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Òåìà: âûáîð ïåäàëè äëÿ Sludge\\Post Metal
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Ñâåäóþùèå â íàïðàâëåíèè Sludge\\Post Metal, ïîäñêàæèòå êîíêðåòíûå ìîäåëè äèñòîðøí è àêóñòèê ãèòàðíûõ ïåäàëåé, êîòîðûå íàèáîëåå ïîäõîäÿò äëÿ òàêîé ìóçûêè.  êà÷åñòâå ïðèìåðà ÿ îðèåíòèðóþñü íà çâóê òàêèõ ãðóïï êàê CULT OF LUNA, NEUROSIS, PELICAN, RED SPAROWES èòä |
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Òåìà: Re: âûáîð ïåäàëè äëÿ Sludge\\Post Metal
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ñïåöïåäàëè äëÿ äðèùêîðà. 
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Òåìà: Re: âûáîð ïåäàëè äëÿ Sludge\\Post Metal
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>CULT OF LUNA, NEUROSIS, PELICAN, RED SPAROWES êòî âñå ýòè êàïñû? |
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Òåìà: Re: âûáîð ïåäàëè äëÿ Sludge\\Post Metal
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Ïèòåð ïàÿëüíèê/áàñ
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Òåìà: Re: âûáîð ïåäàëè äëÿ Sludge\\Post Metal
Âðåìÿ: 04.10.2009 01:28 |
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Ìîñêâà Strat, ASAT, SG, Takamine
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Òåìà: Re: âûáîð ïåäàëè äëÿ Sludge\\Post Metal
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Ïèòåð ïàÿëüíèê/áàñ
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Gustaw, ÿ òîæå â íåäîóìåíèè îò íàøåé ïî÷òû. Âñå ïîñûëêè â âàøó ñòîðîíó ïî íîìåðàì ÷èñëÿöà íà ñîðòèðîâêå â ñïá äî ñèõ ïîð. 
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Òåìà: Re: âûáîð ïåäàëè äëÿ Sludge\\Post Metal
Âðåìÿ: 04.10.2009 16:30 |
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ëþáàÿ ïåäàëü õàéãåéíîâàÿ ïîäîéäåò. ðýò êàêîé-íèáóäü èëè áîëåå ìîäåðíîâàÿ. çàâèñèò îò ñðåäñòâ è áîëüøå âñåãî îò íåïîñðåäñòâåííî àïïàðàòà â êîòîðûé âòûêàööà. áèã ìàôô íå ñîâåòóþ, íó åñëè òîëüêî âàðèàöèè íà íåãî òûïà áëýêàóò ìàñêåò ôàçç èëè ÷òî òî ïîäîáíîå. ëó÷øå âñåãî íàéòè òî÷êó â ñâîåì ãîðîäå ñ ïîðÿäî÷íûì ñòýêîì |
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Òåìà: Re: âûáîð ïåäàëè äëÿ Sludge\\Post Metal
Âðåìÿ: 04.10.2009 16:40 |
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>>CULT OF LUNA, NEUROSIS, PELICAN, RED SPAROWES >êòî âñå ýòè êàïñû? ìÿãêî ãîâîðÿ äîñòàòî÷íî âàæíûå êîìàíäû äëÿ ñîâðåìåííîé èíòåëëèãåíòîé ðîã ìóçûêè(÷èòàé íå ìåòàëëèêî), à íåóðîçèñ ýòî âîîáùå îòöû |
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Òåìà: Re: âûáîð ïåäàëè äëÿ Sludge\\Post Metal
Âðåìÿ: 04.10.2009 17:02 |
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> íåóðîçèñ ýòî âîîáùå îòöû àòöû äðèùêîðà? |
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Òåìà: Re: âûáîð ïåäàëè äëÿ Sludge\\Post Metal
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â òÿæåëûå äëÿ ìåòàëëà âðåìåíà, êîãäà îí ñîâñåì óæ ïðåâðàòèëñÿ â íåëåïóþ ìóçûêàëüíóþ ìàñòóðáàöèþ, íåâðîçèñ ñäåëàëè ÷òî-òî äåéñòâèòåëüíî èíòåðåñíîå è ñâåæåå íå ïîíèìàþ ê ÷åìó ýòîò ìóçûêàëüíûé ñíîáèçì íè÷åãî îáùåãî ñ äýòõêîðîì è ñêðèìî êîòîðûå âû äîêòîð òàê íå ëþáèòå â èõ ìóçûêå íåò |
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Òåìà: Re: âûáîð ïåäàëè äëÿ Sludge\\Post Metal
Âðåìÿ: 04.10.2009 21:04 |
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ïëÿ, ÿ âàùå íå ïîíèìàþ êàê ìîæåò ïåäàëü ïîä ñòèëü ïîäõîäèòü??? òèïà ìèòîëçîíà? äûê è íà íåé ìîæíî íàêðóòèòü ïî-ðàçíîìó... êàê ãèòàðà äëÿ ñêðèìî... 
