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Òåìà: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
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Çàõàðèé Âåêñòåð, ñëàâÿùèéñÿ ñâîèìè áåçóìíûìè, è â òîæå âðåìÿ, î÷åíü ïîïóëÿðíûìè ýôôåêòàìè à-ëÿ áóòèêÚ (ïðîñòèòå, ïîñòàðàþñü èñïîëüçîâàòü ïîïóëÿðíî-ïîøëîå ñëîâî ðåæå). Íàäî çàìåòèòü ÷òî, íåñìîòðÿ íà õîðîøèå PR è èçâåñòíîñòü ïðàêòè÷åñêè êàæäîìó, êòî ïåðåøåë èç ñåêòû ïîêëîíåíèÿ Zoom, íî íå äîøåë äî îñîçíàíèÿ ïðèîáðåòåíèÿ ñåðüåçíîé ëàìïîâîé ãîëîâû â ñòèëå Bogner, Bad Cat, 65 Amp, MESA, Soldano è ïðî÷åå. Ó ìåíÿ áûëè äâà âàðèàíòà äàííîé ïåäàëè – Hand Paint USA, Vexter Series. Îáå äîñòîéíû êàê ìèíèìóì ïîêóïêè ñ öåëüþ îçíàêîìëåíèÿ â òå÷åíèå ïàðû ìåñÿöåâ. Íà÷íåì, ïîæàëóé. Ïëþñû. Ïåäàëü î÷åíü êîìïàêòíàÿ. Ïðè ñâîèõ ñêðîìíûõ ðàçìåðàõ ó íåå äâà ðåæèìà – Booster, Rock. Áóñòåð è Gain øóðøàò, ÷òî, ó÷èòûâàÿ îñîáåííîñòü ñõåìû, íîðìàëüíî (äàáû íå ïîâàäíî áûëî ïèñàòü çëîáíûå îò÷åòû, íàïèñàíî Crackle Okay) Ïåäàëü î÷åíü ãðîìêàÿ! Áóñòåð ìîæåò ñïàëèòü âàø óñèëîê (Çàõàðèé ïðåäóïðåæäàåò!), åñëè âêëþ÷àòü è áóñòåð è äðàéâ – ìàëî íå ïîêàæåòñÿ. Áîëåå òîãî, âû ìîæåòå êîìáèíèðîâàòü è èñïîëüçîâàòü ðåæèìû ýôôåêòà êàê óãîäíî – îòäåëüíî èëè âìåñòå, äîáàâëÿòü ãðîìêîñòè íà ñîëî ïðè ïîìîùè Boost èëè æå íàîáîðîò ïåðåõîäèòü íà Lead ïîñëå ÷èñòîãî çâóêà ïóòåì àêòèâèðîâàíèÿ ðåæèìà Rock – âûáèðàòü Âàì. Íåñîìíåííûé ïëþñ – ïåäàëü î÷åíü äîëãî ðàáîòàåò îò áàòàðåéêè. Ñìûñëà ïðè òàêîì ýíåðãîïîòðåáëåíèè ïîêóïàòü àäàïòåð – ÿ íå âèæó. Ïî ìîèì ïîäñ÷åòàì îíà ðàáîòàåò âòðîå äîëüøå TS-808 Ibanez. Åùå îäèí ïëþñ – øèðîêèé äèàïàçîí Gain – òóò âàì è Crunch è Lead – ñîëî ïîåò, êðàí÷ õðóñòèò – âñå êàê íàäî. Åñòü òîí, êîòîðûé îùóòèìî âëèÿåò íà õàðàêòåð çâóêà – ìîæíî ñäåëàòü áóáíÿùèì, à ìîæíî è ðåæóùèì ñëóõ. Âñå ñóïåð! Ïî÷òè… Ïåðâûé óäàð èäåò ïî âàøåìó êîøåëüêó. Íà ìîìåíò íàïèñàíèå ñòàòüè íîâûå ýôôåêòû îáîéäóòñÿ âàì â áîëåå 200 (Vexter) è 320 (USA) àìåðèêàíñêèõ ìåðòâûõ ïðåçèäåíòîâ ñîîòâåòñòâåííî. Ïðèçíàòüñÿ çà òàêèå äåíüãè ëþäè ñîáèðàþò Pedal Board. Âòîðîå – õàðàêòåð çâóêà – ñðàçó ñêàæó, íåñìîòðÿ íà âñþ êðàñîòó è çàïàñû ãåéíà, âñåì ëþáèìîãî «äæ-äæ-äæ» íå ïîëó÷èòñÿ. Òî÷íåå ïîëó÷èòñÿ, íî áåç ôàíàòèçìà. Èíûìè ñëîâàìè – áåðåòå äëÿ ñîëî, ãðÿçíîãî ÷åñà è ïðî÷åå – ñàìîå îíî. Áåðåòå äëÿ ðóáêè è íàðåçàíèÿ – õîòÿ áû õåâè íîâîé øêîëû – âàì íå ñþäà. Áðóòàë äåòõÚ ïëà÷åò, âûòèðàåò ñîïëè, è èäåò ïîêóïàòü MT-2. Òðåòüå – ïåäàëü êàïðèçíà. Îíà íå çâó÷èò âñåãäà, òàê êàê äîëæíà è êàê îò íåå æäåøü. Ñ ëàìïîâûìè óñèëèòåëÿìè âñå äîñòîéíî, à âîò òðàíçèòîðíûå êîìáî â ñèìáèîçå îãîð÷àþò. Ïðîáîâàë ëè÷íî – ìíîãî ðàçî÷àðîâàíèÿ. Ñïàñàåò äîìàøíèé ëàìïîâûé êîìáî à êëóáû ñ íîðìàëüíûì àïïàðàòîì. ×åòâåðòîå – PR. Àìåðèêà ñòðàíà êîíòðàñòîâ. Çàéäèòå íà ñàéò ïî÷èòàéòå: “Box of Rock – Marshall in a box!” Ðàäóåò ÷òî ïåäàëü ñîçäàíà ïî õàðàêòåðó çâóêà Marshall JTM 45. Âñå çäîðîâî ïîêà íå ïîñëóøàåøü Marshall JTM-45. Îïûò ïîêàçûâàåò, ÷òî Ìàðøàëë îáû÷íî èäåò â êîðîáêå îò Ìàðøàëëà.  èòîãå – õîðîøèé çâóê, îâåðäðàéâ è áóñòåð â îäíîì, äîëãî ïàøåò îò áàòàðåéêè, êàïðèçíûé ñ óñèëèòåëÿìè, íåðåàëüíàÿ öåíà. Ðàáî÷àÿ ëîøàäêà äëÿ áîãàòûõ è ïðîäâèíóòûõ. |
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 13.05.2009 13:21 |
