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Òåìà: Íîâèíêè îò TC Electronic
Âðåìÿ: 21.10.2016 13:18 
k.a.s.
LED
hunter behind heads

 À ÷åãî íèêòî íå íàïèñàë åùå ïðî öåëóþ ñåðèþ íîâèíîê îò ÒèÑè?
http://www.tcelectronic.com/guitar/pedals/
:idea2:
Ñðåäè íîâèíîê, íàïðèìåð, òðóÚ-àíàëîãîâûé äèëåé, õîðóñ, êîìïðåññîð è ò.ä.
Äèçàéí íà ëþáèòåëÿ, äåìêè îò ñàìîãî ïðîèçâîäèòåëÿ ïîêà äîâîëüíî ïîñðåäñòâåííûå.
- How do I get to Carnegie Hall?
- Practice, practice, practice.
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Âðåìÿ: 21.10.2016 13:29 
ÏîëÏèíê
Âîñòî÷íîå Èçìàéëîâî
ñåìïëåð, ñìû÷îê è êàíèôîëü

 k.a.s. , ó íèõ êàêàÿ-òî ìàðêåòèíãîâàÿ áîëåçíü "All analog vs. All purpose digital"...
òðó àíàëîã ïðîòèâ òðó öèôðû - êòî òðóåâèå? :death:
Ìåíÿ ïóòåí îáûäëèë, ÿ ïîýòîìó â ïîäúåçäå ññó (Âåïðü)
lick this post!
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Âðåìÿ: 21.10.2016 13:32 
k.a.s.
LED
hunter behind heads

 ÏîëÏèíê , íàãíåòàþò :-)
- How do I get to Carnegie Hall?
- Practice, practice, practice.
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Òåìà: Re: Íîâèíêè îò TC Electronic
Âðåìÿ: 21.10.2016 13:48 
Jouve
Ìàðüèíîáàä
Êàêèå-òî ãèòàðû

 Äèçàéí ïóêå.Äåìêè ïî áîëüøîìó ñ÷¸òó ïóêå. Âåêòîð - ÀÌÒ, Åðàñîâ :yak:
Íî ùà ïðîñëóøàë - ôóçç âðîäå êàê è ðâ¸ò äóøó :golod06:
Ñòðåìèòåëüíî óäèðàþ ñ ãèòàðíîãî
https://vk.com/allstations
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Òåìà: Re: Íîâèíêè îò TC Electronic
Âðåìÿ: 21.10.2016 13:56 
Gustaw
Ìîñêâà
Strat, ASAT, SG, Takamine

 k.a.s. , äà ïîòîìó ÷òî íå çíàë íèêòî. ß âîò íå ïîíèìàþ, ïî÷åìó ìû äî ñèõ ïîð íå óïîìÿíóëè íà ôîðóìå Phase 95...
Strat, ASAT, SG->Budda-> Cmatmods Signa Comp-> Zendrive->OCD->Fulltone '70 -> MXR Phase 90-> T-Rex Tremster-> RC Booster-> Strymon Brigadier-> Strymon Blue Sky// TS-808->BJFe Folk Fuzz->Wampler Plexi Drive-> Ibanez Flanger->EHX Pulsar->Malekko 616
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Òåìà: Re: Íîâèíêè îò TC Electronic
Âðåìÿ: 21.10.2016 13:59 
Ýáñ
Ìîñêâà
Ibanez MMM1

 Grand Magus êàëèùíîå ïåñî÷èùå :7:
Ibanez MMM1 => AMT WH-1 => BOSS PH-2 => input AMT SS-11b send => Mooer PitchBox => Mooer Trelicopter => Vox DelayLab => return AMT SS-11b output => AMT RY-1 => Brightone MB-1 => Tuner
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Òåìà: Re: Íîâèíêè îò TC Electronic
Âðåìÿ: 21.10.2016 14:43 
ÏîëÏèíê
Âîñòî÷íîå Èçìàéëîâî
ñåìïëåð, ñìû÷îê è êàíèôîëü

 >Äèçàéí ïóêå.Äåìêè ïî áîëüøîìó ñ÷¸òó ïóêå. Âåêòîð - ÀÌÒ, Åðàñîâ
ìíå ñòàðûé äèñãí òîæå áîëüøå íðà, õîòü è íå ôîíòàí... ïîäîçðåâàþ, ÷òî îíè ïðîñòî ïåðåøëè ñ ëèòüÿ íà ãíóòü¸, êàê áîëåå íà äåøåâîå :idea2:
Ìåíÿ ïóòåí îáûäëèë, ÿ ïîýòîìó â ïîäúåçäå ññó (Âåïðü)
lick this post!
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Òåìà: Re: Íîâèíêè îò TC Electronic
Âðåìÿ: 21.10.2016 14:55 
Jouve
Ìàðüèíîáàä
Êàêèå-òî ãèòàðû