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Òåìà: Re: âûáîð ïåäàëè äëÿ Sludge\\Post Metal
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take24, +100 à åùå åñòü óíèâåðñàëüíûå ñóïåðïåäàëè äëÿ âñåãî. íàçûâàþòñÿ ÿùùü505 
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Òåìà: Re: âûáîð ïåäàëè äëÿ Sludge\\Post Metal
Âðåìÿ: 04.10.2009 22:33 |
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íó ïðÿì íå ôîðóì, à ìàñîíñêàÿ ëîæà ÷òî æ îïûòíûå ïîëüçîâàòåëè âñå íèêàê íå ïðèâûêíóò ÷òî ñþäà âñåãäà ëîìèòñÿ êó÷à ïèîíåðîâ, ÷òîá ñïðîñèòü ó âçðîñëûõ ìóçûêàíòîâ ñîâåòà? âîîáùå ïîðà áû óæå ïðèêðåïèòü íàâåðõó ôàê ïî ïîëüçîâàíèþ âåòêîé, èëè òåìó òèïà - íîâè÷åê?-ñþäà! òàì è ðàçúÿñíèòü âñå ïðî ïîåçã è ïðî÷èå âîçìîæíîñòè, è ïðî òî, íà êàêèå âîïðîñû îòâåòîì áóäåò ÿùùü 505 |
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Òåìà: Re: âûáîð ïåäàëè äëÿ Sludge\\Post Metal
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Äà, è ïåðâûì îòâåòîì áóäåò ÷òî íå áûâàåò ïðèìî÷åê äëÿ êàêîãî-òî ñòèëÿ. È íà ëþáîé ïðèìî÷êå èëè ãèòàðå ìîæíî èãðàòü ïðàêòè÷åñêè âñå. ß âîò ñåé÷àñ èãðàþ òîò æå ïîñòìåòàë íà òîì æå îáîðóäîâàíèè, íà êîòîðîì ðàíüøå èãðàë ñêà-ïàíê, èíäàñòðèàë è ðóññêèé ðîã. 
