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Òðóáàéïàñ, òðóáàéïàñ… Âîîáùåì, ÷åì áû íå çàíèìàòüñÿ, ëèøü áû äèññåðòàöèþ íå ïèñàòü! ...

Âçÿë ÿ è äåðíóë ñòðóíû íà ñâîåé ãèòàðå ïðÿìî â çâóêîâóõó, çàïèñàë â Àäîá Àóäèøí 3, çàòåì ïðîãíàë çàïèñü ÷åðåç ïðîâîä ïðîñòî (÷èñòûé çâóê) è âñå ñâîè ïåäàëè ïî î÷åðåäè â âûêëþ÷åííîì ñîñòîÿíèè.
Àíàëèç ïðîâîäèëñÿ â ÂýéâËàáå ïî õàðàêòåðèñòèêàì ïèêîâîé ãðîìêîñòè è ÐÌÑêå (ñðåäíåêâàäðàòè÷íîé), ÷àñòîòíîé õàðàêòåðèñòèêå.

Ðåçóëüòàòû ýêñïåðèìåíòà:

Peak, dB RMS, dB
×èñòûé çâóê (ãèòàðà-ïðîâîä-êàðòà) -0,42 -8,44
Áàéïàñ (êàðòà-ïðîâîä-ïåäàëü off-ïðîâîä-êàðòà):
BOSS PH-3 PHASE SHIFTER -2 -10,4
BOSS tuner TU-80 -0,5 -9,07
BOSS TREMOLO TR-2 -2,82 -10,97
YERASOV S-COMPRESSOR SC-3 -0,42 -8,44
YERASOV GREEN TICK GT-1 -0,43 -7,64
Carl Martin Classic Chorus -0,43 -7,65
Big Muff Pi Morozz-off Custom -0,42 -8,44
Belcat AB-BOX (line selector A/B) -1,97/-2,79 -10,79/-11,49

Çäåñü êàðòèíêè ñ ÷àñòîòíûìè õàðàêòåðèñòèêàìè:
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Âûâîäû:
1. Òðóáàéïàñ ñóùåñòâóåò! Òàê ìàñòåðîâîé Áèã Ìàô è Åðàñîâñêèé êîìïðåññîð ïîêàçàëè ìèíèìàëüíûå èñêàæåíèÿ.
2. Çàÿâëåííûé òðóáàéïàñ Êàðëà Ìàðòèíà è Åðàñîâñêîãî Ãðèí Òèêà èíòåðåñåí – ãðîìêîñòü óâåëè÷èâàåòñÿ çà ñ÷åò óñèëåíèÿ ÷àñòîò îêîëî 500 Ãö, êàðòèíà ïðàêòè÷åñêè èäåíòè÷íàÿ. Îñòàëüíûå ÷àñòîòû èñêàæàþòñÿ ìèíèìàëüíî.
3.  ñëó÷àå Áîññîâ ïðè ëþáîì ðàñêëàäå ãîâîðèòü î òðóáàéïàñå íå ñòîèò, ãðîìêîñòü òåðÿåòñÿ, ÷àñòîòû äàâÿòñÿ. Òðåìîëî – íàèâðåäíåéøàÿ ïåäàëü!!!
4. ÀÁ Áîêñ âîîáùå âûêèíó, ÿ åãî ñòàâèë äëÿ ïåðåêëþ÷åíèÿ íà òþíåð… èç òåñòà âèäíî, ÷òî åñëè ïîñòàâèòü òþíåð â öåïü, òî ïîòåðÿ ñèãíàëà áóäåò äàæå ìåíüøå!

