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Àâòîð
Òåìà: MXR M-117R
Âðåìÿ: 10.06.2015 11:11 
Ìîñêîâñêèå çàäâîðêè.
Ïàëî÷êè ñàìîïàëî÷êè

þçàþ ìíîãà ëåò, íà êà÷åñòâî çâóêà íàðåêàíèé íåò,
íî âîò çàâåë ñåáå âèíòàæíûé ôëýíäæåð Ìàêñîí, äëÿ ðàçíîîáðàçèÿ, çâóê äèêî ðàçíûé, îáåèì ïðèìåíåíèå íàõîäèòñÿ:
MXR - òàêîé êëàññè÷åñêèé äæåò-ïëåéí, æèðíûé, ñî÷íûé, Maxon FL-301 áîëåå õîðóñîâûé, çâóê êàê ó wobbling tape,
âñÿêèå øèçî-áóëüêàíüÿ è çàêðóòû/çàâîðîòû, íóæíû îáà, êîðî÷å. Æðóò îáà 18V

íî ïîÿâèëàñü ïðîáëåìà - MXR ñàäèò ãðîìêîñòü ÷óòîê, ðàíüøå íå íàïðÿãàëî îñîáî, òåïåðü ÷å-òî ïàðèò
êòî çíàåò ìîæíî â íèõ ìîääèòü ñåé áàã? È êàê ó äðóãèõ ñåáÿ âåäóò åãî ñîðîäè÷è?
à òî ìîæåò ïðîñòî ó ìåíÿ òàêîé ýêçåìïëÿð ïîïàëñÿ
Èëè ìîæåò ÷òî ïî ïèòàíèþ, êîíôëèêò êàêîé, è MXR íå õâàòàåò íàïðóãè?

×åñòíî, íå çàìå÷àë òàêîé ñèëüíîé ïðîñàäêè ðàíüøå, áûëà íî íåáîëüøàÿ, òåïåðü êàê áóäòî áîëüøå,
íî ñîìíèòåëüíî, ìîæåò ïðîñòî íå îáðàùàë âíèìàíèÿ
"òû òàê ãîâîðèøü, áóäòî óáèéñòâî æèâîãî ñóùåñòâà - ýòî ÷òî-òî ïëîõîå" © Ëåáåäèíûé õðóñò
"It never ceases to amaze me, people in an effects forum complaining about somebody using too many effects" ©
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Òåìà: Re: MXR M-117R
Âðåìÿ: 10.06.2015 14:47 
Ìîñêâà
Ibanez MMM1

http://www.stompboxzone.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=797 Êîáðà ïèøåò
Ibanez MMM1 => AMT WH-1 => BOSS PH-2 => input AMT SS-11b send => Mooer PitchBox => Mooer Trelicopter => Vox DelayLab => return AMT SS-11b output => AMT RY-1 => Brightone MB-1 => Tuner
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Òåìà: Re: MXR M-117R
Âðåìÿ: 10.06.2015 14:59 
Ìîñêîâñêèå çàäâîðêè.
Ïàëî÷êè ñàìîïàëî÷êè

ñïàñèáî, ïîçíàâàòåëüíî
"òû òàê ãîâîðèøü, áóäòî óáèéñòâî æèâîãî ñóùåñòâà - ýòî ÷òî-òî ïëîõîå" © Ëåáåäèíûé õðóñò
"It never ceases to amaze me, people in an effects forum complaining about somebody using too many effects" ©
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: MXR M-117R
Âðåìÿ: 10.06.2015 15:03 
Ìîñêâà
Ibanez MMM1

äà ÿ ïðîñòî äóìàë åãî ñåáå áðàòü, è âîò íàòêíóëñÿ, ÷òî îí çâóê ïîäæèðàåò((
Ibanez MMM1 => AMT WH-1 => BOSS PH-2 => input AMT SS-11b send => Mooer PitchBox => Mooer Trelicopter => Vox DelayLab => return AMT SS-11b output => AMT RY-1 => Brightone MB-1 => Tuner
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Òåìà: Re: MXR M-117R
Âðåìÿ: 10.06.2015 17:40 
Ìîñêîâñêèå çàäâîðêè.
Ïàëî÷êè ñàìîïàëî÷êè