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Òåìà: Re: âûáîð ïåäàëè äëÿ Sludge\\Post Metal
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>Äà, è ïåðâûì îòâåòîì áóäåò ÷òî íå áûâàåò ïðèìî÷åê äëÿ êàêîãî-òî ñòèëÿ. È íà ëþáîé ïðèìî÷êå èëè ãèòàðå ìîæíî èãðàòü ïðàêòè÷åñêè âñå. ß âîò ñåé÷àñ èãðàþ òîò æå ïîñòìåòàë íà òîì æå îáîðóäîâàíèè, íà êîòîðîì ðàíüøå èãðàë ñêà-ïàíê, èíäàñòðèàë è ðóññêèé ðîã. ñ îäíîé ñòîðîíû ïðàâäà, íî âñå òàêè èìåÿ òâèí ðåâåðá è äîïóñòèì áîññ ñä1 âðÿä ëè ñî ñëàäæåì ÷òî-òî ïîëó÷èòñÿ, ñ äðóãîé ñòîðîíû êàê òî ïîäîáíûå àðòèñòû ÷àñòÿò ñ ñàíí, îðàíæ, ìàòàìï ýëåêòðèê è ïðî÷åé êðóïíîçåðíîâîé òåõíèêîé. òàê ÷òî òåíäåíöèÿ êàêàÿ-íèêàêàÿ èìååòñÿ. àôôòàð êàãáý îá ÷åì òî ïîäîáíîì è ñïðàøèâàåò |
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Òåìà: Re: âûáîð ïåäàëè äëÿ Sludge\\Post Metal
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Íó ìíå õâàòàåò ìàôôà è êðûñû äëÿ ïîëó÷åíèÿ âñåãî ñëàäæà, ÷òî ìíå íóæíî Ýòî åñëè ãîâîðèòü î ïðèìî÷êàõ. |
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Òåìà: Re: âûáîð ïåäàëè äëÿ Sludge\\Post Metal
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àôòàð, òû ãëàâíîå òàê íå ïîé  êàê Cult of luna.... ìîæåò ïðàâäà íàäî ñäåëàòü òàêîé ðàçäåë.... íàâåðíÿêà ÿ è ñàì áû ëàçèë... 
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Òåìà: Re: âûáîð ïåäàëè äëÿ Sludge\\Post Metal
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ìåíÿ âûïèñàëè óñìèðèòåëüíîå ðóáàøêî
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>> íåóðîçèñ ýòî âîîáùå îòöû > >àòöû äðèùêîðà? à òû èõ êàãáå ñëûøàë? òî÷íåå âèäåë? ýòè äÿäüêè òàê ñâèðåïî âûãëÿäÿò, ÷òî ñòàíîâèööî ñòðàøíî...  
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Äàìû è ãîñïîäà! Åæѣë³ ñ³ѣ åñòü àêêîðäåîíú-áóäó âûíóæäåíú ïð³íѣñò³ ñâî³ èçâ³íѣí³ÿ.
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Òåìà: Re: âûáîð ïåäàëè äëÿ Sludge\\Post Metal
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>> íåóðîçèñ ýòî âîîáùå îòöû > >àòöû äðèùêîðà? ñêîðåå áîðîäà-êîð  ïî ñàáæó ñîâåòóþ death by audio fuzz war |
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Òåìà: Re: âûáîð ïåäàëè äëÿ Sludge\\Post Metal
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äèñò íå îñîáî ïîäîéäåò äëÿ cult of luna. Ïîïðîáóé ïîèãðàòüñÿ ñ marshall guvnor. Ñàì íà íåì äóì ñ ýëåìåíòàìè ïîñò èãðàþ, íå æàëóþñü 
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Òåìà: Re: âûáîð ïåäàëè äëÿ Sludge\\Post Metal
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àôôòàð âèäèìî çàáûë ïàðîëü 
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Òåìà: Re: âûáîð ïåäàëè äëÿ Sludge\\Post Metal
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Íå ïîíèìàþ õðåí ëè âñå òàê ïîñò-ðîê/ìåòàëë íå ëþáÿò. Òàì, ïî êðàéíåé ìåðå â áîëüøèíñòâå ñëó÷àåâ, óáîãîãî òåêñòà è âîêàëà íåò. | |
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Òåìà: Re: âûáîð ïåäàëè äëÿ Sludge\\Post Metal
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ìåòàëë íå ëþáÿò òû ïèïåö êàê çàáëóæäàåøüñÿ ! íà ýòîì ôîðóìå àööêèõ äýçåðîâ ïîëíî ¸áý ! è êñòàòè ïî ñàáæó - àôôòàð à ìîæåò òåáå ïîñîâåòîâàòü ãèòàðó äëÿ èñïîëíåíèÿ èíäè ? 
