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Òåìà: Ïåðåäåëàë TS9 â TS808. Îêàçûâàåòñÿ âñå ïðîùå ïàðåíîé ðåïû. Ïî÷åìó ìíå îá ýòîì íèêòî íå ñêàçàë? :pitka:
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Íèìàãó íå ïîäåëèòüñÿ  Òåìà ñòðîãî äëÿ ôîíàäîâ ñêðèìåðà.  Îêàçûâàåòñÿ ÒÑ9 è ÒÑ808 â ñõåìå îòëè÷àþòñÿ òîëüêî äâóìÿ ðåçèñòîðàìè.  Îá ýòîì ÿ óçíàë íà ïèíäîñêèõ ôîðóìàõ. Âìåñòî ðåçèñòîðà íà 470 Îì è 100 êÎì êàê â ÒÑ9 ñòàâÿòñÿ ðåçèñòîðû íà 100 Îì è 10 êÎì ñîîòâåòñòâåííî, êàê íà ÒÑ808. Íà êàðòèíêå îáâåäåíû êðóãîì. Ðåçóëüòàò ïîíðàâèëñÿ. Áûë ïðîâåðåí ñåãîäíÿ âå÷åðîì, â êîìàíäå. Çâó÷èò êàê ïî ìíå ëó÷øå ÷åì ÒÑ9, îäíîçíà÷íî  Áîëåå îòêðûòûé è ïðàâèëüíûé çâóê ïîëó÷èëñÿ.  ÒÑ9 ñëèøêîì ïëîòíûé, è ñëèøêîì óæ çàæàòûé áûë íà ìîé âêóñ. Ñòàâèòü îáðàòíî íå áóäó òî÷íî  Êòî-òî ñïðîñèò, à íå ïðîùå ëè êóïèòü ÒÑ808? Îòâå÷ó ñðàçó: íå ïðîùå, âî-ïåðâûõ ðåæå ïîïàäàþòñÿ, âî-âòîðûõ ñòîÿò íàìíîãî äîðîæå  À ïîêóïêà ðåçèñòîðîâ îáîøëàñü ìíå â òðè êîïåéêè Ïàÿë ñàì, êñòàòè î÷åíü çàíÿòíîå äåëî Íèêîãäà áû íå ïîäóìàë  Õîòÿ äàò÷åãè íà ãèòàðó ñòàâèë ñàì, íî ýòî óæå äàâíåíüêî áûëî 
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Òåìà: Re: Ïåðåäåëàë TS9 â TS808. Îêàçûâàåòñÿ âñå ïðîùå ïàðåíîé ðåïû. Ïî÷åìó ìíå îá ýòîì íèêòî íå ñêàçàë? :pitka:
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Íà þòóáå äàæå âèäîñ ñäåëàëè êàê è ÷î ïàÿòü, åùå è ñî ñðàâíåíèåì. Òàê ÷òî äàæå ñýìïëû äåëàòü íå íàäî |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïåðåäåëàë TS9 â TS808. Îêàçûâàåòñÿ âñå ïðîùå ïàðåíîé ðåïû. Ïî÷åìó ìíå îá ýòîì íèêòî íå ñêàçàë? :pitka:
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À ïðî îòëè÷èå â ìèêðîñõåìàõ çà áóãðîì íè÷åãî íå íàïèñàëè òèïà Ibanez TS-808 JRC4558D vs Ibanez TS-9 Toshiba TA75558 ? | |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïåðåäåëàë TS9 â TS808. Îêàçûâàåòñÿ âñå ïðîùå ïàðåíîé ðåïû. Ïî÷åìó ìíå îá ýòîì íèêòî íå ñêàçàë? :pitka:
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Åùå ïàðàëëåëüíî ïðîáîâàë ñäåëàòü ìîä - áóñò íèçêèõ ÷àñòîò. Òàì íàäî áûëî ïåðåïàÿòü îäèí êîíäåð íîìèíàëîì 0.047ìêô â 0.1 ìêô. Íåêîòîðûå äàæå ñîâåòóþò â 0.22ìêô. Êîðî÷å ÷åì áîëüøå çíà÷åíèå òåì íèæå ÷àñòîòû  îáùåì íå ïîíðàâèëîñü. Ñ äîáàâëåíèåì Í× ïîÿâèëîñü áîëüøå ðûõëîñòè è ïåðäåæà â çâóêå, ïðîïàëà ÷åòêîñòü. Ïîñòàâèë îáðàòíî.  îáùåì ðàçðàáîò÷èêè ñêðèìåðà íå çðÿ ñäåëàëè ñðåç Í× â ñêðèìåðå êàê ÿ ïîíÿë 
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Òåìà: Re: Ïåðåäåëàë TS9 â TS808. Îêàçûâàåòñÿ âñå ïðîùå ïàðåíîé ðåïû. Ïî÷åìó ìíå îá ýòîì íèêòî íå ñêàçàë? :pitka:
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>À ïðî îòëè÷èå â ìèêðîñõåìàõ çà áóãðîì íè÷åãî íå íàïèñàëè òèïà Ibanez TS-808 JRC4558D vs Ibanez TS-9 Toshiba TA75558 ïèñàëè òàì ÷åòî, ÿ îñîáî íå îáðàùàë âíèìàíèå íà ýòî ò.ê. ó ìåíÿ ñòîèò ñõåìà JRC4558D. Òàì â ðàçíûå ãîäà ïî ðàçíîìó ñòàâèëè ÿ òàê ïîíÿë.  áóäóùåì ïîïðîáóþ íàéòè JRC4558P Ñèëüíî õâàëÿò åå.
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Òåìà: Re: Ïåðåäåëàë TS9 â TS808. Îêàçûâàåòñÿ âñå ïðîùå ïàðåíîé ðåïû. Ïî÷åìó ìíå îá ýòîì íèêòî íå ñêàçàë? :pitka:
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Òî æå âñòðå÷àë òàêîå î ìàëàçèéñêîì ÷èïå RC4558P | |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïåðåäåëàë TS9 â TS808. Îêàçûâàåòñÿ âñå ïðîùå ïàðåíîé ðåïû. Ïî÷åìó ìíå îá ýòîì íèêòî íå ñêàçàë? :pitka:
Âðåìÿ: 28.09.2014 01:43 |
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Plexi , äà, Texas Instrument JRC4558P äåëàþòñÿ â Ìàëàéçèè. Ñ äðóãîé ñòîðîíû òå æå ïèíäîñû ãîâîðÿò, ÷òî ýòè ÷èïû - áðåä ïîëíåéøèé è ìàðêåòèíã. Ìèêðóõè ýòè ñòîÿò êîïåéêè è ñòàâÿòñÿ êóäà íå ïîïàäÿ íàïðèìåð â äåøåâûå ýëåêòðîííûé ÷àñû, èãðóøêè è ò.ä. Íåêîòîðûå õâàëÿò åùå TL072
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Òåìà: Re: Ïåðåäåëàë TS9 â TS808. Îêàçûâàåòñÿ âñå ïðîùå ïàðåíîé ðåïû. Ïî÷åìó ìíå îá ýòîì íèêòî íå ñêàçàë? :pitka:
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Âîò íàïðèìåð íåêîòîðûå âûïèñêè ñ ñàéòà Analogman. Âçÿòî ñ ýòîãî ôîðóìà: From Analogman's website: "...Also people have asked about chips on ebay that are being sold as "New Old Stock" TS-808 JRC4558D chips. If you want a JRC chip for a project, get a new chip from Steve at Small Bear Electronics who sells them cheap (sorry we dont have time to sell chips or small parts)." "...Early TS-808's have the Ibanez (R) "trademark" logo which some people seek. There is really no difference, although some of these have a Malaysian Texas Instruments RC4558P chip instead of the normal Japanese JRC4558 chip. I can use this chip in the mod if you would like, or can send both the JRC4558D and the RC4558P chips." "...Most TS7 pedals come with the correct JRC4558D chip, so we usually don't have to change the chip in our TS7 mods." From Geofex's website: "...JRC later changed its name to New Japan Radio Corporation and made parts titled "NJM4558". When you order these, you get parts that are labeled "JRC4558". By all reports, these sound as good as the original." "...There is some confusion at present