Âîò òàêîé âîò… òðóáàéïàñ! Óñïåõîâ!!!
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ìîëîäåö :4:
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êàêèì îáðàçîì Áîöö ñâÿçàí ñ òðóáàéïàñ ) ? ýòîæ íå ñâÿçàíûå âåùè îò íà÷àëà âðåìåí.
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ãèòàðà.âîêàë

Çäåñü ñìîòðÿ ÷òî èìåòü ââèäó ïîä òðóáàéïàñîì. Îñîáåííîñòü ýëñõåìû èëè åùå ÷òî-òî. Äëÿ ìåíÿ, êàê è äëÿ ëþáîãî ìóçûêàíòà íàâåðíîå, òðóáàéïàñ - ýòî êîãäà ïåäàëü âûêëþ÷åíà îíà íå èñêàæàåò ïðîõîäÿùåãî ñèãíàëà. Ïðè ýòîì íàëè÷èå åå â öåïè òîëüêî äëÿ ïîíòîâ óæå âîçìîæíî áåç ïîñëåäñòâèé äëÿ êà÷åñòâà çâóêà.

À ñàìûé îôèãåííûé ìèíóñ "íåòðóáàéïàñà" - èñêàæåíèå ñëàáîãî ñèãíàëà äî åãî ïîïàäàíèÿ â óñåëèòåëü. Åùå íà çàðå ñâîåãî ó÷àñòèÿ â ýòîì ôîðóìå ÿ ïîäíèìàë ýòîò âîïðîñ - îñîáåííîñòè èñïîëüçîâàíèÿ èíñòðóìåíòàëüíîãî ïðåàìïà äëÿ ãèòàðû ïåðåä ïåäàëÿìè. Íàäîìíîé òîãäà æóòêî ïîñìåÿëèñü... íî âîò â ñëåäóþùèé ðàç ÿ ïðîàíàëèçèðóþ èñêàæåíèÿ ñèãíàëà â ïåäàëþãå íå óñèëåííîãî è óñèëåííîãî â ïðåäóñèëêå. Ýòî áóäåò î÷÷åíü èíòåðåñíî! Î÷åíü! Îæèäàåòñÿ íå òîëüêî áîëåå "áîãàòûé" ãàðìîíè÷åñêè ñèãíàë (ïðåäóñèëîê ëàìïîâûé), íî è ìåíåå çàäàâëåííûé, òàê ñêàæåì!
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>Çäåñü ñìîòðÿ ÷òî èìåòü ââèäó ïîä òðóáàéïàñîì.


Ïîä "òðó-áàéïàññîì" íóæíî èìåòü ââèäó òîëüêî îäíî - òðó-áàéïàññ,
òî åñòü - â âûêëþ÷åííîì ðåæèìå ïðèìî÷êè ñèãíàë ïîëíîñòüþ îáõîäèò ñõåìó(ýòîé ïðèìî÷êè) - âõîä è âûõîä çàìûêàþòñÿ íàïðÿìóþ... êàê-áóäòî ýòîé ïðèìî÷êè âîîáùå íåò â öåïè (ýôôåêòîâ).
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boss - ãîìíî (ñ) Äæ. Áóäâàéçåð
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Ýòî ïî ñõåìå, ñîáñíà ïðè ýòîì çâóê íèêàê íå îêðàøèâàåòñÿ è íå òåðÿåòñÿ. Ìû ïîíèìàåì ïîä òðóáàéïàñîì îäíî è òî æå!!!

Âûíóæäåí êîíñòàòèðîâàòü... ds-2 ìíå íå íðàâèëñÿ, à òî ÷òî îñòàëîñü èç áîññîâ - ñðåò çâóê!
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Blessed
Íå ïî ñõåìå.  áîññàõ ÍÅ òðóáàéïàññ, òàì áàéïàññ ðåàëèçîâàí â ýëåêòðîííîé ñõåìå, ïîýòîìó áåç òîêà ñèãíàëà â áàéïàññå íåò (òî åñòü áàéïàññ ðåàëèçîâàí ÷åðåç ñõåìó), íó è ýòîé ñõåìîé ñèãíàë êóøàåòñÿ.