 ÏîëÏèíê ,
Íå, à ìíå ñòàðûé íðàâèëñÿ. È ÿ äóìàþ îíè áóäóò â ñâîèõ êëàññè÷åñêèõ êîðïóñàõ êëåïàòü òîæå ñâîè ôëàãìàíû.
Ïðîñòî ýòî - äåø¸âàÿ "òðó àíàëîã" ëèíåéêà(òèïî âû õîòåëè? Òà íàòå!). Ñêîðåå âñåãî åù¸ äàæå â äðóãèõ êîíòîðàõ ôèãà÷èòü áóäóò. À TC òèïî áðåíä, íó ýò äîãàäêè.
Ñòðåìèòåëüíî óäèðàþ ñ ãèòàðíîãî
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Âðåìÿ: 21.10.2016 14:56 
Jouve
Ìàðüèíîáàä
Êàêèå-òî ãèòàðû

 Gustaw ,
À òåáå ïîíðàâèëñÿ?
Ñòðåìèòåëüíî óäèðàþ ñ ãèòàðíîãî
https://vk.com/allstations
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Òåìà: Re: Íîâèíêè îò TC Electronic
Âðåìÿ: 21.10.2016 15:02 
Gustaw
Ìîñêâà
Strat, ASAT, SG, Takamine

 https://www.facebook.com/tcelectronic/videos/vb.11 638678857/10155339729053858/?t...476972582482904 ïðÿìîé ýôèð îò ÒÑ êàê ðàç ñåé÷àñ èäåò. Íå çíàþ î ÷åì òàì áóäåò))
Strat, ASAT, SG->Budda-> Cmatmods Signa Comp-> Zendrive->OCD->Fulltone '70 -> MXR Phase 90-> T-Rex Tremster-> RC Booster-> Strymon Brigadier-> Strymon Blue Sky// TS-808->BJFe Folk Fuzz->Wampler Plexi Drive-> Ibanez Flanger->EHX Pulsar->Malekko 616
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Òåìà: Re: Íîâèíêè îò TC Electronic
Âðåìÿ: 21.10.2016 15:03 
Gustaw
Ìîñêâà
Strat, ASAT, SG, Takamine

 >À òåáå ïîíðàâèëñÿ?
KOMNCCAP }|{ |-O B , êòî? Äèçàéí? Óáîãèé, äà ïðîñòÿò ìåíÿ òå, ó êîãî ñõîæèå âíåøíèì âèäîì ïåäàëè åñòü.
Strat, ASAT, SG->Budda-> Cmatmods Signa Comp-> Zendrive->OCD->Fulltone '70 -> MXR Phase 90-> T-Rex Tremster-> RC Booster-> Strymon Brigadier-> Strymon Blue Sky// TS-808->BJFe Folk Fuzz->Wampler Plexi Drive-> Ibanez Flanger->EHX Pulsar->Malekko 616
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Âðåìÿ: 21.10.2016 15:10 
Jouve
Ìàðüèíîáàä
Êàêèå-òî ãèòàðû

 Gustaw ,
ß ïðî ôýéç 95 :peepwall:
Ñòðåìèòåëüíî óäèðàþ ñ ãèòàðíîãî
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Òåìà: Re: Íîâèíêè îò TC Electronic
Âðåìÿ: 21.10.2016 15:25 
Gustaw
Ìîñêâà
Strat, ASAT, SG, Takamine

 KOMNCCAP }|{ |-O B , à. Äà ÿ åãî íå þçàë, òîëüêî âèäåë ÷òî âîò âûøëà òàêàÿ øòóêà. Ïîêàçàëàñü èíòåðåñíîé) Èëè îíà óæå ïðîøëîãîäíÿÿ íîâîñòü?))
Strat, ASAT, SG->Budda-> Cmatmods Signa Comp-> Zendrive->OCD->Fulltone '70 -> MXR Phase 90-> T-Rex Tremster-> RC Booster-> Strymon Brigadier-> Strymon Blue Sky// TS-808->BJFe Folk Fuzz->Wampler Plexi Drive-> Ibanez Flanger->EHX Pulsar->Malekko 616
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Âðåìÿ: 21.10.2016 15:56 
Jouve
Ìàðüèíîáàä
Êàêèå-òî ãèòàðû