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Çäðàâñòâóéòå. Âà îòðåäàêòèðîâàí ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Áîêñ îô ðîê èñêëþ÷èòåëüíî õîðîø åùå ñ ðàçíûìè áàíêàìè ïîëóáàíêàìè ñåé÷àñ îæèäàåòñÿ áþäæåòíàÿ âåðñèÿ box of rock íàçûâàåòñÿ distortron ó íàñ áóäåò ãäå-òî â êîíöå ìàÿ â íà÷àëå èþíÿ |
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 13.05.2009 13:25 |
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Ìîñêâà Strat, ASAT, SG, Takamine ![]() ![]() |
Àíòîõ, îñíîâíîå íåñîãëàñèå ñ ïåäàëüþ, òàêèì îáðàçîì - â òîì, ÷òî îíà íå çâó÷èò â òðàíçèñòîðû è äîðîãî ñòîèò? | |
Strat, ASAT, SG->Budda-> Cmatmods Signa Comp-> Zendrive->OCD->Fulltone '70 -> MXR Phase 90-> T-Rex Tremster-> RC Booster-> Strymon Brigadier-> Strymon Blue Sky// TS-808->BJFe Folk Fuzz->Wampler Plexi Drive-> Ibanez Flanger->EHX Pulsar->Malekko 616
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 13.05.2009 13:27 |
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Ìîñêâà Guitar Brilliance & Improvisation Mastery ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Gustaw, ììì ïî öåíå ÿ ïðèêèíóë è âïðÿìü äîðîãîâàòî - äàæå çà Âåêñòåð, à ïî ïîâîäó òðàíçèñòîðîâ Èãðàë â Kustom, Roland, Behringer, Marshall. Íå íðàâèëîñü - íå òàê êàê-òî, ÷åãî-òî íå õâàòàåò. Äà è òîí ïîëó÷àåòñÿ ðåçêîâàò - êàê ÿ è ïèñàë... |
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 13.05.2009 13:41 |
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Ìîñêâà Strat, ASAT, SG, Takamine ![]() ![]() |
äà. öåíà ñîâåðøåííî íåãóìàííàÿ, âåðíî. Íî äóìàåòñÿ, åãî äåëàëè äëÿ èãðàíèÿ â åäèíñòâåííî ïðèåìëèìûé âàðèàíò - â ëàìïîâûå óñèëèòåëè, ïîòîìó îí, êàê ìíîãèå ïåäàëè, íå çâó÷èò òîëêîì â òðàíç. Íó òàê îí æå - Êîðîáêà Ðîêà, òî åñòü ðàáîòàåò ïî ñõåìå "Ãèáñîí â Ìàðøàëë è âïåðåä!")) | |
Strat, ASAT, SG->Budda-> Cmatmods Signa Comp-> Zendrive->OCD->Fulltone '70 -> MXR Phase 90-> T-Rex Tremster-> RC Booster-> Strymon Brigadier-> Strymon Blue Sky// TS-808->BJFe Folk Fuzz->Wampler Plexi Drive-> Ibanez Flanger->EHX Pulsar->Malekko 616
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 13.05.2009 13:43 |
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Moskwah-wah-wah Äâà ![]() ![]() ![]() |
î÷åíü ñòðàííî ÿ èñïîëüçîâàë áîêñ îô ðîê áîëåå ãîäà íà ðàçíûõ áàçàõ è ÷òî õàðàêòåðíî íà ðàçíûõ ïëîùàäêàõ è âåçäå îò òâèíà íà ãîâíîìàðøîëà îí ïîêàçûâàë ñâîé õàðàêòåð è îòëè÷íî çâó÷àë ó ìåíÿ áûë õýíäïýéíòåä åñëè ÷òî |
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 13.05.2009 13:46 |
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Ìîñêâà Strat, ASAT, SG, Takamine ![]() ![]() |
Jimmy_Budweiser, à ÷å ïðîäàë òîãäà?:) | |
Strat, ASAT, SG->Budda-> Cmatmods Signa Comp-> Zendrive->OCD->Fulltone '70 -> MXR Phase 90-> T-Rex Tremster-> RC Booster-> Strymon Brigadier-> Strymon Blue Sky// TS-808->BJFe Folk Fuzz->Wampler Plexi Drive-> Ibanez Flanger->EHX Pulsar->Malekko 616
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 13.05.2009 13:54 |
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Çäðàâñòâóéòå. Âà îòðåäàêòèðîâàí ![]() ![]() ![]() |
distortron áóäåò ñóùåñòâåííî íèæå âåêñòåðà ïî öåíå ñ òîé æå èäååé çâóêà ìû åãî ïîëó÷èì â íà÷àëå èþíå Çâóê è âèäåî çäåñü |
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 13.05.2009 14:11 |