íà ñöåíè÷åñêîé ãðîìêîñòè íå îñîáî çàìåòíî, à â ñòóäèè ëåãêàÿ ïè÷àëüêà òàêàÿ
"òû òàê ãîâîðèøü, áóäòî óáèéñòâî æèâîãî ñóùåñòâà - ýòî ÷òî-òî ïëîõîå" © Ëåáåäèíûé õðóñò
"It never ceases to amaze me, people in an effects forum complaining about somebody using too many effects" ©
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: MXR M-117R
Âðåìÿ: 10.06.2015 17:41 
Ìîñêîâñêèå çàäâîðêè.
Ïàëî÷êè ñàìîïàëî÷êè

Ýáñ , à íà ÷åì â èòîãå îñòàíîâèëñÿ?
"òû òàê ãîâîðèøü, áóäòî óáèéñòâî æèâîãî ñóùåñòâà - ýòî ÷òî-òî ïëîõîå" © Ëåáåäèíûé õðóñò
"It never ceases to amaze me, people in an effects forum complaining about somebody using too many effects" ©
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: MXR M-117R
Âðåìÿ: 10.06.2015 23:01 
Ìîñêâà
Ibanez MMM1

>Ýáñ , à íà ÷åì â èòîãå îñòàíîâèëñÿ?
à íè íà ÷åì :4:
Âìåñòî "÷èñòîãî" õîðóñà òåïåðü þçàþ Mooer Pitch Box - òàì detune åñòü, ìíå õâàòàåò.
À âîîáùå, äóìàþ ïîñëàòü â *îïó áðåíäîôèëèþ è âçÿòü boss... ÿïîíñêèé :yak: åñëè íàéäó...
Ibanez MMM1 => AMT WH-1 => BOSS PH-2 => input AMT SS-11b send => Mooer PitchBox => Mooer Trelicopter => Vox DelayLab => return AMT SS-11b output => AMT RY-1 => Brightone MB-1 => Tuner
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Òåìà: Re: MXR M-117R
Âðåìÿ: 11.06.2015 07:15 
Byzantium
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>äà ÿ ïðîñòî äóìàë åãî ñåáå áðàòü, è âîò íàòêíóëñÿ, ÷òî îí çâóê ïîäæèðàåò((

:ves12:
íè÷¸ îí çâóê íå ïîäæèðàåò .... ïðîñòî èä¸ò íåáîëüøàÿ åñòåñòâåííàÿ ïðîñàäêà ïî ãðîìêîñòè, ïîòîìó êàê ïðèìî÷êà íå ðàññ÷èòàíà íà âêëþ÷åíèå â ðàçðûâ .... Áîññû, êñòàòè, òàê æå íå ïðåäíàçíà÷åíû äëÿ ðàçðûâà ;)
...Βυζαντινή Ρωμαίοι εδω ... Φαειτ τα σκαταμ.
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: MXR M-117R
Âðåìÿ: 11.06.2015 07:25 
Byzantium
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>http://www.stompboxzone.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f =5&t=797 Êîáðà ïèøåò

òàì ÷åë âêëþ÷àåò åãî â ðàçðûâ .....îòñþäà è ïðîáëåìà, êîòîðóþ ïðåäëàãàåò ðåøèòü Êîáðà..
...Βυζαντινή Ρωμαίοι εδω ... Φαειτ τα σκαταμ.
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: MXR M-117R
Âðåìÿ: 11.06.2015 08:14 
Ìîñêâà
Ibanez MMM1