 Gustaw ,
Äà ÿ íå çíàþ. Ìíå íå î÷ ïîíðà ïî äåìî÷êàì, äóìàë òû ùóïàë.
Ñòðåìèòåëüíî óäèðàþ ñ ãèòàðíîãî
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Âðåìÿ: 21.10.2016 16:03 
Jouve
Ìàðüèíîáàä
Êàêèå-òî ãèòàðû

 Êñòàòü, âñå äåìîíñòðàöèè íîâèíîê îò TC
Ñòðåìèòåëüíî óäèðàþ ñ ãèòàðíîãî
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Âðåìÿ: 22.10.2016 16:50 
zui



 ïîìîéìó TC ÷åòà â ïîñëåäíåå âðåìÿ êàòèööà â êàêîé-òî õèïñòåðñêèé ïîïñ))
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Òåìà: Re: Íîâèíêè îò TC Electronic
Âðåìÿ: 22.10.2016 18:44 
Chao
Ìîñêâà


 Íå âçëåòèò.
Áåõð èì íå ïåðåïëþíóòü :drazn:
Àëåêñ
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Òåìà: Re: Íîâèíêè îò TC Electronic
Âðåìÿ: 23.10.2016 10:22 
Marichev
Omsk


 ìóæèêè (è íå òîëüêî...) - äàéòå ññûëêó íà êëàññíûé äèçàéí , íà âàø âçãëÿä...
www.amtelectronicsusa.com
www.amtelectronics.com
www.tapmaster-music-gear.de
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Òåìà: Re: Íîâèíêè îò TC Electronic
Âðåìÿ: 24.10.2016 09:26 
k.a.s.
LED
hunter behind heads

 >ìóæèêè (è íå òîëüêî...) - äàéòå ññûëêó íà êëàññíûé äèçàéí , íà âàø âçãëÿä...
âîò, êñòàòè, ïðàâèëüíûé âîïðîñ :idea2:
à òî êàê ÷åãî íå âûêèíóò íà ðûíîê ïðîèçâîäèòåëè - ó àóäèòîðèè ïåðâûì äåëîì íà÷èíàåò áîìáèòü îò äèçàéíà
- How do I get to Carnegie Hall?
- Practice, practice, practice.
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Âðåìÿ: 24.10.2016 09:45 
ÁÅËÛÉ_ÊÎÒ
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ãèòàðà

 >âîò, êñòàòè, ïðàâèëüíûé âîïðîñ
BOSS, Way Huge, Strymon... Äà òå æå ñòàíäàðòíûå MXR èëè ïðåäûäóùàÿ ëèíåéêà TC (HOF, Politune) - âñ¸ ýòî îòëè÷íûå îðèåíòèðû.
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Âðåìÿ: 24.10.2016 09:52 
k.a.s.
LED
hunter behind heads

 >BOSS, Way Huge, Strymon... Äà òå æå ñòàíäàðòíûå MXR èëè ïðåäûäóùàÿ ëèíåéêà TC (HOF, Politune) - âñ¸ ýòî îòëè÷íûå îðèåíòèðû.
íàñ÷åò Áîññ - áåññïîðíî, ýòî êëàññèêà è êàê ïî ìíå - ïî÷òè ñîâåðøåíñòâî :agree:

à âîò òèñèøíûå ïåäàëè íèêîãäà îñîáî íå íðàâèëèñü, äàðîì ÷òî ñàì èìåþ ïîëèòþí :19:
- How do I get to Carnegie Hall?
- Practice, practice, practice.
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Âðåìÿ: 24.10.2016 09:53 
Yammi
Ìîñêâà
American Standard Stratocaster

 Porche, Pinifarina è ò.ä. Äà ìàëî ëè èõ :)

http://en.red-dot.org/
https://www.dexigner.com/directory/cat/Industrial- Design/Design-Studios
https://www.fastcodesign.com/3049908/innovation-by -design/the-2015-innovation-by...-product-design
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Âðåìÿ: 24.10.2016 09:56 
Yammi
Ìîñêâà
American Standard Stratocaster