over what is a true or "vintage" JRC4558. Several electronics suppliers list the JRC4558. These are sometimes listed in their catalogs as "NJM4558", but what you get are marked "JRC4558D". By all reports, the current manufacture JRC4558D's sound just as good as the ones current with the manufacture of the original tube screamers. "...There were zillions of the real "JRC4558" made when it was current. They are still available in isolated caches of parts, although they can sometimes be hard to find. Does true "New Old Stock" matter? probably not. In addition, the JRC4558D was used in tons of Japanese audio equipment at about the same time, so a junky cheap Japanese stereo or clock radio could have several hidden inside it." "...Conversion to TS808 - this seems to be a perennial hot one. Simple... just locate the 470 ohm and 100k resistors on the output buffer transistor, tracing back from the output jack, and replace them with a 100 ohm and a 10K. Bang, instant 808. If you're doing this to a TS 10, short out the 1K resistor leading to pin 3 of the dual opamp as well." |
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Ðàçíèöà â çâó÷àíèè ñ ÷èïàìè åñòü, ñ êàêèì-òî çâó÷àíèå áîëåå øåðøàâîå ... | |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïåðåäåëàë TS9 â TS808. Îêàçûâàåòñÿ âñå ïðîùå ïàðåíîé ðåïû. Ïî÷åìó ìíå îá ýòîì íèêòî íå ñêàçàë? :pitka:
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>Ðàçíèöà â çâó÷àíèè ñ ÷èïàìè åñòü, ñ êàêèì-òî çâó÷àíèå áîëåå øåðøàâîå ... ìîæíî ïîïðîáîâàòü íàêóïèòü èõ ðàçíûõ öåëîå âåäðî è ìåíÿòü òóäà ñþäà  òåì áîëåå, ÷òî òàì ïî ìîåìó ñîêåò ïîçâîëÿåò ýòî äåëàòü áåç ïàéêè, çàñóíóë-âûñóíóë Ïî êðàéíåé ìåðå åñëè íåò ñîêåòà ýòîãî òî åãî ìîæíî òóäà ïîñòàâèòü è èçâðàùàòüñÿ ïîòîì ñêîëüêî âëåçåò
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Òåìà: Re: Ïåðåäåëàë TS9 â TS808. Îêàçûâàåòñÿ âñå ïðîùå ïàðåíîé ðåïû. Ïî÷åìó ìíå îá ýòîì íèêòî íå ñêàçàë? :pitka:
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OdinMan Ñìîòðè, ÷òî áû ýòà òåìà òåáÿ íå çàòÿíóëà ñâåðõ ìåðû , à òî íà ãèòàðó âðåìåíè íå áóäåò ... |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïåðåäåëàë TS9 â TS808. Îêàçûâàåòñÿ âñå ïðîùå ïàðåíîé ðåïû. Ïî÷åìó ìíå îá ýòîì íèêòî íå ñêàçàë? :pitka:
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Plexi , íå çàòÿíåò Íàîáîðîò ðàçâåÿòüñÿ ïîìîãàåò ò.ê. èãðàþ ìíîãî ùàñ Ãëàâíîå íå ïåðåïàëèòü òàì ÷åíèáóäü. Õîòÿ òîæå îïûò