À â òîì æå êðàéáåáè òðóáàéïàññ, òàê êàê ïðè îòêëþ÷åííîé ïåäàëè ñèãíàë íå ïðîõîäèò ÷åðåç ñõåìó ïðèìî÷êè, è èäåò íàïðÿìóþ ñ èíïóòà íà àóòïóò, è òîê äëÿ òàêîãî áàéïàññà íå íóæåí, òàê êàê ýëåêòðîííûõ ñõåì â ïóòè íåò (äàæå ìîæíî ïåðåïóòàòü âõîä è âûõîä, âñå ðàâíî â áàéïàññå çâóê áóäåò èäòè, èáî òàì âñå íàïðÿìèê. Êîíå÷íî ñàìà ïðèìî÷êà çâóêà íå äàñò êîãäà âêëþ÷èøü åå, åñëè ïåðåïóòàòü âõîäû...) :idea2:
Òåáå ïîâåçëî. Îáúåìíåé óæå íåêóäà. Ëàìïîâåé åðàñîâ ÀÄ-2 ïîæàëóé òîëüêî ïèâåé 5150, à îáúåìíåé ÀÌÒ è âîêñ áóëüäîãà ïîæàëóé ðàçâå ÷òî òîëüêî Âñåëåííàÿ :7: (ñ) el Doctor
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;) äà ÿ ýòî âñå ïðåäñòàâëÿþ, ïðîñòî ãîâîðþ ïî äðóãîìó, íå ïðî ñõåìû, à çâóê. Ïîíÿòíî ÷òî åñëè ïðè íàæàòèè êíîïêè ëèíèÿ ñ âõîäà ñðàçó íà âûõîä ïîäàåò ñèãíàë íà ïðÿìóþ, áåç ñõåìû, òî ñî çâóêîì íè÷åãî íå ïðîèçîéäåò.
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>Çäåñü ñìîòðÿ ÷òî èìåòü ââèäó ïîä òðóáàéïàñîì. Îñîáåííîñòü ýëñõåìû èëè åùå ÷òî-òî

îñòàëüíîå, ÷òî íå íàïðÿìèê ñ èíïóòà íà àóòïóò, ñîáñòâåííî, ÍÅ òðóáàéïàññ. :yes:
Òåáå ïîâåçëî. Îáúåìíåé óæå íåêóäà. Ëàìïîâåé åðàñîâ ÀÄ-2 ïîæàëóé òîëüêî ïèâåé 5150, à îáúåìíåé ÀÌÒ è âîêñ áóëüäîãà ïîæàëóé ðàçâå ÷òî òîëüêî Âñåëåííàÿ :7: (ñ) el Doctor
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Ãèòàðà

>Êîíå÷íî ñàìà ïðèìî÷êà çâóêà íå äàñò êîãäà âêëþ÷èøü åå, åñëè ïåðåïóòàòü âõîäû...)
Êðàé Áýáè äàñò, ïðè÷åì äîâîëüíî çàáàâíûé :idea2:
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>êàêèì îáðàçîì Áîöö ñâÿçàí ñ òðóáàéïàñ ) ? ýòîæ íå ñâÿçàíûå âåùè îò íà÷àëà âðåìåí.

Ïî õîäó äåëà òàê! Ôðàçà ïðèêîëîëà - îò íà÷àëà âðåìåí... :lol:
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ÁÅËÛÉ_ÊÎÒ íàäî ïîïðîáîâàòü :idea2:

ïðîñòî äèñò íå äàåò :4:
Òåáå ïîâåçëî. Îáúåìíåé óæå íåêóäà. Ëàìïîâåé åðàñîâ ÀÄ-2 ïîæàëóé òîëüêî ïèâåé 5150, à îáúåìíåé ÀÌÒ è âîêñ áóëüäîãà ïîæàëóé ðàçâå ÷òî òîëüêî Âñåëåííàÿ :7: (ñ) el Doctor
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õâîñòú äà êîõãòè

Blessed, ìîëîäåö, çàùèòèë äèññåðòàöèþ íà òåìó òðóáàéïàñà... :4:
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õâîñòú äà êîõãòè