 Ãëàâíîå, ÷òîáû ðàçðàáàòûâàë ÷åëîâåê ñî âêóñîì :) Äèçàéí òî ìîæåò áûòü ðàçíûé.
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Âðåìÿ: 24.10.2016 10:41 
Andy T
Ìîñêâà
Jackson SL1/Russtone

 >Äèçàéí ïóêå.Äåìêè ïî áîëüøîìó ñ÷¸òó ïóêå. Âåêòîð - ÀÌÒ, Åðàñîâ
Õç, ñëóøàë â÷åðà ÀÌÒ â Øàìðàå, ËÀ2, ìíå ïîíðàâèëèñü, âîçüìó ñåáå îäíó. Íàôèð ÒèÑè, êîãäà åñòü ÀÌÒ :dance1:
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Âðåìÿ: 24.10.2016 10:42 
Jouve
Ìàðüèíîáàä
Êàêèå-òî ãèòàðû

 Andy T ,
ß íå ñïîðþ. Ñàì ïîëüçóþñü :idea2:
Ñòðåìèòåëüíî óäèðàþ ñ ãèòàðíîãî
https://vk.com/allstations
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Âðåìÿ: 24.10.2016 11:59 
ÁÅËÛÉ_ÊÎÒ
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ãèòàðà

 >à âîò òèñèøíûå ïåäàëè íèêîãäà îñîáî íå íðàâèëèñü, äàðîì ÷òî ñàì èìåþ ïîëèòþí
Äà áðîñü, îíè íÿøíûå :-) Ïðàâäà, â ðåàëå íå òàê õîðîøè êàê íà êàðòèíêå, íî âñ¸ ðàâíî î÷åíü ïðèëè÷íûå.
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Âðåìÿ: 24.10.2016 12:08 
Jouve
Ìàðüèíîáàä
Êàêèå-òî ãèòàðû

 ÁÅËÛÉ_ÊÎÒ ,
Ó íèõ êðóòûå êîðïóñà íà ñàìîì-òî äåëå è êðàñî÷íîå ïîêðûòèå õîðîøåå.
Ñòðåìèòåëüíî óäèðàþ ñ ãèòàðíîãî
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Âðåìÿ: 24.10.2016 12:41 
k.a.s.
LED
hunter behind heads

 >Ó íèõ êðóòûå êîðïóñà íà ñàìîì-òî äåëå è êðàñî÷íîå ïîêðûòèå õîðîøåå
âîò ñ ýòèì íå ïîñïîðèøü, ìîåìó ïîëèòþíó ëåò 6, à âûãëÿäèò êàê íîâûé (åñëè îòòåðåòü âñþ ãðÿçü è ïûëü)
- How do I get to Carnegie Hall?
- Practice, practice, practice.
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Òåìà: Re: Íîâèíêè îò TC Electronic
Âðåìÿ: 24.10.2016 13:05 
Andy T
Ìîñêâà
Jackson SL1/Russtone

 >Andy T ,
>ß íå ñïîðþ. Ñàì ïîëüçóþñü
Äðÿìñ! Ó òåáÿ âðîäå ïðåä áûë, èëè åù¸ ÷òî-òî?
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Âðåìÿ: 24.10.2016 13:14 
ÁÅËÛÉ_ÊÎÒ
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ãèòàðà

 Êñòàòè, ïî ñàáæó: ìíå íðàâÿòñÿ íîâûå êîðïóñà TC, à óæ çà äæåêè ñâåðõó è âîâñå êëàíÿþñü â íîãè. Âèíòàæíåíüêî òàê âûãëÿäèò, ÷åì-òî íàïîìèíàåò ñòàðûå DOD'û. Ñòèëüíî, óçíàâàåìî, óäîáíî. Ïîñìîòðèì, êàê áóäóò çâó÷àòü.
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Âðåìÿ: 24.10.2016 13:40 
Marichev
Omsk


 >Ãëàâíîå, ÷òîáû ðàçðàáàòûâàë ÷åëîâåê ñî âêóñîì Äèçàéí òî ìîæåò áûòü ðàçíûé.
íà ýòîé êàðòèíêå - âû íàõîäèòå õîðîøèì äèçàéí?
www.amtelectronicsusa.com
www.amtelectronics.com
www.tapmaster-music-gear.de
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Âðåìÿ: 24.10.2016 13:43 
Marichev
Omsk