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Òåìà: Re: Ïåðåäåëàë TS9 â TS808. Îêàçûâàåòñÿ âñå ïðîùå ïàðåíîé ðåïû. Ïî÷åìó ìíå îá ýòîì íèêòî íå ñêàçàë? :pitka:
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>Ìèêðóõè ýòè ñòîÿò êîïåéêè è ñòàâÿòñÿ êóäà íå ïîïàäÿ íàïðèìåð â äåøåâûå ýëåêòðîííûé ÷àñû, èãðóøêè è ò.ä. Íåêîòîðûå õâàëÿò åùå TL072  òàéâàíüñêîé ïåäàëè áîññà îíè òîæå ñòîÿò  Íî äæðñ åñòü è ÿïîíñêèå, õîòÿ ñòîÿò òîæå íå òàê óæ è äîðîãî.À âîò òë072 ýòî øëàê ïîëíåéøèé ïðîñòî íàïðîñòî, óæ ëó÷å îïà604. >Ãëàâíîå íå ïåðåïàëèòü òàì ÷åíèáóäü. Õîòÿ òîæå îïûòú Åñëè äîðîæêè íå íà÷íóò îòñòàèâàòüñÿ îò ïåðåïàèâàíèé òî íè÷åãî íå ïåðåïàëèøü)))) |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïåðåäåëàë TS9 â TS808. Îêàçûâàåòñÿ âñå ïðîùå ïàðåíîé ðåïû. Ïî÷åìó ìíå îá ýòîì íèêòî íå ñêàçàë? :pitka:
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OdinMan , íè÷åãî íå ïîíÿë,íî îäîáðÿþ 
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Òåìà: Re: Ïåðåäåëàë TS9 â TS808. Îêàçûâàåòñÿ âñå ïðîùå ïàðåíîé ðåïû. Ïî÷åìó ìíå îá ýòîì íèêòî íå ñêàçàë? :pitka:
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OdinMan , Òû òàê è ìîäèñòîì ñòàíåøü
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Òåìà: Re: Ïåðåäåëàë TS9 â TS808. Îêàçûâàåòñÿ âñå ïðîùå ïàðåíîé ðåïû. Ïî÷åìó ìíå îá ýòîì íèêòî íå ñêàçàë? :pitka:
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Ïîçäðàâëÿþ! Ïóòü èíòåðåñíûé, õîòü è ñêîëüçêèé)) >Êòî-òî ñïðîñèò, à íå ïðîùå ëè êóïèòü ÒÑ808? Îòâå÷ó ñðàçó: íå ïðîùå, âî-ïåðâûõ ðåæå ïîïàäàþòñÿ, âî-âòîðûõ ñòîÿò íàìíîãî äîðîæå 808-îé è âïðàâäó ðåæå âñòðå÷àåòñÿ, íî öåíà ðàçëè÷àåòñÿ íå òàê ñèëüíî, 808-îé â ñðåäíåì 4500-5000 çà á/ó, 9-îé 3500-4000. Íó è åù¸ ìîìåíò: 808-ûì ïðèÿòíî îáëàäàòü, ïîòîìó ÷òî îí êðàñèâûé
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Òåìà: Re: Ïåðåäåëàë TS9 â TS808. Îêàçûâàåòñÿ âñå ïðîùå ïàðåíîé ðåïû. Ïî÷åìó ìíå îá ýòîì íèêòî íå ñêàçàë? :pitka:
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>OdinMan , íè÷åãî íå ïîíÿë,íî îäîáðÿþ  >öåíà ðàçëè÷àåòñÿ íå òàê ñèëüíî, 808-îé â ñðåäíåì 4500-5000 çà á/ó, 9-îé 3500-4000. ó íàñ âñòðå÷àë ðàçíèöó ìèíèìóì â 50% çà á/ó ÿ åñëè ÷åñòíî òîæå íà 808 áûë íàöåëåí, íî òàê ñëó÷èëîñü, ÷òî ìíå ïîïàëñÿ òñ9 íîâûé è íèæå ðûíî÷íîé öåíû çà á/ó è ÿ íå óñòîÿë  >Íó è åù¸ ìîìåíò: 808-ûì ïðèÿòíî îáëàäàòü, ïîòîìó ÷òî îí êðàñèâûé òðóäíî ïîñïîðèòü êîíå÷íî íî òîò ôàêò, ÷òî íàïðèìåð ó ÑРáûëè ïî÷òè âñå ìîäåëè: ÒÑ808, ÒÑ9 è ÒÑ10 - óñïîêàèâàåò
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Òåìà: Re: Ïåðåäåëàë TS9 â TS808. Îêàçûâàåòñÿ âñå ïðîùå ïàðåíîé ðåïû. Ïî÷åìó ìíå îá ýòîì íèêòî íå ñêàçàë? :pitka:
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ß èõ ñðàâíèâàë êîãäà òî â ìàãàçèíå, â îäèí êîìá (Ðîëàíä êóá) è íà îäíîé ãèòàðå (ñòðàòîêàñòåð) òàê îíè ïî òåìáðó îäèíàêîâûå, òîëüêî 808 î÷åíü ò¸ïëûé çâóê, à ts9 íåò. |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïåðåäåëàë TS9 â TS808. Îêàçûâàåòñÿ âñå ïðîùå ïàðåíîé ðåïû. Ïî÷åìó ìíå îá ýòîì íèêòî íå ñêàçàë? :pitka:
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À âîîáùå âñå ïåäàëè øëàê, ïî ñðàâíåíèþ ñ ðîäíûì ïåðåãðóçîì Õîðîøèõ óñèëèòåëåé. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïåðåäåëàë TS9 â TS808. Îêàçûâàåòñÿ âñå ïðîùå ïàðåíîé ðåïû. Ïî÷åìó ìíå îá ýòîì íèêòî íå ñêàçàë? :pitka:
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Òåìà: Re: Ïåðåäåëàë TS9 â TS808. Îêàçûâàåòñÿ âñå ïðîùå ïàðåíîé ðåïû. Ïî÷åìó ìíå îá ýòîì íèêòî íå ñêàçàë? :pitka:
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OdinMan , òû ñëîìàë ñèñòåìó
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Ýòî ñåé÷àñ âñå ïî íàðîøêè. À ðàíüøå. Êàê æèëè òàê è èãðàëè.
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Òåìà: Re: Ïåðåäåëàë TS9 â TS808. Îêàçûâàåòñÿ âñå ïðîùå ïàðåíîé ðåïû. Ïî÷åìó ìíå îá ýòîì íèêòî íå ñêàçàë? :pitka:
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Ìîñêâà SD Custom Guitar
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>Â ÒÑ9 ñëèøêîì ïëîòíûé ïîýòîìó èìåííî îí ìíå è íðà 
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Ýòî ñåé÷àñ âñå ïî íàðîøêè. À ðàíüøå. Êàê æèëè òàê è èãðàëè.
http://vk.com/ivandeus http://www.youtube.com/c/Deussoftwebru |
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Òåìà: Re: Ïåðåäåëàë TS9 â TS808. Îêàçûâàåòñÿ âñå ïðîùå ïàðåíîé ðåïû. Ïî÷åìó ìíå îá ýòîì íèêòî íå ñêàçàë? :pitka:
Âðåìÿ: 28.09.2014 23:36 |
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Fender
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>> ÒÑ9 ñëèøêîì ïëîòíûé >ïîýòîìó èìåííî îí ìíå è íðà çíà÷èò òåáå íå íàäî íè÷åãî ïåðåïàèâàòü
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Òåìà: Re: Ïåðåäåëàë TS9 â TS808. Îêàçûâàåòñÿ âñå ïðîùå ïàðåíîé ðåïû. Ïî÷åìó ìíå îá ýòîì íèêòî íå ñêàçàë? :pitka:
Âðåìÿ: 02.10.2014 17:28 |
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Åñòü
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Ñòàâèòü óæ ñðàçó ïåðåìåííûå ðåçèñòîðû ñ ðó÷êîé ñíàðóæóè èëè õîòÿ áû ïîäñòðîå÷íûå ïîä îòâåðòêó - âîò òîãäà è áóäåò ÷åì ïîèçâðàùàòüñÿ. | |
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