òîëüêî âîò ñòàòèñòèêè íåòó... âûáîðêó íóæíî áðàòü áîëüøóþ... :4:
Cat + Techno music + Extasy
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>À â òîì æå êðàéáåáè òðóáàéïàññ, òàê êàê ïðè îòêëþ÷åííîé ïåäàëè ñèãíàë íå ïðîõîäèò ÷åðåç ñõåìó ïðèìî÷êè, è èäåò íàïðÿìóþ ñ èíïóòà íà àóòïóò, è òîê äëÿ òàêîãî áàéïàññà íå íóæåí, òàê êàê ýëåêòðîííûõ ñõåì â ïóòè íåò (äàæå ìîæíî ïåðåïóòàòü âõîä è âûõîä, âñå ðàâíî â áàéïàññå çâóê áóäåò èäòè, èáî òàì âñå íàïðÿìèê. Êîíå÷íî ñàìà ïðèìî÷êà çâóêà íå äàñò êîãäà âêëþ÷èøü åå, åñëè ïåðåïóòàòü âõîäû...)

Íàñ÷¸ò êðàéáàáû: òàì ñèãíàë ïîñòîÿííî âèñèò íà âõîäíîé ÷àñòè ñõåìû, ïîñåìó òðóÚ ñ÷èòàòüñÿ íå ìîæåò. òåì æå ñàìûì ãðåøàò è ìíîãèå ÌÕR. Ò.Å. ñèãíàë áåç áàòàðåéêè ïðîõîäèò, íî ñ ïîòåðÿìè.

È åù¸: ìåòîäèêà ñðàâíåíèÿ íå ñîâñåì "÷èñòà", ïîòîìó ÷òî âõîä çâóêîâîé êàðòû èìååò íåâûñîêîå âõîäíîå ñîïðîòèâëåíèå, è ïîýòîìó íà À×Õ îêàçûâàåò ïðèëè÷íîå âëèÿíèå âûõîäíîå ñîïðîòèâëåíèå ïðåäûäóùåãî äåâàéñà. Åñëè áû èñïîëüçîâàëñÿ àäåêâàòíûé èíñòðóìåíòàëüíûé ïðåäóñèëèòåëü, óâåðåí, ðåçóëüòàòû áûëè áû äðóãèìè.
"Cëàâà àëëàõó, ÷òî ÿ íå ñîñòîÿëñÿ êàê ìóçûêàíò, òåïåðü åñòü ãäå æèòü è íà ÷åì åçäèòü 8)" © Research
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êðàéáåéáè ïðè îáðàòíîì ïîäêëþ÷åíèè î÷åíü òðîãàòåëüíî âîåò, ïðè ýòîì âûñîòó çâóêà ìîæíî ìåíÿòü ïåäàëüþ. ìíå ñêîðî åùå îäíà êâàêà ïðèåäåò, ÿ äàæå õî÷ó êðàéáåéáè 'íàîáîðîò' â öåïè îñòàâèòü è ïðèêàëûâàòüñÿ èíîãäà
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>êðàéáåéáè ïðè îáðàòíîì ïîäêëþ÷åíèè î÷åíü òðîãàòåëüíî âîåò, ïðè ýòîì âûñîòó çâóêà ìîæíî ìåíÿòü ïåäàëüþ. ìíå ñêîðî åùå îäíà êâàêà ïðèåäåò, ÿ äàæå õî÷ó êðàéáåéáè 'íàîáîðîò' â öåïè îñòàâèòü è ïðèêàëûâàòüñÿ èíîãäà

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È åù¸... ïðèøëà â ãîëîâó òàêàÿ ïðîñòàÿ ìûñëü.. À íå ïîõðåíó ëè, òðóÚ òàì, èëè íåò?  ñòóäèè âñ¸ ðàâíî âêëþ÷àåøü â öåïü òîëüêî òî, ÷òî íóæíî â äàííûé ìîìåíò, à â æèâüå... çâóêà÷ - êîç¸ë è çâóê ãîâíî! êàêàÿ óæ òóò ðàçíèöà, òðóÚ èëè íå î÷åíü? :drazn:
"Cëàâà àëëàõó, ÷òî ÿ íå ñîñòîÿëñÿ êàê ìóçûêàíò, òåïåðü åñòü ãäå æèòü è íà ÷åì åçäèòü 8)" © Research
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Âðåìÿ: 31.01.2010 02:31 
PITERBURG


