðàíñå åñòü îáìîòêà íà 220, íà ìîåì Áîãíåðå áûëà.
Êòî ïîíÿë æèçíè ñìûñë è òîëê, äàâíî çàìêíóëñÿ è óìîëê
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Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 14.04.2014 21:28 
satix
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 Rocknrolla , -=AXEL=- , ïàðíè, íà ôîðóìå åñòü ëè÷êà.
Do ye know where the Holy Flamin' Frost-Brand Gronk-Slayin' Vorpal Hammer o' Woundin' an' Returnin' an' Shootin'-Lightnin'-Out-Yer-Bum is?
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 17.04.2014 11:16 
DDO
Ìîñêâà
PC3X,SY-77,XV5080,JD990,D550,JP8080,MU100R,AN200,TX7,TX81Z,VG-88

 2 Rocknrolla:
Òðàíñôîðìàòîð ïî âàøåé ññûëêå - íå òðàíñôîðìàòîð. Îáðàòèòå âíèìàíèå íà ìàññó. Íà 200âò òðàíñôîðìàòîð âåñèò ãîðàçäî áîëüøå. Ýòîò ïðåîáðàçîâàòåëüÿ âàì íå ðåêîìåíäóþ è, ïîëàãàþ, âñå ñ ýòèì ñîãëàñÿòñÿ. Îáúåêòèâíî âàì íóæåí èìåííî ïîíèæàþùèé òðàíñôîðìàòîð ñ íîìèíàëüíîé ìîùíîñòüþ âî âòîðè÷íîé îáìîòêå íå ìåíåå 100âò (à ëó÷øå áîëüøå), íîìèíàëüíûé òîê âòîð. îáìîòêè ä.á. íå ìåíåå =100/110 À. Íàïðÿæåíèå 110...120 Â. Âîò ïî õàðàêòåðèñòèêàì âòîðè÷íîé îáìîòêè è âûáèðàéòå. Äåøåâî íå áóäåò, åñëè õîðîøèé òðàíñ. Êðåïèòü â êîðïóñå êîìáà òîëüêî ñ ýêðàíèðîâàíèåì (ëó÷øå ÷òîáû ó íåãî áûëà ýêðàíèðóþùàÿ îáìîòêà). Òîððîèäàëüíàÿ êîíñòðóêöèÿ ïðåäïî÷òèòèåëüíåé, îí áîëåå êîìïàêòåí.
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 17.04.2014 11:18 
DDO
Ìîñêâà
PC3X,SY-77,XV5080,JD990,D550,JP8080,MU100R,AN200,TX7,TX81Z,VG-88

 Êñòàòè, õîòåë ñïðîñèòü. Ñêîëüêî ñòîèëà ïåðåñûëêà åãî èç ÑØÀ, èëè ëè÷íî íà ðóêàõ âåçëè?
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 17.04.2014 11:19 
satix
Ìîñêâà
Offline

 >Òðàíñôîðìàòîð ïî âàøåé ññûëêå - íå òðàíñôîðìàòîð.
à ÷òî æå, ìîæíî ïîëþáîïûòñòâîâàòü? :popc:
Do ye know where the Holy Flamin' Frost-Brand Gronk-Slayin' Vorpal Hammer o' Woundin' an' Returnin' an' Shootin'-Lightnin'-Out-Yer-Bum is?
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 17.04.2014 20:59 
DDO
Ìîñêâà
PC3X,SY-77,XV5080,JD990,D550,JP8080,MU100R,AN200,TX7,TX81Z,VG-88

 Ïðåîáðàçðâàòåëü íà êîíäåíñàòîðå. Òàì íåò òðàíñôîðìàòîðà êàê òàêîâîãî.
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 17.04.2014 21:25 
satix
Ìîñêâà
Offline