>Áîññû, êñòàòè, òàê æå íå ïðåäíàçíà÷åíû äëÿ ðàçðûâà
äà ÷òî Âû ãîâîðèòå :eek7:
Âîò âñå çâåçäû äåáèëû òî :tardlol:
Ibanez MMM1 => AMT WH-1 => BOSS PH-2 => input AMT SS-11b send => Mooer PitchBox => Mooer Trelicopter => Vox DelayLab => return AMT SS-11b output => AMT RY-1 => Brightone MB-1 => Tuner
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Òåìà: Re: MXR M-117R
Âðåìÿ: 11.06.2015 09:00 
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>>Áîññû, êñòàòè, òàê æå íå ïðåäíàçíà÷åíû äëÿ ðàçðûâà
>äà ÷òî Âû ãîâîðèòå
>Âîò âñå çâåçäû äåáèëû òî


íåò, çâ¸çäû íå äåáèëû --- â îòëè÷èè îò áåñòîëêîâûõ è òóïûõ -- íî ñëèøêîì ñàìîóâåðåííûõ è íà÷èòàâøèõñÿ ñîâêîâûõ èíòåðíåòîâ, ïîñêîëüêó ñ àíãëèéñêèì ÿçûêîì íå äðóæàò íèêàê, -- þçåðîâ ìåñòíûõ ôîðóìîâ :ves12:

äëÿ èñïîëüçîâàíèÿ â ðàçðûâå - ïðèìî÷êè ëèáî ìîäèôèöèðóþòñÿ ñîîòâåòñòâóþùèì îáðàçîì, ëèáî èñïîëüçóåòñÿ ñïåöèàëüíîå óñòðîéñòâî äëÿ ïîíèæåíèÿ ñèãíàëà äî óðîâíÿ íåîáõîäèìîãî äëÿ íîðìàëüíîé ðàáîòû ïðèìî÷êè (ïîòîì ýòîò ñèãíàë ñíîâà ïîäíèìàåòñÿ)
ïî äðóãîìó -- ïðîñòî íèêàê :)

... òî, ÷òî òû íàãëÿäíî âèäèøü íà ïåäàëáîðäàõ ó "âñåõ çâ¸çä" -- ýòî òîëüêî ïîëîâèíà âñåãî, ÷òî ó íèõ òàì çàêîììóòèðîâàíî â äàííûé ìîìåíò.. ;)

ïðèáîð äëÿ ðåøåíèÿ âîïðîñà îá èñïîëüçîâàíèè ïðèìî÷åê â ðàçðûâå -- òèïà ýòîãî (åñòü è äðóãèå...)
http://www.fuchsaudiotechnology.com/products-plush-detail.php?id=tube_fx_loop&ca...e_fx_loop&cat=2

ñîâðåìåííûå ïðèìî÷êè - òèïà TC Electronic è äð. -- ðàçðàáàòûâàþòñÿ ñ ó÷¸òîì ðàáîòû â ðàçðûâå ...èõ ìîæíî ñïîêîéíî òûêàòü â ðàçðûâ.

Âîîáùå, ïî ýòîìó âîïðîñó óæå áûëî 100500 òåì .... îïÿòü âñ¸ ýòî ðàññêàçûâàòü -- íåò æåëàíèÿ ..
.... Èùè -- ÷èòàé -- ïðîñâåùàéñÿ :onotole: ....... (åñëè ìîæåøü :ves12: )
...Βυζαντινή Ρωμαίοι εδω ... Φαειτ τα σκαταμ.
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: MXR M-117R
Âðåìÿ: 11.06.2015 11:37 
Ìîñêîâñêèå çàäâîðêè.
Ïàëî÷êè ñàìîïàëî÷êè

ÿ ñâîé MXR ïðîáîâàë ïîäêëþ÷àòü â ðàçðûâ,
ëèøíèé ðàç óáåäèëñÿ ÷òî âîîáùå íå ëþáëþ çâóê ìîäóëÿöèé â ðàçðûâå :4:

îïÿòü æå îãîâîðþñü, ÷òî ïî ñðàâíåíèþ ñ Ìàêñîíîì, ñàäèò, è òî íå êðèòè÷íî,
ïðîñòî äóìàë, ìîæåò êàêàÿ ðàñïðîñòðàíåííàÿ ïðîáëåìà êîòîðàÿ ëåãêî ëå÷èòñÿ ó ìàñòåðà
"òû òàê ãîâîðèøü, áóäòî óáèéñòâî æèâîãî ñóùåñòâà - ýòî ÷òî-òî ïëîõîå" © Ëåáåäèíûé õðóñò
"It never ceases to amaze me, people in an effects forum complaining about somebody using too many effects" ©
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: MXR M-117R
Âðåìÿ: 11.06.2015 12:13 
Byzantium
Fender/Vigier guitars Marshall amps/cabs TN Torpedo Live