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Ìîñêâà Guitar Brilliance & Improvisation Mastery ![]() ![]() ![]() |
ïîñìîòðåë ýòîò Distortron - ñòîèò 150 áàêîâ. Ñàì ïî ñåáå.Çâó÷èò âðîäå íåïëîõî. Íè÷åãî áîëåå ñêàçàòü íå ìîãó - â ðóêàõ íå äåðæàë. | |
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 13.05.2009 14:21 |
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Moskwah-wah-wah Äâà ![]() ![]() ![]() |
>Jimmy_Budweiser, à ÷å ïðîäàë òîãäà?:) äà ÿ ìîæåò îïÿòü êóïëþ ![]() |
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 13.05.2009 14:23 |
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Moskwah-wah-wah Äâà ![]() ![]() ![]() |
íà ñàìîì äåëå åñëè â ïîëíîñòüþ çàáèòûé áîðä ñòàâèøü áîêñ îô ðîê òî èç-çà åãî êîðïóñà ïîòîì ñëîæíî ñìåíèòü åãî íà äðóãîé äèñò â ñòàíäàðòíîì êîðïóñå - ïðèõîäèòñÿ ïîëäîñêè ïåðåëîïà÷èâàòü | |
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 13.05.2009 14:27 |
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Ïèòåð![]() ![]() ![]() |
Äèñòîðòîí ýòî êîïèÿ ÁÎÐà, òîëüêî áåç áóñòà, ñ äâóìÿ ðåæèìàìè ãåéíà è òóìáëåðîì, îòâå÷àþùèì çà íèçêèå ÷àñòîòû. Íî, êàê ïîêàçûâàþò ìíîãî÷èñëåííûå òåñòû, ïî çâóêó âñ¸-òàêè âûèãðûâàåò DLS. ![]() Ðàç óæ âñå ïèàðÿòñÿ...  Ïèòåðå ïî ýòèì ïåäàëüêàì îáðàùàòüñÿ ìîæíî êî ìíå. ![]() |
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Tonechaser - ãèòàðíûå ýôôåêòû!
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 13.05.2009 14:30 |
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Ìîñêâà Guitar Brilliance & Improvisation Mastery ![]() ![]() ![]() |
äà êñòàòè - çà ïåàð äåíüãè ìíå íà ñ÷åò ïëèç - à òî âñå ðàñïèàðèëèñü òóòà =) êîíòàêòû â ïðîôèëå ïî ïîâîäó ïðîöåíòà îòñòåæêè ïîãîâîðèì â ëè÷êå ;). Jimmy_Budweiser, ìàäõàíè íå ïîïåð? ìíå Gustaw ðàññêàçûâàë òû âïðîäå ñìåíÿë åãî íà áîð êàê ðàç. |
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 13.05.2009 14:34 |
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Moskwah-wah-wah Äâà ![]() ![]() ![]() |
ýòî òàê íî ìàäõàíè â òðàçèñòîð çâó÷àë óæàñíî à ÿ íà áàçå èãðàþ ÷àùå ÷åì äîìà ![]() |
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 13.05.2009 14:39 |
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Moskwah-wah-wah Äâà ![]() ![]() ![]() |
ñåé÷àñ ó ìåíÿ âàðèàöèÿ íà òåìó äèñòîðøí ïëþñ áóñòåð â âèäå xotic BB è RC | |
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 13.05.2009 14:41 |
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Ìîñêâà Guitar Brilliance & Improvisation Mastery ![]() ![]() ![]() |
à ÿ ùà ïðóñü îò äâóõ TS 808 ïîñëåäîâàòåëüíî =) | |
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 13.05.2009 14:50 |
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Çäðàâñòâóéòå. Âà îòðåäàêòèðîâàí ![]() ![]() ![]() |
à ÿ íå îò ÷åãî íå ïðóñü âñå äîñòàëî (øóòêà) | |
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 13.05.2009 14:52 |
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Ìîñêâà Strat, ASAT, SG, Takamine ![]() ![]() |
D7, ýòî óæå ïðîôåññèîíàëüíàÿ äåôîðìàöèÿ... ))) | |
Strat, ASAT, SG->Budda-> Cmatmods Signa Comp-> Zendrive->OCD->Fulltone '70 -> MXR Phase 90-> T-Rex Tremster-> RC Booster-> Strymon Brigadier-> Strymon Blue Sky// TS-808->BJFe Folk Fuzz->Wampler Plexi Drive-> Ibanez Flanger->EHX Pulsar->Malekko 616
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 13.05.2009 15:00 |