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Òåìà: Re: âûáîð ïåäàëè äëÿ Sludge\\Post Metal
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Òóëà Fender Japan Str 850
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aladdinn: î ïîñò-ìåòàëå ðå÷ü øëà. Ëþáèòåëåé äýòõà âåçäå õîòü æîïîé æóé.
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Òåìà: Re: âûáîð ïåäàëè äëÿ Sludge\\Post Metal
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Now_just_Sue ààààà..... òû ïðî ýòî ........ îïÿòü æå ïî÷åìó íå ëþáÿò ? ÿ íàïðèìåð ìîæåò è ïîëþáèë áû íî íå çíàþ êàê îí âûãëÿäèò . ìîæåò ÿ åãî ñëûøàë ñòîïèöîò ðàç íî íå çíàë ÷òî ýòî ïîñò-ìåòàëë 
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Òåìà: Re: âûáîð ïåäàëè äëÿ Sludge\\Post Metal
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>îïÿòü æå ïî÷åìó íå ëþáÿò ? ñëåïîé øòîëå? âòîðîé ïîñò ýòîé òåìû >ìîæåò ÿ åãî ñëûøàë ñòîïèöîò ðàç íî íå çíàë ÷òî ýòî ïîñò-ìåòàëë ãðóïïû óêàçàííûå â ïåðâîì ïîñòå ýòîé òåìû Ïî ñàáæó áåðè H&K tubeman 
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Òåìà: Re: âûáîð ïåäàëè äëÿ Sludge\\Post Metal
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×åëÿáèíñê ÿñåíåâûé ïðåñ êàêîé-òî 
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À ÿ áû âçÿë òîãäà H&K G-36K è ïîñòðóëÿë áû âñåõ
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Òåìà: Re: âûáîð ïåäàëè äëÿ Sludge\\Post Metal
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Òåìà: Re: âûáîð ïåäàëè äëÿ Sludge\\Post Metal
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Òåìà: Re: âûáîð ïåäàëè äëÿ Sludge\\Post Metal
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Òåìà: Re: âûáîð ïåäàëè äëÿ Sludge\\Post Metal
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Òåìà: Re: âûáîð ïåäàëè äëÿ Sludge\\Post Metal
Âðåìÿ: 18.10.2009 12:04 |
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Ìîñêâà Strat, ASAT, SG, Takamine
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íå ðàçáèðàþñü â ìåòàëëàõ.. íî âîò èíòåðåñíàÿ ïåäàëü.. ñ ýëåìåíòàìè îñöèëëÿöèè è ôóçîâîãî õàðàêòåðà â íåêîòîðûõ ìîìåíòàõ)) | |
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Òåìà: Re: âûáîð ïåäàëè äëÿ Sludge\\Post Metal
Âðåìÿ: 18.10.2009 13:26 |
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Ìîñêâà Strat, ASAT, SG, Takamine
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à ýòà ïîñòàíäàðòíåå, íî ñî âñòðîåííûì ñóðîâûì ïëîòíûì øóìîäàâîì äëÿ àäîâîãî óãàðà è êóòåæà. ÿðêàÿ î÷åíü) | |
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Strat, ASAT, SG->Budda-> Cmatmods Signa Comp-> Zendrive->OCD->Fulltone '70 -> MXR Phase 90-> T-Rex Tremster-> RC Booster-> Strymon Brigadier-> Strymon Blue Sky// TS-808->BJFe Folk Fuzz->Wampler Plexi Drive-> Ibanez Flanger->EHX Pulsar->Malekko 616
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Òåìà: Re: âûáîð ïåäàëè äëÿ Sludge\\Post Metal
Âðåìÿ: 19.10.2009 14:00 |
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àâòîðà îáèæàëè âîò îí è óøåë ñóäÿ ïî äåìêå ïåðâàÿ ïåäàëü - mod tone - êëîí ìåòàëçîíû  âòîðàÿ òîæå íå âïå÷àòëèëà. õîòÿ ÿ íàâåðíîå ïðîñòî òåðïåòü íå ìîãó äåìêè ãèðìýíäüþäà à åùå ïî ñàáæó õîðîøàÿ ïåäàëèíà ýòî áîêñ îâ ìåòàëë. òîëüêî íå íà äåìêå îò Ïàïû