Ìíå óæå äàâíî ïîõðåíó )) Åñòü êîíå÷íî êðàéíèå âàðèàíòû , à òàê ïîôåõ ) . )
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Âðåìÿ: 31.01.2010 02:45 
Ìîñêâà
Strat, ASAT, SG, Takamine

ñîâåðøåííî ïîõ. íî áîññ àïðèîðè "ãîÔíî" ïðè ëþáûõ ðàñêëàäàõ)))
Strat, ASAT, SG->Budda-> Cmatmods Signa Comp-> Zendrive->OCD->Fulltone '70 -> MXR Phase 90-> T-Rex Tremster-> RC Booster-> Strymon Brigadier-> Strymon Blue Sky// TS-808->BJFe Folk Fuzz->Wampler Plexi Drive-> Ibanez Flanger->EHX Pulsar->Malekko 616
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Âðåìÿ: 31.01.2010 02:47 
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Epi LP Std

òðà òà òà. íå ïîëåíèâøèñü ïåðåòêíóë øòóðû è ñ ïîëíîé óâåðåííîñòüþ çàÿâëÿþ: CryBaby 535Q íå âîåò! :idea2:
Òåáå ïîâåçëî. Îáúåìíåé óæå íåêóäà. Ëàìïîâåé åðàñîâ ÀÄ-2 ïîæàëóé òîëüêî ïèâåé 5150, à îáúåìíåé ÀÌÒ è âîêñ áóëüäîãà ïîæàëóé ðàçâå ÷òî òîëüêî Âñåëåííàÿ :7: (ñ) el Doctor
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Âðåìÿ: 31.01.2010 02:53 
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Strat, ASAT, SG, Takamine

BOSS , íå ïîäóìàé, ïîæàëóéñòà, ÷òî åñëè ìîé ïîñò ïîñëå òâîåãî, òî ðå÷ü â íåì î òåáå)_)))
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Âðåìÿ: 31.01.2010 02:56 
Ìîñêâà
õâîñòú äà êîõãòè

>íî áîññ àïðèîðè "ãîÔíî" ïðè ëþáûõ ðàñêëàäàõ)))

óãó, îñîáåííî CE-1, BF-1 è Jet Phaser è ïðî÷èå ìîíñòðû))))
à Roland åùå õóæå, òåì áîëåå Space Echo, íå ãîâîðÿ óæå î ìàøèíêàõ TR-808 è TR-909... :)
Cat + Techno music + Extasy
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Âðåìÿ: 31.01.2010 07:06 

ãèòàðà.âîêàë

Ïî ïîâîäó ìåòîäû: çàïèñàí îäèí ñýìïë, ïðîãîíÿëñÿ ÷åðåç äåâàéñû è ïðîñòî ïðîâîä (÷èñòûé), ïðè âûêëþ÷åííîé ïåäàëè ñîáñíà èìïåäàíñ èìåòü ìåñòà íå äîëæåí ïðè "òðóáàéïàñå", ïîýòîìó íå âàæíî ýòî - âàæíî ñðåòñÿ çâóê èëè íåò.
Ïðî ñòóäèþ âñå ÿñíî, ÿ è äîìà åñëè ïðîïèñàâàþ äåìêè, òî ïåäàëüêè ïî îòäåëüíîñòè âêëþ÷àþ. Ïðîñòî âîò íåêîòîðûå èç íèõ ÿ áû è íå ñòàë âêëþ÷àòü òåïåðü...
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Âðåìÿ: 31.01.2010 12:17 
Ëåíèíãðàä
ãèòàðà