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Ìîñêâà Guitar Brilliance & Improvisation Mastery ![]() ![]() ![]() |
D7, ïà÷êà ôåíîçèïàìà âåðíåò ðàäîñòü æèçíè =))) | |
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 13.05.2009 15:01 |
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Çäðàâñòâóéòå. Âà îòðåäàêòèðîâàí ![]() ![]() ![]() |
ïðîôåññèîíàëüíàÿ äåôîðìàöèÿ - ýòî ìûñëè ÷åðåç äèñòîðøí êñòàòè îäèí (íåáåçûçâåñòíûé) ÷åëîâåê ïðèíåñ ñâîé ïåäàëáîðä íå ìàëåíüêèé âêëþ÷èë âñå ïåäàëè îäíîâðåìåííî è ïîäêëþ÷èë âûáðàííóþ ïðèìî÷êó ÿ ñïðîñèë åãî çà÷åì îí òàê ïîñòóïàåò îí ñêàçàë ÷òîáû óáåäèòüñÿ ÷òî íè÷åãî øóìåòü íå áóäåò åñëè ñëó÷àéíî áóäåò âñå âêëþ÷åíî |
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 13.05.2009 15:04 |
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Ìîñêâà Guitar Brilliance & Improvisation Mastery ![]() ![]() ![]() |
è òàêîå áûâàåò... íàäî áûëî ñíèìàòü íà êàìåðó è ïîñòèòü â ðàçäåë þìîð | |
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 13.05.2009 15:10 |
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Byzantium Fender/Vigier guitars Marshall amps/cabs TN Torpedo Live ![]() ![]() |
>ïðîôåññèîíàëüíàÿ äåôîðìàöèÿ - ýòî ìûñëè ÷åðåç äèñòîðøí > >êñòàòè îäèí (íåáåçûçâåñòíûé) ÷åëîâåê ïðèíåñ ñâîé ïåäàëáîðä íå ìàëåíüêèé âêëþ÷èë âñå ïåäàëè îäíîâðåìåííî è ïîäêëþ÷èë âûáðàííóþ ïðèìî÷êó >ÿ ñïðîñèë åãî çà÷åì îí òàê ïîñòóïàåò îí ñêàçàë ÷òîáû óáåäèòüñÿ ÷òî íè÷åãî øóìåòü íå áóäåò åñëè ñëó÷àéíî áóäåò âñå âêëþ÷åíî ...ñèëüíî... èìÿ ÷åëîâå÷êà â ñòóäèþ... ![]() |
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...Βυζαντινή Ρωμαίοι εδω ... Φαειτ τα σκαταμ.
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 13.05.2009 15:33 |
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Ìîñêâà Strat, ASAT, SG, Takamine ![]() ![]() |
>èìÿ ÷åëîâå÷êà â ñòóäèþ... äà, ïðîñòî èíòåðåñíî, áåç îñóæäåíèÿ, íàñìåøåê è âñåãî òàêîãî)) |
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Strat, ASAT, SG->Budda-> Cmatmods Signa Comp-> Zendrive->OCD->Fulltone '70 -> MXR Phase 90-> T-Rex Tremster-> RC Booster-> Strymon Brigadier-> Strymon Blue Sky// TS-808->BJFe Folk Fuzz->Wampler Plexi Drive-> Ibanez Flanger->EHX Pulsar->Malekko 616
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 13.05.2009 15:38 |
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Çäðàâñòâóéòå. Âà îòðåäàêòèðîâàí ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Þðà | |
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 13.05.2009 15:39 |
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Ìîñêâà Strat, ASAT, SG, Takamine ![]() ![]() |
Êàñïàðÿí?! ![]() |
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Strat, ASAT, SG->Budda-> Cmatmods Signa Comp-> Zendrive->OCD->Fulltone '70 -> MXR Phase 90-> T-Rex Tremster-> RC Booster-> Strymon Brigadier-> Strymon Blue Sky// TS-808->BJFe Folk Fuzz->Wampler Plexi Drive-> Ibanez Flanger->EHX Pulsar->Malekko 616
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 13.05.2009 15:59 |
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Ìîñêâà SD Custom Guitar ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Papa, à êàê æå âèäåî? | |
Ýòî ñåé÷àñ âñå ïî íàðîøêè. À ðàíüøå. Êàê æèëè òàê è èãðàëè.