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mustang->devi ever TBD->boss ce3->devi ever shoegazer->katanasound thundercloud->murf->hazarai=>lexicon mpx 100-> vacant place
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Òåìà: Re: âûáîð ïåäàëè äëÿ Sludge\\Post Metal
Âðåìÿ: 19.10.2009 14:19 |
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Ìîñêâà Àíàëüíûé Ýêñïîëðåð 
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Only Brutalizer is good enough 
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ß ëþáëþ òåáÿ, êîìàòîçíàÿ ïûëåñîñêà" (ñ)
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Òåìà: Re: âûáîð ïåäàëè äëÿ Sludge\Post Metal
Âðåìÿ: 24.12.2010 17:42 |
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Íèæíèé Íîâãîðîä
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Âîò ñëàäæñòîíåðñêàÿ ñòàíöèÿ. Äåìî -->> |
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Òåìà: Re: âûáîð ïåäàëè äëÿ Sludge\Post Metal
Âðåìÿ: 24.12.2010 17:53 |
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Dezzmon , Ñîçäàë áû îòäåëüíóþ òåìó, ñ íîðìàëüíûì îïèñàíèåì ðàçâ¸ðíóòûì, è áåç ãðîáîêîïàòåëüñòâà.
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Òåìà: Re: âûáîð ïåäàëè äëÿ Sludge\Post Metal
Âðåìÿ: 24.12.2010 19:43 |
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Íèæíèé Íîâãîðîä
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׸ò ÿ ñòóïèë, íå ïîñìîòðåë íà äàòó ïîñëåäíåãî, ïåðåä ìîèì, ïîñòà. Òåìó ñîçäàì
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Òåìà: Re: âûáîð ïåäàëè äëÿ Sludge\Post Metal
Âðåìÿ: 21.04.2011 14:10 |
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5-string bass
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Âñå ÷òî íóæíî äëÿ ñëàäæà - õîðîøèé óñèëîê. Green ïîäîéäåò, ó íèõ äàæå íà îôô. âèäåî ñëàäæ: | |
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Òåìà: Re: âûáîð ïåäàëè äëÿ SludgePost Metal
Âðåìÿ: 21.04.2011 14:25 |
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Ïèòåð
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>ïî ñàáæó ñîâåòóþ death by audio fuzz war áååå |
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Tonechaser - ãèòàðíûå ýôôåêòû!
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Òåìà: Re: âûáîð ïåäàëè äëÿ Sludge\Post Metal
Âðåìÿ: 21.04.2011 15:33 |
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ìîñêâà ïøèûùò 
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Dezzmon â æèâóþ á òàêóþ óñëûøàòü) íà èáåé ïî÷òè 400 ó.å., òàê ÷òî âçÿòü íà ïàðó ÷àñîâ ïîïðîáîâàòü äîðîãîâàòî) |
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Òåìà: Re: âûáîð ïåäàëè äëÿ Sludge\Post Metal
Âðåìÿ: 21.04.2011 15:39 |
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ìîñêâà ïøèûùò
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õàõ, òîëüêî ïîíÿë, ÷òî àâòîð ïåäàëè - òû) | |
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Òåìà: Re: âûáîð ïåäàëè äëÿ Sludge\Post Metal
Âðåìÿ: 23.04.2011 10:23 |
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ëàìïîâàÿ áàëàëàéêà
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Dezzmon, èíòåðåñíûå äåâàéñû ó âàñ. | |
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