>ÿ ñâîé MXR ïðîáîâàë ïîäêëþ÷àòü â ðàçðûâ,
>ëèøíèé ðàç óáåäèëñÿ ÷òî âîîáùå íå ëþáëþ çâóê ìîäóëÿöèé â ðàçðûâå
>îïÿòü æå îãîâîðþñü,


îïÿòü æå ---- íå âñÿêàÿ ìîäóëÿöèÿ õîðîøî äðóæèò ñ ïåðåãðóçîì ... :idea2:

. âêëþ÷àÿ ìîäóëÿöèþ â ðàçðûâ, òû âêëþ÷àåøü å¸ ïîñëå ïåðåãðóçà
ñ ÷èñòûì çâóêîì ïðîáëåì íå áóäåò .... ÷èñòûé - îí è â Àôðèêå ÷èñòûé
à âîò, ñ ïåðåãðóçîì ìîãóò âîçíèêíóòü íåñòûêîâêè .. :idea2:
.. îäèí õîðóñ/ôëåíäæåð áóäåò çâó÷àòü êðóòî .... äðóãîé -- òàê ñåáå :idea2:
...Βυζαντινή Ρωμαίοι εδω ... Φαειτ τα σκαταμ.
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: MXR M-117R
Âðåìÿ: 11.06.2015 12:14 
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>. âêëþ÷àÿ ìîäóëÿöèþ â ðàçðûâ, òû âêëþ÷àåøü å¸ ïîñëå ïåðåãðóçà

â ñìûñëå -- ïîñëå ïðåàìïà .... êîòîðûé ìîæåò äàâàòü ÷èñòûé çâóê ... à ìîæåò äàâàòü ïåðåãðóç
...Βυζαντινή Ρωμαίοι εδω ... Φαειτ τα σκαταμ.
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: MXR M-117R
Âðåìÿ: 11.06.2015 12:19 
Ìîñêîâñêèå çàäâîðêè.
Ïàëî÷êè ñàìîïàëî÷êè

íó ó ìåíÿ îäíîêàíàëüíûé óñèëèòåëü , òàì òîëüêî ÷èñòûé â ïðèíöèïå,
äàæå åñëè íà âñå 50 âàòò ðàñêà÷àòü, òîëüêî ëåãêèé áðåéêàï,
R&R Solo Loner - ñõåìà ïî ìîòèâàì VOX AC-50 + ìîäû â âèäå äîáàâëåííîãî ðåãóëÿòîðà ñðåäíèõ ÷àñòîò,
è ëàìïîâîé ïåòëè ïîñëåäîâàòåëüíî/ïàðàëëåëüíî ïåðåêëþ÷àåìîé

à äðàéâ ñ ïåäàëåé â èíïóò

ïðîñòî íà ìîé âêóñ â ïåòëå êàê-òî âñå æåñòêî çâó÷èò,
ïåðåä ïðåäóñèëèòåëåì îíî êàê-òî ìÿã÷å, ìóçûêàëüíåé, ñóáúåêòèâíî, ðàçóìååòñÿ
"òû òàê ãîâîðèøü, áóäòî óáèéñòâî æèâîãî ñóùåñòâà - ýòî ÷òî-òî ïëîõîå" © Ëåáåäèíûé õðóñò
"It never ceases to amaze me, people in an effects forum complaining about somebody using too many effects" ©
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: MXR M-117R
Âðåìÿ: 11.06.2015 13:05 
Byzantium
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> ñóáúåêòèâíî, ðàçóìååòñÿ