http://vk.com/ivandeus http://www.youtube.com/c/Deussoftwebru |
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 13.05.2009 16:11 |
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Byzantium Fender/Vigier guitars Marshall amps/cabs TN Torpedo Live ![]() ![]() |
>>èìÿ ÷åëîâå÷êà â ñòóäèþ... >äà, ïðîñòî èíòåðåñíî, >áåç îñóæäåíèÿ, íàñìåøåê è âñåãî òàêîãî)) íó, íåò óæ - áåç ýòîãî íå ïîëó÷èòñÿ... ![]() |
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 13.05.2009 16:11 |
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Çäðàâñòâóéòå. Âà îòðåäàêòèðîâàí ![]() ![]() ![]() |
äåëî â òîì, ÷òî ïî÷òè êàæäîãî âòîðîãî ãèòàðèñòà çîâóò Þðà ïî÷åìó-òî... | |
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 13.05.2009 16:16 |
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Ìîñêâà Guitar Brilliance & Improvisation Mastery ![]() ![]() ![]() |
deus-softweb-ru, âèäåî åñëè áóäåò âðåìÿ è ïåäàëü íå çàáóðóò =) | |
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 13.05.2009 16:16 |
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Byzantium Fender/Vigier guitars Marshall amps/cabs TN Torpedo Live ![]() ![]() |
>äåëî â òîì, ÷òî ïî÷òè êàæäîãî âòîðîãî ãèòàðèñòà çîâóò Þðà ïî÷åìó-òî... íå ïðàâäà ýòî....... ![]() |
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 13.05.2009 23:29 |
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Ìîñêâà Guitar Brilliance & Improvisation Mastery ![]() ![]() ![]() |
G.A., êñòàòè äà ![]() |
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 14.05.2009 00:45 |
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Çäðàâñòâóéòå. Âà îòðåäàêòèðîâàí ![]() ![]() ![]() |
íó ïîäóìàåøü äâà ÷åëîâåêà ñ äðóãèì èìåíåì... ýòî íå ëîìàåò òåíäåíöèþ, à íàîáîðîò å¸ óñóãóáëÿåò... ñ ãðóïïàìè òà æå áåäà, âçÿòü ê ïðèìåðó - þðà õèï... |
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 14.05.2009 09:42 |
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Ìîñêâà Strat, ASAT, SG, Takamine ![]() ![]() |
äà è ñ ïåñíÿìè.. þðà - ìàé äýñòèíè, þðà èí çå àðìè íàó..þðà - ïåðñîíàë Äæèçàñ... |
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Strat, ASAT, SG->Budda-> Cmatmods Signa Comp-> Zendrive->OCD->Fulltone '70 -> MXR Phase 90-> T-Rex Tremster-> RC Booster-> Strymon Brigadier-> Strymon Blue Sky// TS-808->BJFe Folk Fuzz->Wampler Plexi Drive-> Ibanez Flanger->EHX Pulsar->Malekko 616
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 14.05.2009 10:02 |
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Ìîñêâà Guitar Brilliance & Improvisation Mastery ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Gustaw, ææåøü =))âàëÿþñü | |
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 14.05.2009 10:09 |
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Byzantium Fender/Vigier guitars Marshall amps/cabs TN Torpedo Live ![]() ![]() |
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 14.05.2009 10:10 |
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Byzantium Fender/Vigier guitars Marshall amps/cabs TN Torpedo Live ![]() ![]() |
ñîáðàëèñü.....îäèí äðóãîãî ëó÷øå.... ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 14.05.2009 11:21 |
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Moskwah-wah-wah Äâà ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 14.05.2009 11:23 |
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Ìîñêâà Guitar Brilliance & Improvisation Mastery ![]() ![]() ![]() |
âîîáùå ìîæíî êèíî ñíèìàòü - â ñòèëå American\\English Humor - íàçâàíèÿ òî êàêèå êðàñèâûå Gustaw íàêîëáàñèë... =)![]() |
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 14.05.2009 12:12 |
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Êðåìåí÷óã Les Paul custom ![]() ![]() ![]() |
À ìíå ÷¸òî ïîíðàâèëñÿ òîêî áóñòåð, äîáàâëÿåò òåëà â çâóê, íèæíåé ñåðåäèíû, à ðåæèì äðàéâà êàêîé-òî ðåçêèé, âåðõíÿÿ ñåðåäèíà ïð¸ò, õîòÿ íà äåìî ñ îô. ñàéòà çâó÷èò îòëè÷íî. | |
Ìîë÷àíèå-çîëîòî, è õîðîøàÿ ìóçûêà òîæå!
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 14.05.2009 12:32 |
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Ìîñêâà õâîñòú äà êîõãòè ![]() ![]() ![]() |
âû ÷å?! à êàê æå þðà ìàé õàðò, þðà ìàé ñîóë?... ![]() |
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Cat + Techno music + Extasy
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 14.05.2009 12:35 |
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Byzantium Fender/Vigier guitars Marshall amps/cabs TN Torpedo Live ![]() ![]() |
>âû ÷å?! à êàê æå þðà ìàé õàðò, þðà ìàé ñîóë?... â íàøåì ïîëêó ïîïîëíåíèå... ![]() ![]() |
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 14.05.2009 12:42 |
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íó ÷òî óáåäèëèñü òåïåðü ÷òî þðà ýòî íå ñëó÷àéíîå èìÿ â ìóçûêå? | |
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 14.05.2009 12:43 |
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Ìîñêâà Guitar Brilliance & Improvisation Mastery ![]() ![]() ![]() |
ïîøëè êðåàòèâû... ![]() |
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 14.05.2009 19:17 |