Òðîãàòåëüíî âîåò ó ìåíÿ Êðàéáåéáè JH. Äðóãèå åùå íå ïðîáîâàë òàê âêëþ÷àòü :) Äóìàþ, 535 íå âîåò èç-çà òîãî, ÷òî ó íåå áàéïàññ äðóãîé âðîäå. Ìîæåò, åùå âîé ñâÿçàí ñ òåì àãðåãàòîì, ÷òî â êîíöå öåïè - ýòî íàäî ó ýëåêòðîíùèêîâ-ïàÿëüùèêîâ óçíàòü. Ó ìåíÿ âîåò îïÿòü æå ñ Áëþç Äæóíèîðîì è ÕîòÐîäîì
Rock'n'roll is never too loud
https://www.instagram.com/dr_perezz/
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Âðåìÿ: 31.01.2010 12:25 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ãèòàðà

> ñòóäèè âñ¸ ðàâíî âêëþ÷àåøü â öåïü òîëüêî òî, ÷òî íóæíî â äàííûé ìîìåíò, à â æèâüå... çâóêà÷ - êîç¸ë è çâóê ãîâíî!
Ñ òàêîé ëîãèêîé æèâüåì Ãèáñîí îò Ýïèôîíà íå îòëè÷èøü, à íà ñòóäèþ ìîæíî è íà ïðîêàò âçÿòü :4:
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Âðåìÿ: 31.01.2010 12:30 
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ó ìåíÿ íå âîåò 535êó ñòàðûé , è íå âîåò VOX v847 àìåðèêàíöêèé .
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Âðåìÿ: 31.01.2010 13:19 

ãèòàðà.âîêàë

Áóäåòå ïðîåçäîì ó íàñ â Âîëîãäå - ïðèâîçèòå ñâîè ïåäàëè, ïîòåñòèì íà ÂýéâËàáå èõ âî âñå ñòîðîíû ;)!
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Âðåìÿ: 31.01.2010 14:22 
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Strat, ASAT, SG, Takamine

Blessed , òû â âîëîãäå? ÿ ÷åòî äóìàë òû ñ ÷åðíîìîðüÿ))
Strat, ASAT, SG->Budda-> Cmatmods Signa Comp-> Zendrive->OCD->Fulltone '70 -> MXR Phase 90-> T-Rex Tremster-> RC Booster-> Strymon Brigadier-> Strymon Blue Sky// TS-808->BJFe Folk Fuzz->Wampler Plexi Drive-> Ibanez Flanger->EHX Pulsar->Malekko 616
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Âðåìÿ: 31.01.2010 17:20 

ãèòàðà.âîêàë

Íå, ÿ ïðîñòî êîãäà ìû õîòåëè âñòðåòèòüñÿ áûë ïðîåçäîì â Ìñê òóäà (Ñåâàñòîïîëü) è îáðàòíî!
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Âðåìÿ: 31.01.2010 17:30 

ãèòàðà.âîêàë

Âîò, êñòàòè, òîëüêî ÷òî çàêîí÷èë ñ MXR Distortion+. Òåñòèë åãî òåì æå ñýìïëîì â òðåõ ðåæèìàõ - áåç ïèòàíèÿ, ðó÷êè OUTPUT è DISTORTION â ïîëîæåíèÿõ max è min (ïîëó÷èëàñü ðàçíàÿ êàðòèíà ïî÷åìó-òî). Ýôôåêò êîíå÷íî îôô!
Peak,dB RMS, dB
Power off -0,5 -10,79
max -0,38 -7,21
min -0,32 -5,29 (?!?!?!?!)

×Õ çäåñü http://ifolder.ru/16189151 .

×òî ìîæíî ñêàçàòü ;) ...

Ýòî ÷óäî óñèëèâàåò íåñêîëüêî ÷àñòîò â äèàïàçîíå 300...600 Ãö, à âûøå 1000 ñðåçàåò! Ïî ñóòè ÎÍÎ äåëàåò ñîâåðøåííî äðóãîé "÷èñòûé" çâóê âàøåé ãèòàðû! Âîò òàê! Çäåñü êñòàòè áûëà òåìà ïðî Ä+, òàì ïðî ýòî ãîâîðèëîñü, ñ÷èòàéòå, ÷òî ýòî äîêàçàòåëüñòâî!... ãðóñòíîå...