ïðîòèâ "ñóáúåêòèâíîãî" íèêòî íè÷åãî íå èìååò ... :agree: òóò -- êàæäûé ñàì ñåáå öàðü
...Βυζαντινή Ρωμαίοι εδω ... Φαειτ τα σκαταμ.
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: MXR M-117R
Âðåìÿ: 12.06.2015 09:07 
Ìîñêâà
Ibanez MMM1

>... òî, ÷òî òû íàãëÿäíî âèäèøü íà ïåäàëáîðäàõ ó "âñåõ çâ¸çä" -- ýòî òîëüêî ïîëîâèíà âñåãî, ÷òî ó íèõ òàì çàêîììóòèðîâàíî â äàííûé ìîìåíò..
àìåðèêó îòêðûë :7:

>äëÿ èñïîëüçîâàíèÿ â ðàçðûâå - ïðèìî÷êè ëèáî ìîäèôèöèðóþòñÿ ñîîòâåòñòâóþùèì îáðàçîì, ëèáî èñïîëüçóåòñÿ ñïåöèàëüíîå óñòðîéñòâî äëÿ ïîíèæåíèÿ ñèãíàëà äî óðîâíÿ íåîáõîäèìîãî äëÿ íîðìàëüíîé ðàáîòû ïðèìî÷êè (ïîòîì ýòîò ñèãíàë ñíîâà ïîäíèìàåòñÿ)
óòî÷íèòü íè÷åãî íå õî÷åøü, íà ñ÷åò òîãî æå, ÷òî óòî÷íèë ïðî ñîâðåìåííûå ïðèìî÷êè?
À òî îáîáùàåøü :moral:

Èç ñîñåäíåé òåìû - âîò òû òóò êàê ðàç Áîëîòîâ, ìîëîäåö, êóëå :agree:
Ñðàâíåíèå ïîíÿë, íàäåþñü?

Èëè ñèäèì â îäíîì êîíòåêñòå, èëè äåëàåì âíÿòíûå óêàçàòåëè-óòî÷íåíèÿ :7:
Ibanez MMM1 => AMT WH-1 => BOSS PH-2 => input AMT SS-11b send => Mooer PitchBox => Mooer Trelicopter => Vox DelayLab => return AMT SS-11b output => AMT RY-1 => Brightone MB-1 => Tuner
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: MXR M-117R
Âðåìÿ: 12.06.2015 09:15 
Byzantium
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>óòî÷íèòü íè÷åãî íå õî÷åøü, íà ñ÷åò òîãî æå, ÷òî óòî÷íèë ïðî ñîâðåìåííûå ïðèìî÷êè?
>À òî îáîáùàåøü

ïîèùè íà ÃÏ ......áóêâàëüíî äíÿ òðè íàçàä ÿ òàì - óæå â êîòîðûé ðàç - ðàññêàçûâàë íà ýòó òåìó ....
äëÿ òåáÿ ïåðñîíàëüíî --- íåò æåëàíèÿ.
êñòàòè, íà ÌÔ òîæ ãîâîðèëè ïðî ýòî ñòî ðàç.. ... ïî èäåå, âñå óæå äîëæíû çíàòü âñ¸ îá ýòîì âîïðîñå..



>Èç ñîñåäíåé òåìû - âîò òû òóò êàê ðàç Áîëîòîâ, ìîëîäåö, êóëå
>Ñðàâíåíèå ïîíÿë, íàäåþñü?

Áîëîòîâ - ïî âñåìó âèäíî, ÷òî îí ïðîñòî êîíêðåòíî äâèæåòñÿ â ñòîðîíó ïàðàíîèêà, êîòîðûé âûñìàòðèâàåò âñ¸ ó âñåõ (ó êîãî ìîæåò), è òóò æå îòðèöàåò âñ¸ è âñÿ -- êðîìå ñåáÿ ëþáèìîãî..

à ìíå ïðîñòî ëåíü ïèñàòü îäíî è òî æå â ñîòûé ðàç :ves12:
...Βυζαντινή Ρωμαίοι εδω ... Φαειτ τα σκαταμ.
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: MXR M-117R
Âðåìÿ: 12.06.2015 09:20 
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>ïîèùè íà ÃÏ ......