 >Ïðåîáðàçðâàòåëü íà êîíäåíñàòîðå. Òàì íåò òðàíñôîðìàòîðà êàê òàêîâîãî.
ðàññêàçûâàé ïîäðîáíåé: ãäå êîíäåíñàòîð, ïî÷åìó êîíäåíñàòîð, çà÷åì êîíäåíñàòîðó òàêàÿ êîðîáêà áîëüøàÿ, ïî÷åìó ïëîõî. \":soap_bub:\"
Do ye know where the Holy Flamin' Frost-Brand Gronk-Slayin' Vorpal Hammer o' Woundin' an' Returnin' an' Shootin'-Lightnin'-Out-Yer-Bum is?
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 18.04.2014 09:20 
DDO
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 X-( Ïîñìîòðè ñêîëüêî âåñèò òðàíñôîðìàòîð íà 200âò è ñðàâíè ñ ìàññîé ýòîé ôèãíè. Áîëüøå èíôîðìàöèè íå áóäåò.
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Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 18.04.2014 09:22 
satix
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 DDO , :7:
íå â êóðñå êàê ÷î, òàê è íå âåøàé ëàïøó íà óøè äðóãèì
Do ye know where the Holy Flamin' Frost-Brand Gronk-Slayin' Vorpal Hammer o' Woundin' an' Returnin' an' Shootin'-Lightnin'-Out-Yer-Bum is?
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Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 18.04.2014 09:54 
Randall
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 äà òðàíñ òàì ñêîðåå âñåãî èìïóëüñíûé.
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Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 18.04.2014 10:03 
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 Randall , è òû òóäà æå.. õîòÿ íå ñêàæó, ÷òî óäèâèë)
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Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 18.04.2014 10:12 
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 Ëàäíî, íàäîåëî. Âîò òàê ýòî äåëàåòñÿ, ëåãêî è êîìïàêòíî.
Do ye know where the Holy Flamin' Frost-Brand Gronk-Slayin' Vorpal Hammer o' Woundin' an' Returnin' an' Shootin'-Lightnin'-Out-Yer-Bum is?
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Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 18.04.2014 10:21 
Randall
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 satix , ãíó åñëè òàì îáû÷íûé, òî åñòü îãðîìíîå ñîìíåíèÿ ïî ïîâîäó ìàêñèìàëüíîãî òîêà êîòîðûé âûäàåò ýòîò òðàíñ òàêèõ ìàëåíüêèõ ðàçìåðîâ ÷òî áû â íåãî âêëþ÷èòü ëàìïîâóþ ãîëîâó :da:
Film-Post production. Music production. https://vk.com/dygai_band
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Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 18.04.2014 10:24 
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 Randall , äàæå îáñóæäàòü íå áóäó) ñîìíåâàéñÿ, ñêîëüêî âëåçåò)
Do ye know where the Holy Flamin' Frost-Brand Gronk-Slayin' Vorpal Hammer o' Woundin' an' Returnin' an' Shootin'-Lightnin'-Out-Yer-Bum is?
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Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 18.04.2014 11:18 
G.A.®
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 >Randall , äàæå îáñóæäàòü íå áóäó)

íå íàäî îáñóæäàòü --- çàáàíü åãî ñðàçó :agree:

:yak:
...Βυζαντινή Ρωμαίοι εδω ... Φαειτ τα σκαταμ.
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Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 18.04.2014 11:32 
Randall
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 >íå íàäî îáñóæäàòü --- çàáàíü åãî ñðàçó
íå âèæó ïðåïÿòñòâèé :idea2:
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Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 18.04.2014 13:40 
G.A.®
Byzantium
Fender/Vigier guitars Marshall amps/cabs TN Torpedo Live

 >>íå íàäî îáñóæäàòü --- çàáàíü åãî ñðàçó

>íå âèæó ïðåïÿòñòâèé
(èç êèíîôèëüìà "Âà-Áàíê 2") :idea2: ... õîðîøåå êèíî, êñòàòè :agree:
...Βυζαντινή Ρωμαίοι εδω ... Φαειτ τα σκαταμ.
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Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 18.04.2014 14:55 
DDO
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 2 Safix
ß òàê ïîíèìàþ, âû òðàíñôîðìàòîð íà 200âò â ðóêàõ äàæå íå äåðæàëè!!!
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Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 18.04.2014 15:07 
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 DDO , âîò òåáå åùå ðàç :7:
Do ye know where the Holy Flamin' Frost-Brand Gronk-Slayin' Vorpal Hammer o' Woundin' an' Returnin' an' Shootin'-Lightnin'-Out-Yer-Bum is?
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Òåìà: Re: Òðàíñôîðìàòîð äëÿ êîìáî 120V èç ÑØÀ
Âðåìÿ: 20.04.2014 16:52 
(Bloodmix)
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 êîðî÷å, êîìðàäû åñòü ëè íîðìàëüíûé òðàíñôîðìàòîð? :idea2:
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