Âëàäåëåö ðàññòðîèëñÿ... âñå òàêè íàóêà - çëî :alko_2464: !
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Âðåìÿ: 31.01.2010 19:06 
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ãèòàðà

Êóäà ñìîòðèò ìèëèöèÿ? :)
Rock'n'roll is never too loud
https://www.instagram.com/dr_perezz/
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Âðåìÿ: 31.01.2010 19:28 
ñàðàòîâ
banhammer

Blessed , à ïî ñõåìå ä+ íåÿñíî ÷òî ëè áûëî ýòî? äà è íå òðóáàéïàññ ó íèõ â ïðÿìîì ñìûñëå ýòîãî ñëîâà.
êîò, êàòîðûé ïàòîì óìèð :7:
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Âðåìÿ: 31.01.2010 19:32 

ãèòàðà.âîêàë

Ñõåìà - ñõåìîé, à çâóê - çâóêîì! Â äàííîì îïûòå ïîêàçàíî çâóêîçàñåðàòåëüñòâî ñèì äåâàéñîì.
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Âðåìÿ: 31.01.2010 19:57 

ãèòàðà.âîêàë

Êîëè÷åñòâåííî è êà÷åñòâåííî, òàê ñêàçàòü!
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Âðåìÿ: 31.01.2010 21:09 
Ìîñêâà
Offline

>Òðîãàòåëüíî âîåò ó ìåíÿ Êðàéáåéáè JH
ó ìåíÿ êàêîé-òî äðåâíþ÷èé êðàéáåéá òîæå :cry:
Do ye know where the Holy Flamin' Frost-Brand Gronk-Slayin' Vorpal Hammer o' Woundin' an' Returnin' an' Shootin'-Lightnin'-Out-Yer-Bum is?
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Âðåìÿ: 02.02.2010 09:25 

ãèòàðà.âîêàë

Ïðîäîëæàþ òåñòèòü âñå, ÷òî â ðóêè ïîïàäàåò. Íà ñåé ðàç ýòî áîööîâñêèé ýêâàëàéçåð GE-7! Â öåëîì ïðèÿòíî ïîðàæåí ïðèáîðîì, íî âîò ïðî çâóê...

Ïåäàëü íå ïðîïóñêàåò ñèãíàë áåç ïèòàíèÿ íè òàê íè ñÿê. À ñ ïèòàíèåì â âûêëþ÷åííîì ñîñòîÿíèè äåìîíñòðèðóåò íåáîëüøîé ñïàä ãðîìêîñòè (-0,6 ïèêîâîé è -8,97 ÐÌÑ òîãî æå ñýìïëà, ñì. âûøå). Íå õî÷ó âûêëàäûâàòü À×Õ - ëåíü âîçèòüñÿ, ïîâåðüòå íà ñëîâî - ñðåç âûñîêèõ, ÷òî èíòåðåñíî íå òàê âåëèê, êàê îæèäàëîñü, ìîæíî ñêàçàòü íåçíà÷èòåëüíûé. Ïåäàëü íàñûùàåò ñèãíàë ÷àñòîòàìè îêîëî 80 Ãö, à òàê æå íåñêîëüêî ïèêîâ â ðàéîíå 200...300 Ãö. Ýòî ìîæåò ñäåëàòü çâóê âàøåé ãèòàðû áîëåå ïëîòíûì è òåïëûì, òàê ÷òî ìîæíî ðàñöåíèâàòü êàê "+", îäíàêî äëÿ ÿðûõ ïðèâåðæåíöåâ ÒÐÓÚ - óòåøåíèÿ ìàëî... ãîâîðÿò ÌÕß åñòü ýêâàëàéçåðû "õîëîäíûå", íî ìíå è ýòîò ïðèøåëñÿ ïî äóøå!
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Âðåìÿ: 02.02.2010 09:34 
Ìîñêâà
Strat, ASAT, SG, Takamine