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Ìåäâåïóòèíñê Microkorg XL ![]() ![]() ![]() |
ñõåìêî îáñóæäåíèå: öèòàòî: "Hi friends One mistake? with the Box Of Crock schematic ![]() The 10n on the tone control should be 100n ![]() Otherwise everything from the drain of the third mosfet to the output would not be the same as the BSIABII ![]() ![]() Did you spot the Marshall circuit snippet in there :?: ![]() (470k parallelled with 470pf) a treble boosting filter used by Jim before the great Z was probably born ![]() ![]() Back to the Future again AG ![]() Okay then - what is this last mosfet gain stage? Is it - no it can't be... but..... yes - it is another SHO stage ![]() ![]() Cheers Steve ps: I wonder if he paid any royalties to Ed Guidry and his designer friends for DIRECTLY copying there tone control and output filter design ![]() àíàëîããóðó íå ïðîñòî òàê ïûòàþöà ïîñàäèòü 8) |
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- Êîíöåðò Ñòàñà Ìèõàéëîâà â Ìóðìàíñêå îòìåí¸í èç-çà îòñóòñòâèÿ çðèòåëåé
- Ïîõîæå, Ìóðìàíñêó ïîðà ïðèñâàèâàòü çâàíèå Êóëüòóðíîé Ñòîëèöû Ðîññèè. www.shift-line.com |
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 14.05.2009 19:42 |
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Ìåäâåïóòèíñê Microkorg XL ![]() ![]() ![]() |
à âîò êîìåíòû ñàìîãî âåêñà, íàïîðæàòü ![]() À ðàç ïîøëà òàêàÿ ïüÿíêà, âîò ïðîòîêîë âñêðûòèÿ Super Hard On åñëè _ýòî_ áóòèê , òî îòå÷åñòâåííûé âèêòîðêàñòîì âàùå êàðë ôàáåðæå ![]() âîò ñõåìêî, ìàëî ëè - ïðèãîäèòñÿ |
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- Êîíöåðò Ñòàñà Ìèõàéëîâà â Ìóðìàíñêå îòìåí¸í èç-çà îòñóòñòâèÿ çðèòåëåé
- Ïîõîæå, Ìóðìàíñêó ïîðà ïðèñâàèâàòü çâàíèå Êóëüòóðíîé Ñòîëèöû Ðîññèè. www.shift-line.com |
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 14.05.2009 20:00 |
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>, òî îòå÷åñòâåííûé âèêòîðêàñòîì âàùå êàðë ôàáåðæå òîò õîòü ïëàòó ïîòðóäèëñÿ âûòðàâèòü. > >âîò ñõåìêî, ìàëî ëè - ïðèãîäèòñÿ Íàõðåíà âûòðàâëèâàòü ïëàòó äëÿ 9 äåòàëåé ![]() |
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 14.05.2009 20:03 |
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Ìåäâåïóòèíñê Microkorg XL ![]() ![]() ![]() |
>>, òî îòå÷åñòâåííûé âèêòîðêàñòîì âàùå êàðë ôàáåðæå òîò õîòü ïëàòó ïîòðóäèëñÿ âûòðàâèòü. >> >>âîò ñõåìêî, ìàëî ëè - ïðèãîäèòñÿ >Íàõðåíà âûòðàâëèâàòü ïëàòó äëÿ 9 äåòàëåé ß áû òàêóþ íàâåñîì áû ñäåëàë äà òû èçâåñòíûé áóòèê, ÿ ïîñìîòðþ 8)) à ïîòîì áû íàíÿë õóäîæíèêà íà ðîñïèñü êîðïóñà (à êîðïóñ ðàñïèñûâàòü âðó÷íóþ íåçàïàäëî?) è ïðîäàâàë çà 200 áà÷åé ![]() |
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- Êîíöåðò Ñòàñà Ìèõàéëîâà â Ìóðìàíñêå îòìåí¸í èç-çà îòñóòñòâèÿ çðèòåëåé
- Ïîõîæå, Ìóðìàíñêó ïîðà ïðèñâàèâàòü çâàíèå Êóëüòóðíîé Ñòîëèöû Ðîññèè. www.shift-line.com |
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 14.05.2009 20:13 |
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>äà òû èçâåñòíûé áóòèê, ÿ ïîñìîòðþ 8)) à ïîòîì áû íàíÿë õóäîæíèêà íà ðîñïèñü êîðïóñà (à êîðïóñ ðàñïèñûâàòü âðó÷íóþ íåçàïàäëî?) è ïðîäàâàë çà 200 áà÷åé Íó ðàñ òàê... ß æå ïðîäàâàòü ïîêà íè ÷åãî íå ñîáèðàþñü Äëÿ ñåáÿ ìîæíî âîîáùå áåç êîðïóñà. ![]() |
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 15.05.2009 01:19 |
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Ëåíèíãðàä blaster ![]() ![]() ![]() |
ñìåøíî òî ñìåøíî, íî ïîêà íè÷åãî óðîâíÿ çâåêñ, êîïèëîò ýôèêñ èëè 4ìñ íàïðèìåð â ðîññèè íå ñëûøàë. ïðàâèëüíî îíè ñòîêà äåðóò äîëëàðîâ è òàê äåðæàòü. | |
mustang->devi ever TBD->boss ce3->devi ever shoegazer->katanasound thundercloud->murf->hazarai=>lexicon mpx 100-> vacant place
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 15.05.2009 06:58 |
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Çäðàâñòâóéòå. Âà îòðåäàêòèðîâàí ![]() ![]() ![]() |
òåðìèí áóòèêîâûé êàñàòåëüíî ïðèìî÷åê îáîçíà÷àåò íå ôàáåðæå, à íåáîëüøóþ ñåðèþ... ñàìîå ãëàâíîå çâóê - ñ íèì ëàæè íåò... äëÿ ëþáèòåëåé ñëóøàòü ãëàçàìè è íèêîãäà óøàìè òàêèå ôîòîãðàôèèè âîçìîæíî è ïðèêîë... òåì íå ìåíåå èíòåðåñ ê ðàáîòàì çàõàðèÿ íå ñíèæàåòñÿ ... ñêîðåå âñåãî íå áåç îñíîâàíèÿ ó åãî èçäåëèé äîâîëüíî ìíîãî ñåðüåçíûõ ïîëüçîâàòåëåé Áèëëè Ãèááîíñ, Ìýòò Áýëëàìè, Òðåíò Ðåçíîð, Âåðíîí Ðåéä è ò.ï. Ëþäè çàðàáàòûâàþò ñâîèì çâóêîì íå òîëüêî èçâåñòíîñòü íî è äåíüãè... Äåíüãè ëàæè íå òåðïÿò... Ïîýòîìó ïîèñê äåøåâîé ñåíñàöèè òàì ãäå åå íå - ýòî ñêîðåå ñïîñîá ïðèâëå÷ü âíèìàíèå ê ñåáå... Êñòàòè êòî èç êðèòèêîâ ñäåëàë ÷òî-íèáóäü ïîäîáíîå... ×òîáû íå òîëüêî ïî çâóêó áûëî ÷òî-òî íîðìàëüíîå íî è êó÷à àðòèñòîâ èãðàëà... Ïðèçíàíèå îäíèõ ëþäåé äðóãèìè ÷àñòî âîñïðèèíìàåòñÿ áîëåçíåííî íå ïîëó÷èâøèìè åãî... |
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 15.05.2009 12:10 |
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Ïèòåð![]() ![]() ![]() |
Ïîë-èíòåðíåòà çàáèòî êëîíàìè Çâåêñîâñêèõ ïåäàëåé (â 2, 3, 4 ðàçà äåøåâëå). À ëþäè âñ¸ ðàâíî ïîêóïàþò Çâåêñ. È áóäóò ïîêóïàòü. È ïðàâèëüíî. Õîòü îí è áîëüøàÿ çàäíèöà ![]() |
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Tonechaser - ãèòàðíûå ýôôåêòû!