èëè íà áóðæóéñêèõ ôîðóìàõ .....ïîëíî èíôû ...(åñëè ñ èíîñòðàííûìè ÿçûêàìè äðóæèøü ;) )
...Βυζαντινή Ρωμαίοι εδω ... Φαειτ τα σκαταμ.
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: MXR M-117R
Âðåìÿ: 12.06.2015 23:59 
Ìîñêâà
Ibanez MMM1

>ïîèùè íà ÃÏ
:7:
ÿ òåáå ê òîìó, ÷òî â ñâîåé ðå÷è íàäî óòî÷íÿòü, ÷òî òû ãîâîðèøü â êîíòåêñòå îëäîâûõ ïðèìî÷åê, à òî ó òåáÿ ìåøàíèíà. Ïåðå÷èòàé ñâîè æå ïîñòû.
À ìíå íå íàäî îáúÿñíÿòü, êàêèì îáðàçîì äîëæíû áûòü "ñòàðûå" è "íîâûå" ïåäàëè â áîðäå è ÷òî äëÿ ýòîãî íóæíî :4:
Ibanez MMM1 => AMT WH-1 => BOSS PH-2 => input AMT SS-11b send => Mooer PitchBox => Mooer Trelicopter => Vox DelayLab => return AMT SS-11b output => AMT RY-1 => Brightone MB-1 => Tuner
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Òåìà: Re: MXR M-117R
Âðåìÿ: 13.06.2015 05:59 
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>>ïîèùè íà ÃÏ
>ÿ òåáå ê òîìó, ÷òî â ñâîåé ðå÷è íàäî óòî÷íÿòü, ÷òî òû ãîâîðèøü â êîíòåêñòå îëäîâûõ ïðèìî÷åê, à òî ó òåáÿ ìåøàíèíà. Ïåðå÷èòàé ñâîè æå ïîñòû.
>À ìíå íå íàäî îáúÿñíÿòü, êàêèì îáðàçîì äîëæíû áûòü "ñòàðûå" è "íîâûå" ïåäàëè â áîðäå è ÷òî äëÿ ýòîãî íóæíî

Íå òîëüêî îëäîâûå ïðèìî÷êè, íî è ñîâðåìåííûå ñðàäàþò ýòîé "áîëåçíüþ" ...(çà ðåäêèì èñêëþ÷åíèåì) ;)
...Βυζαντινή Ρωμαίοι εδω ... Φαειτ τα σκαταμ.
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Òåìà: Re: MXR M-117R
Âðåìÿ: 13.06.2015 12:20 
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>>>ïîèùè íà ÃÏ
>>ÿ òåáå ê òîìó, ÷òî â ñâîåé ðå÷è íàäî óòî÷íÿòü, ÷òî òû ãîâîðèøü â êîíòåêñòå îëäîâûõ ïðèìî÷åê, à òî ó òåáÿ ìåøàíèíà. Ïåðå÷èòàé ñâîè æå ïîñòû.
>>À ìíå íå íàäî îáúÿñíÿòü, êàêèì îáðàçîì äîëæíû áûòü "ñòàðûå" è "íîâûå" ïåäàëè â áîðäå è ÷òî äëÿ ýòîãî íóæíî

>Íå òîëüêî îëäîâûå ïðèìî÷êè, íî è ñîâðåìåííûå ñòðàäàþò ýòîé "áîëåçíüþ" ...(çà ðåäêèì èñêëþ÷åíèåì)

ïðè÷èíà ýòîãî íàõîäèòñÿ â èñòîðè÷åñêî-êîíñòðóêöèîííîé îñîáåííîñòè ïðèìî÷åê :idea2:
...Βυζαντινή Ρωμαίοι εδω ... Φαειτ τα σκαταμ.
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Òåìà: Re: MXR M-117R
Âðåìÿ: 13.06.2015 20:08 



>>Áîññû, êñòàòè, òàê æå íå ïðåäíàçíà÷åíû äëÿ ðàçðûâà ;)
ìäý.. :chaos:

ïîíèìàþ, ÷òî "ïðîôåññèîíàëèçì" íåêîòîðûõ îðàòîðîâ òóò çàøêàëèâàåò.. íî âñ¸ æå.. êàê-áý Êîïåòàí íàìåêàåò, ÷òî "ïåòëè" ìåæ ïðåäîì è êîíöîì áûâàþò ðàçíûå. ïîñëåäîâàòåëüíûå/ïàðàëëåëüíûå, ðåãóëèðóåìûå/íåðåãóëèðóåìûå è ò.ï. è ò.ä.. ó íåêîòîðûõ àïïàðàòîâ ïåòëè çàòî÷åíû ïîä "êèëîìåòðîâûå" êàáåëè äî áîðäà (è îáðàòíî, îãà!). "ïåòëÿ" - ðàâíî êàê è êîììóòàöèÿ ïðåäà ñ êîíöîì - íå ñòàíäàðòèçèðîâàíà, ÷òî è äà¸ò ìíîæåñòâî âàðèàíòîâ èñïîëíåíèÿ.

Choko , åñëè áóäåò âàðèàíò - ïîïðîáóé ñ ïàðàëëåëüíîé (ðåãóëèðóåìîé) ïåòë¸é. õîòÿ âàðèàíò ñ ïîäáîðîì ðåçþêîâ/(ñ ïîäñòðîå÷íèêàìè) - áîëåå Ú. ïìñì.
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Òåìà: Re: MXR M-117R
Âðåìÿ: 13.06.2015 20:54 
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>÷òî "ïåòëè" ìåæ ïðåäîì è êîíöîì áûâàþò ðàçíûå. ïîñëåäîâàòåëüíûå/ïàðàëëåëüíûå, ðåãóëèðóåìûå/íåðåãóëèðóåìûå è ò.ï. è ò.ä..

åñëè ïåòëÿ ïàðàëëåëüíàÿ è èìååò ðåãóëèðîâêó âûõîäíîãî (è âõîäíîãî) óðîâíÿ --- ïðîáëåì íåò :agree:

íî, íà ïðàêòèêå ïàðàëëåëüíûå ïåòëè âñòðå÷àþòñÿ ðåäêî ...â îñíîâíîì -- ïîñëåäîâàòåëüíûå ;)
...Βυζαντινή Ρωμαίοι εδω ... Φαειτ τα σκαταμ.
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Òåìà: Re: MXR M-117R
Âðåìÿ: 13.06.2015 21:00 
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>>>Áîññû, êñòàòè, òàê æå íå ïðåäíàçíà÷åíû äëÿ ðàçðûâà
>ìäý..


à ÷òî òåáÿ ñìóòèëî?

âîçüìè ìàíóàë ëþáîé ïðèìî÷êè(stomp box) Áîññ è ïîñìîòðè âõîäíîé óðîâåíü ñèãíàëà .... òàì áóäåò -20dB

à â ðàçðûâå îáû÷íî âûõîäíîé óðîâåíü ðàâåí -10dB

-20dB è -10dB ...... ðàçíèöó óëàâëèâàåøü? ;) .... èç-çà ýòîé ðàçíèöû è âåñü ãèìîð ... ;)

-20dB --- ýòî ãèòàðíûé ñèãíàë
-10dB --- ýòî ëèíåéíûé ñèãíàë
...Βυζαντινή Ρωμαίοι εδω ... Φαειτ τα σκαταμ.
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Òåìà: Re: MXR M-117R
Âðåìÿ: 14.06.2015 00:04 
Ìîñêîâñêèå çàäâîðêè.
Ïàëî÷êè ñàìîïàëî÷êè

>Choko , åñëè áóäåò âàðèàíò - ïîïðîáóé ñ ïàðàëëåëüíîé (ðåãóëèðóåìîé) ïåòë¸é. õîòÿ âàðèàíò ñ ïîäáîðîì ðåçþêîâ/(ñ ïîäñòðîå÷íèêàìè) - áîëåå Ú. ïìñì.