Blessed , òû ìîëîäåö, õîðîøåå äåëî... íàäî áû, íàâåðíîå, âûëîæèòü âñå íàãëÿäíûå ðèñóíî÷êè-êàðòèíî÷êè è èõ ïðèêðåïèòü â îòäåëüíóþ òåìó.. Òèïà - êàê ÷å âëèÿåò íà ñèãíàë.. Íî ýòî ñîçäàñò íåïðåìåííî íîâûå êóëüòû è ìèôîëîãèþ â íåïðî÷íûõ ìîçãàõ... à êàê èçâåñòíî, ñîçäàâàòü íîâóþ ðåëèãèþ àíòèãóìàííî))
Strat, ASAT, SG->Budda-> Cmatmods Signa Comp-> Zendrive->OCD->Fulltone '70 -> MXR Phase 90-> T-Rex Tremster-> RC Booster-> Strymon Brigadier-> Strymon Blue Sky// TS-808->BJFe Folk Fuzz->Wampler Plexi Drive-> Ibanez Flanger->EHX Pulsar->Malekko 616
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õâîñòú äà êîõãòè

Blessed, ãäå òâîÿ ãèòàðà ëåæèò? Ìîæåò âîçüìåøü åå, ïîèãðàåøü íåìíîæêî, àà? Íó ïîæàëóéñòà!
Cat + Techno music + Extasy
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Âðåìÿ: 02.02.2010 10:41 
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Strat, ASAT, SG, Takamine

Äæèëüêà , òû ÷å ïðîïàë è íå ïîçâîíèë è íå ïðèåõàë)))
Strat, ASAT, SG->Budda-> Cmatmods Signa Comp-> Zendrive->OCD->Fulltone '70 -> MXR Phase 90-> T-Rex Tremster-> RC Booster-> Strymon Brigadier-> Strymon Blue Sky// TS-808->BJFe Folk Fuzz->Wampler Plexi Drive-> Ibanez Flanger->EHX Pulsar->Malekko 616
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Âðåìÿ: 02.02.2010 10:51 

ãèòàðà.âîêàë

;) Ñîãëàñåí, Ãóñòàâ! Ñàì ÷óòü íå ïîâûêèäûâàë ëüâèíóþ äîëþ ïåäàëþã ïîñëå ñâîèõ îïûòîâ, íî âîò ïîñëå ýêâàëàéçåðà îñòûë - âñåãäà åñòü êîìïðîìèññ! ß åñëè åùå êàêèå ïåäàëè ïîïàäóòñÿ - áóäó òåñòèòü è âûêëàäûâàòü ñþäà æå, à òàê ñìîòðþ îñîáîãî èíòåðåñà òåìà íå âûçûâàåò, õîòÿ âïðèíöèïå èíòåðåñíà...

Äæèëüêà, ãèòàðà ïîä ðóêîé, íî èãðåö ÿ íå àõ, ÿ ïîþ â îñíîâíîì è âòîðóþ ãèòàðêó ïîäûãðûâàþ... à âîò â íàóêå ÿ ñèëåí ;), ïðàâäà äèññåðòàöèþ íå äîáüþ íèêàê... âñå ëèøü áû åå íå ïèñàòü, òî ïåíäàëè òåñòþ, òî åùå ÷åíèòü...
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Âðåìÿ: 02.02.2010 11:18 
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õâîñòú äà êîõãòè

Gustaw, ñîððè, ó ìåíÿ ðåïåòèöèè âñå âûõîäíûå çàáèëè...
Cat + Techno music + Extasy
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Âðåìÿ: 02.02.2010 11:25 
Ìîñêâà
Strat, ASAT, SG, Takamine

Äæèëüêà , ïàäëåöÚ)))
Strat, ASAT, SG->Budda-> Cmatmods Signa Comp-> Zendrive->OCD->Fulltone '70 -> MXR Phase 90-> T-Rex Tremster-> RC Booster-> Strymon Brigadier-> Strymon Blue Sky// TS-808->BJFe Folk Fuzz->Wampler Plexi Drive-> Ibanez Flanger->EHX Pulsar->Malekko 616
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