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 15.05.2009 12:43 |
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Moskwah-wah-wah Äâà ![]() ![]() ![]() |
íó ìîæåò âñå è êîïèðóþò ôô íî âîò êëîíà áîð ÿ ÷òî-òî íå âèäåë | |
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 15.05.2009 13:04 |
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Çäðàâñòâóéòå. Âà îòðåäàêòèðîâàí ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Zvex ñàì âûïóñòèë ñîáñòâåííûé êëîí Vexter box of rock.... îí íàçûâàåòñÿ Distortron è áóäåò ñòîèòü çíà÷èòåëüíî äåøåâëå âåêñòåðà... Òàê ÷òî ÷óâàê ñóäÿ ïî âñåìó åùå ïîáüåòñÿ ñ êîïèðîâàòåëÿìè | |
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 15.05.2009 13:37 |
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Moskwah-wah-wah Äâà ![]() ![]() ![]() |
äà âñ¸ ðàâíî íå óäîáíûé êîðïóñ âñ¸ äîëæíî áûòü êàê ó mxr ![]() |
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 15.05.2009 13:42 |
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Ìîñêâà Guitar Brilliance & Improvisation Mastery ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Jimmy_Budweiser, à ãíåçäî äëÿ áàòàðåéêè êàê ó TS-808 -çàäîëáàëñÿ êðóòèòü âèíòû! ![]() |
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 15.05.2009 13:48 |
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Moskwah-wah-wah Äâà ![]() ![]() ![]() |
èñòèíà ![]() |
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 15.05.2009 14:21 |
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Ìîñêâà Strat, ASAT, SG, Takamine ![]() ![]() |
ãíåçäî êàê ó ÄÎÄà - ÷òîá íå ñíèìàÿ ñ ëèïó÷êè áîðäà - ìåíÿòü áàòàðåéêè)) | |
Strat, ASAT, SG->Budda-> Cmatmods Signa Comp-> Zendrive->OCD->Fulltone '70 -> MXR Phase 90-> T-Rex Tremster-> RC Booster-> Strymon Brigadier-> Strymon Blue Sky// TS-808->BJFe Folk Fuzz->Wampler Plexi Drive-> Ibanez Flanger->EHX Pulsar->Malekko 616
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 15.05.2009 14:24 |
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Ìîñêâà Guitar Brilliance & Improvisation Mastery ![]() ![]() ![]() |
óÄÎÄ? =)) äà êñòàòè - òû ìíå ïîêàçûâàë ÿ ñîâñåì çàáûë ÷òî åñòü ðåøåíèÿ ëó÷øå | |
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 15.05.2009 14:31 |
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Ìîñêâà Strat, ASAT, SG, Takamine ![]() ![]() |
ãíåçäî óäîäà?:)))))))) | |
Strat, ASAT, SG->Budda-> Cmatmods Signa Comp-> Zendrive->OCD->Fulltone '70 -> MXR Phase 90-> T-Rex Tremster-> RC Booster-> Strymon Brigadier-> Strymon Blue Sky// TS-808->BJFe Folk Fuzz->Wampler Plexi Drive-> Ibanez Flanger->EHX Pulsar->Malekko 616
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 15.05.2009 15:26 |
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>Áðóòàë äåòõÚ ïëà÷åò, âûòèðàåò ñîïëè, è èäåò ïîêóïàòü MT-2.![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 15.05.2009 21:38 |
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Ìåäâåïóòèíñê Microkorg XL ![]() ![]() ![]() |
èç êðèòèêîâ ñäåëàë, à èç ìåñòíûõ ïðîäàâöîâ êòî-íèòü ïðîäàë ÷òî-òî èç ýòîé ëèíåéêè òåì ëþäÿì â ñïèñî÷êå, ðàç óæ íà ëè÷íîñòè ñîáðàëèñü ïåðåéòè? ![]() ñêàæó, ÷òî àíàëîãìåíû è âóäó ëàáû è ò.ï. íå âûçûâàþò ëè÷íî ó ìåíÿ íåäîðàçóìåíèé, òàì íàðîä ïàøåò âî èñòèíó, è ÷åñòíî ãîâîðèò, ÷òî óëó÷øåíî è ñ ÷åãî ñîäðàíî. äàæå éåðàñîâ ýòî íåñêðûâàåò, è äîðàáîòêè, è ñâîè óçëû ó íåãî íåïëîõèå. |
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- Êîíöåðò Ñòàñà Ìèõàéëîâà â Ìóðìàíñêå îòìåí¸í èç-çà îòñóòñòâèÿ çðèòåëåé