 íà êàðòèíêå - ýðãîíîìèêà ñëàáà, ðó÷êè ëåãêî ñáèâàþòñÿ ïðè íàæàòèè íà ôóòñâè÷, â ðåàëüíûõ êîíöåðòíûõ óñëîâèÿõ ýòî ïðîñòî ëåãêî ñáèâàåòñÿ
www.amtelectronicsusa.com
www.amtelectronics.com
www.tapmaster-music-gear.de
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Âðåìÿ: 24.10.2016 13:51 
Marichev
Omsk


 öâåòîì âûäåëåíû ðàçíîñòíûå òîêîâûå ïàðàìåòðû ãàëüâàíè÷åñêè èçîëèðîâàííûå âûõîäû ÁÏ (ëèíåéíîãî ÁÏ)
www.amtelectronicsusa.com
www.amtelectronics.com
www.tapmaster-music-gear.de
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Jouve
Ìàðüèíîáàä
Êàêèå-òî ãèòàðû

 Marichev ,
Î êàêàÿ øòóêà :agree:
Andy T ,
Ïðåä, êâàê.
Ñòðåìèòåëüíî óäèðàþ ñ ãèòàðíîãî
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Âðåìÿ: 24.10.2016 13:57 
k.a.s.
LED
hunter behind heads

 >íà êàðòèíêå - ýðãîíîìèêà ñëàáà, ðó÷êè ëåãêî ñáèâàþòñÿ ïðè íàæàòèè íà ôóòñâè÷, â ðåàëüíûõ êîíöåðòíûõ óñëîâèÿõ ýòî ïðîñòî ëåãêî ñáèâàåòñÿ
âîò äà
ñåé÷àñ ñ îáèëèåì è äîñòóïíîñòüþ ×ÏÓ/ëàçåðíîé ãðàâèðîâêè, à òàêæå ñîâðåìåííûìè ìåòîäàìè íàíåñåíèÿ èçîáðàæåíèÿ óìåëüöû çà÷àñòóþ çàáûâàþò î ïðàêòè÷åñêèõ àñïåêòàõ, íî íàíîñÿò î÷åíü êðàñèâûå è çàìûñëîâàòûå ðèñóíêè è ãðàâèðîâêó
- How do I get to Carnegie Hall?
- Practice, practice, practice.
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 >öâåòîì âûäåëåíû ðàçíîñòíûå òîêîâûå ïàðàìåòðû ãàëüâàíè÷åñêè èçîëèðîâàííûå âûõîäû ÁÏ (ëèíåéíîãî ÁÏ)
Ðåíäåðèëè â Keyshot? ;-)
- How do I get to Carnegie Hall?
- Practice, practice, practice.
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Marichev
Omsk


 >>öâåòîì âûäåëåíû ðàçíîñòíûå òîêîâûå ïàðàìåòðû ãàëüâàíè÷åñêè èçîëèðîâàííûå âûõîäû ÁÏ (ëèíåéíîãî ÁÏ)
>Ðåíäåðèëè â Keyshot?
äà
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 >>Ðåíäåðèëè â Keyshot?
>äà
óçíàþ ôàêòóðó ìàòåðèàëîâ è îñâåùåíèå.
Ñàì îäíî âðåìÿ ðåíäåðèë íåìíîãî ïî ðàáîòå.

Âîò, êñòàòè, åùå îäíà âîçìîæíîñòü ïðè äèçàéíå òåõ æå ïåäàëåé - âèçóàëèçèðîâàòü âèðòóàëüíî è ïåðåä íà÷àëîì ïðîèçâîäñòâà ïðèêèíóòü ìàòåðèàëû, ñî÷åòàíèå öâåòîâ è ò.ä.
Èíòåðåñíî, êòî-òî åùå èç îòå÷åñòâåííûõ ïðîèçâîäèòåëåé òàê äåëàåò? :da:
- How do I get to Carnegie Hall?
- Practice, practice, practice.
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Marichev
Omsk


 äà äà, î÷åíü óäîáíî è íàãëÿäíî, èñïîëüçóåì ýòó è äðóãèå ïðîãðàììû íà ïîñòîÿííîé îñíîâå äëÿ ïîèñêà ïðèåìëåìûõ âàðèàíòîâ ïî ãðàôèêå è öâåòó
www.amtelectronicsusa.com
www.amtelectronics.com
www.tapmaster-music-gear.de
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hCorer
ÑÏá


 Marichev , óõ áëèí, íå çíàë, ÷òî âû âûïóñòèëè êîìïàêòíûé ìàëîìîùíûé ëàóäáîêñ... Æåëàþ! :ves001:
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