îáà âàðèàíòà ïðîáîâàë, è ïîñëåäîâàòåëüíóþ è ïàðàëëåëüíóþ
ðåãóëèðóåìûå (send/return/mix, presence/output) - ïðîñòî íå ìî¸, è âñ¸
ìíå êàòèò êîãäà ìîäóëÿöèè ïåðåä ïðåàìïîì

ýòî êàê ñ äèëååì, â îñíîâíîì âñå ïðåäïî÷èòàþò ïîñëå ïåðåãðóçà, è åñòü îòäåëüíûå èíäèâèäóóìû, êòî ëþáèò äî ïåðåãðóçà ñòàâèòü
"òû òàê ãîâîðèøü, áóäòî óáèéñòâî æèâîãî ñóùåñòâà - ýòî ÷òî-òî ïëîõîå" © Ëåáåäèíûé õðóñò
"It never ceases to amaze me, people in an effects forum complaining about somebody using too many effects" ©
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Òåìà: Re: MXR M-117R
Âðåìÿ: 14.06.2015 09:55 
Ìîñêâà
Ibanez MMM1

>è åñòü îòäåëüíûå èíäèâèäóóìû, êòî ëþáèò äî ïåðåãðóçà ñòàâèòü
èëè â ðàçðûâ íàïîëüíîãî ïðåàìïà :yak: åíòî ÿ
Ibanez MMM1 => AMT WH-1 => BOSS PH-2 => input AMT SS-11b send => Mooer PitchBox => Mooer Trelicopter => Vox DelayLab => return AMT SS-11b output => AMT RY-1 => Brightone MB-1 => Tuner
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Òåìà: Re: MXR M-117R
Âðåìÿ: 14.06.2015 10:13 
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> è åñòü îòäåëüíûå èíäèâèäóóìû, êòî ëþáèò äî ïåðåãðóçà ñòàâèòü

:agree:

à ÿ ñòàâëþ îêîíå÷íèê ïåðåä ïåðåãðóçîì :crazy: ...... êðóòî çâó÷èò :super: ..... âñåì ñîâåòóþ :ulyb:
...Βυζαντινή Ρωμαίοι εδω ... Φαειτ τα σκαταμ.
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Òåìà: Re: MXR M-117R
Âðåìÿ: 15.06.2015 10:06 
Ìîñêîâñêèå çàäâîðêè.
Ïàëî÷êè ñàìîïàëî÷êè

ÿ òîæå òàê áàëîâàëñÿ, ïðèêîëüíî ïî âñÿêîìó, :agree:
"òû òàê ãîâîðèøü, áóäòî óáèéñòâî æèâîãî ñóùåñòâà - ýòî ÷òî-òî ïëîõîå" © Ëåáåäèíûé õðóñò
"It never ceases to amaze me, people in an effects forum complaining about somebody using too many effects" ©
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Òåìà: Re: MXR M-117R
Âðåìÿ: 15.06.2015 10:31 
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>ÿ òîæå òàê áàëîâàëñÿ, ïðèêîëüíî ïî âñÿêîìó,


íó, äà ...... :agree: ...à åñëè åù¸ äâà ïàëüöà â ðîçåòêó âîòêíóòü --- ãîâîðÿò, ïðèêîëüíî áóäåò äî óñ¸ðà :idea2:
...Βυζαντινή Ρωμαίοι εδω ... Φαειτ τα σκαταμ.
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Òåìà: Re: MXR M-117R
Âðåìÿ: 15.06.2015 16:10 
Ìîñêîâñêèå çàäâîðêè.
Ïàëî÷êè ñàìîïàëî÷êè

ïðî ýòî â ñîñåäíåé òåìå ñ Äèåçîì ãîâîðèëè :agree:
"òû òàê ãîâîðèøü, áóäòî óáèéñòâî æèâîãî ñóùåñòâà - ýòî ÷òî-òî ïëîõîå" © Ëåáåäèíûé õðóñò
"It never ceases to amaze me, people in an effects forum complaining about somebody using too many effects" ©
 ýòîò ôîðóì ìîãóò ïèñàòü òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûå ïîëüçîâàòåëè!