- Ïîõîæå, Ìóðìàíñêó ïîðà ïðèñâàèâàòü çâàíèå Êóëüòóðíîé Ñòîëèöû Ðîññèè. www.shift-line.com |
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 16.05.2009 07:15 |
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Çäðàâñòâóéòå. Âà îòðåäàêòèðîâàí ![]() ![]() ![]() |
ìû íå ïðåäëàãàåì çàðóáåæíûì èñïîëíèòåëÿì ïðèìî÷êè äëÿ ýòîãî òàì åñòü ñâîè äèëåðû äèñòðèáüþòîðû è ò.ï. íî ñ íåêîòîðûìè èñïîëíèòåëÿìè è èçâåñòíûìè ëè÷íîñòÿìè ñëó÷àåòñÿ è ïîîîáùàòüñÿ... íàøè âèäîñû îáû÷íî ðàçìåùàþòñÿ íà þ-òüþáå -êàíàë ïîëüçîâàòåëÿ yoggguuurt... | |
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 16.05.2009 18:31 |
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Ìåäâåïóòèíñê Microkorg XL ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Rock'n'roll áèçíåñ â ðîññèè îòñóòñòâóåò, â ïèòåðå îí äàæå íå â êóñòàðíîé, à â äîêóñòàðíîì ñîñòîÿíèè (â ìñê âðîäè ÷óòü ëó÷øå, íî âñåðàâíî...), ïî ýòîìó ïåðåíîñèòü ðàçãîâîð íà íàøè ðåàëèè äåëî ãèáëîå. | |
- Êîíöåðò Ñòàñà Ìèõàéëîâà â Ìóðìàíñêå îòìåí¸í èç-çà îòñóòñòâèÿ çðèòåëåé
- Ïîõîæå, Ìóðìàíñêó ïîðà ïðèñâàèâàòü çâàíèå Êóëüòóðíîé Ñòîëèöû Ðîññèè. www.shift-line.com |
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 17.05.2009 00:22 |
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Çäðàâñòâóéòå. Âà îòðåäàêòèðîâàí ![]() ![]() ![]() |
ìíå ïî÷åìó-òî êàæåòñÿ è ñâîèìè ðåàëèÿìè ïðîæèâåì... ïîñòåïåííî âñå îáðàçóåòñÿ |
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 17.05.2009 00:31 |
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>Ïîë-èíòåðíåòà çàáèòî êëîíàìè Çâåêñîâñêèõ ïåäàëåé (â 2, 3, 4 ðàçà äåøåâëå). À íàçâàíèÿ ìîæíî? |
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 17.05.2009 08:23 |
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Çäðàâñòâóéòå. Âà îòðåäàêòèðîâàí ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 17.05.2009 12:28 |
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Moskwah-wah-wah Äâà ![]() ![]() ![]() |
>Zvex ñàì âûïóñòèë ñîáñòâåííûé êëîí Vexter box of rock.. äà íå íó ãîâîðÿò æå ÷òî ñåòü çàáèòà êëîíàìè âîò ãäå ìíå âçÿòü êëîí áîêñ îô ðîêà íå îò çâåêñà? íàâåðíÿêà òàì è êîðïóñ äðóãîé è óäîáíåå âñ¸... íî âîò íå âèäåë êëîíû ôóçç ôåêòîðè - äà, ìèëëèîí |
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 17.05.2009 16:05 |
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Ìåäâåïóòèíñê Microkorg XL ![]() ![]() ![]() |
äæèìè, ýòî â îáùåì-òî íåcñëîæíî - ññûëêà íà ñõåìêó è ðàçáîð çàðóáåæíûõ ïàÿëüùèêîâ â ýòîì ôîðóìå. áóäü òû â ïèòåðå ÿ áû ëè÷íî ñïàÿë òåáå ýòîò ðîê îô áîêñ. áëàãî ó íàñ ñåé÷àñ âñå áîëåå ìåíåå íàëàæåíî, à òðàíçèñòîðû åñòü äàæå â ÷èïäèïå (à âîò òå, ÷òî â îðèãèíàëå - ïîïðîáóé ñûñêàòü ![]() Ñàì äóìàþ íàéòè âðåìÿ è â îäíîì èç çàáðàêîâàííûõ êîðïóñîâ ñîáðàòü ñåáå ýòî äåâàéñ, íàïîèãðàööî. òîêà íà áóñòåð ïîñòàâëþ òóìáëåð - èáî îí èëè íóæåí âñþ äîðîãó, èëè íåíóæåí âàùå. |
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- Êîíöåðò Ñòàñà Ìèõàéëîâà â Ìóðìàíñêå îòìåí¸í èç-çà îòñóòñòâèÿ çðèòåëåé
- Ïîõîæå, Ìóðìàíñêó ïîðà ïðèñâàèâàòü çâàíèå Êóëüòóðíîé Ñòîëèöû Ðîññèè. www.shift-line.com |
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Òåìà: Re: ZVEX Effects. Box of Rock
Âðåìÿ: 17.05.2009 20:28 |
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Çäðàâñòâóéòå. Âà îòðåäàêòèðîâàí ![]() ![]() ![]() |
ñêîïèðîâàòü âñå îäèí â îäèí è ÷òîáû åùå áåñïëàòíî âñå ïîëó÷èëîñü áûëî áû âîîáùå èäåàëüíî... äëÿ ðàçâëå÷åíèÿ âñåãäà íàäî âñå ïîïðîáîâàòü |
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