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Òåìà: Fender Blues Junior Mod
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Êîðî÷å, êóðèë âñÿêèå áóðæóéñêèå ôîðóìû ïî ïîâîäó Fender Blues Junior Ïî ñëîâàì áóðæóéñêèõ êðèòèêîâ, óìåëüöåâ è èì ïîäîáíûì, ïîòåíöèàë äàæå â ñòîêîâîì âàðèàíòå êîìïëåêòóõè ó êîìáèêà áîëüøîé. Ïðè ÷åì â ìåêñèêàíñêèõ âåðñèÿõ, ïðîèçâîäñòâî êîòîðûõ íà÷àëîñü â 2001 ãîäó íà÷àëè óáèðàòü íåêîòîðûå , ïðèñóùèå àìåðèêàíöàì ðîäîâûå òðàâìû òèïà êàê ïîâûøåííûé øóì è ïðî÷. Êñòàòè , àìåðèêàíöû èìåëè òåìíîå , íèçàñòîå çâó÷àíèå, òîãäà êàê ñàìîå ÿðêîå èìååò ìåêñ. âåðñèÿ Junior III. Äàëüøå áîëüøå áëà- áëà- áëà . ïîòîì ïî õîäó äîïîëíþ åñëè ÷òî Âîò ÷òî ìåíÿ çàöåïèëî ïî çâó÷àíèþ Ýòî ìèíèìàëüíûé â òåõíè÷åñêîì ïëàíå ìîä, íî ïî äåíüãàì ìîæåò çàäåòü... Êîðî÷å, ìàëåíüêàÿ êîíñòðóêöèÿ êàáèíåòà è ñòîêîâûå äèíàìèêè õåðà÷àò çàëîæåííûé ïîòåíöèàë çâó÷àíèÿ êîìáèêà äàæå ñ òîé êîìïëåêòóõîé, êîòîðàÿ èìååòñÿ. Òàê âîò, íà âèäåî ñòîêîâûé êàáèíåò Blues Jr. áûëà çàìåíåí íà 5E3-sized cabinet , ò.å. 5E3 DELUXE TWEED STYLE CABINET . À äèíàìèê óñòàíîâëåí JBL D120 speaker.  èòîãå èìååì çâó÷àíèå ðîäíîãî ïåðåãðóçà Fender Bl Jr. Êñòàòè, äàæå áàíàëüíàÿ çàìåíà äèíàìèêà, ìîæåò óëó÷øèòü çâó÷àíèå â öåëîì. Âîò íà àíãëèéñêîì, âîçìîæíî êîìó-íèáóäü ïðèãîäèòñÿ The Right Speaker for your Blues Junior Aftermarket speakers, like tubes, are not really a mod. But they do change the way your Blues Junior moves air and the tones that get emphasized. They may partially mask an amp’s flaws, but the right approach is to make the amp sound great first, then use the speaker to give it that final push in the tone direction you want to go. It should be your last mod, not your first. People who say that a new speaker has cured the Blues Junior’s inherent boxy tone simply haven’t heard a Blues Junior with proper tone stack and power supply mods. See the bottom of the page for easy instructions on how to change the speaker. My customers and I have collectively tried many different speakers, but I’ll limit my comments to speakers that I’ve spent some time with and have a feel for the tone. Fender Special Design (stock speaker) This is the stock speaker in all black and blonde Tolex Blues Juniors and old green board tweeds. The speaker is made by Eminence and it’s roughly equivalent to the Legend 125/1258. This speaker has been used in hundreds of thousands of Fender amps, including the Deluxe Reverb, Hot Rod Deluxe, Twin Reverb, Blues Deluxe, and many others. It’s a decent, all-around speaker. It doesn’t have the deepest bass, and the highs can sound kind of fizzy, but it’s well balanced. Many people decide to leave it alone after they do the mods. The “farty” tone in the bass of a stock Blues Junior is mostly due to poor design decisions in the amp, not flaws in the speaker. One surprising new observation about the stock speaker: The more power you give it, the better it sounds. My 5881-powered 25-watt Blues Junior has the stock speaker in it, and it sounds awesome. The Billm basic mods will go a long way to helping this speaker deliver. Jensen C12N (stock in tweed limited edition and “NOS” models) This reissue Jensen is built in Italy by Recoton. They’ve made an effort to capture some of the old “American sound” magic of the Jensens that were so popular in the 1960s, but they fall short in some significant areas. The C12N starts out well in the bass and transitions well to a smooth midrange, but this speaker can be downright shrill on the high end, especially with a Tele or Strat bridge pickup. On the plus side, the C12N cuts well in a band situtation and is less likely to be buried. It sounds better after a lengthy break-in period, but it’s definitely not my favorite speaker. Eminence Texas Heat The Texas Heat is one of the most popular of Eminence’s line of Patriot speakers, and for good reason. It has great tonal breadth, strong bass, prominent, slightly smoky mids, and a smooth top end. When The ToneQuest Report tested a bunch of the Patriots a couple of years ago, they reported that the Texas Heat improved every amp they tried it in–and they tried a lot. It’s more efficient than most other aftermarket speakers, so you get your 15 watts’ worth. The only criticism I have of the Texas Heat is that when playing clean, the highs can sound a bit disconnected from the rest of the tone, almost as if my high E string was connected to another, smaller speaker. It sounds better if you roll off the bass and boost the mids a bit to fill it in. And when you crank it, distortion tones are sweet, not spiky and harsh. Eminence Cannabis Rex The Cannabis Rex gets its name from its hemp cone. Hemp fibers strengthen the cone and impart a different flavor than typical paper cones. The cones are made for Eminence by Tone Tubby, the leader in hemp-cone speakers. This is the warm/clean jazz speaker! It’s a great clean speaker, but its cleans have that hemp cone personality–soft-edged, but not mushy. It handles overdrive and distortion very well when you push it. It’s very efficient, one of the loudest speakers you can put in an amp, and it pushes out pretty, round bass notes really well. The top end is very sweet, even forgiving. This speaker couldn’t make a harsh note if it tried and is beautifully balanced bottom to top. Super for creamy lead work. Eminence Red White and Blues If your idea of electric guitar is crisp, bright, staccato bursts, clear, sizzling chords, with lots of top-end sparkle and tight, tight bass, this is your speaker. One player’s “tight bass” is another’s “no bass,” however. So if you like booming lows that flap your pants legs, that you can feel in the soles of your feet, look elsewhere. This is a great lead guitar speaker for many kinds of rock, searing bright country, or to clean the mud off your humbucker tone. Eminence Swamp Thang There’s nothing swampy about the Swamp Thang–this is the loudest, cleanest speaker in Eminence’s lineup, but its response is tilted towards the bass side. Eminence calls the treble response moderate, but I find its highs more prominent than the Texas Heat’s. It produces big, round lows, even in the BJr’s small cabinet. The magnet is huge and it will add noticeable weight to your BJr. It might hit an aftermarket, larger output transformer like the Heyboer I use. You can probably spin the baffle 180 degrees to place it at the lower right instead of upper left (from the back) for clearance. I use the Swamp Thang on my test bench because it’s so clean (I want to hear the amp, not the speaker) and the moderate highs keep the ice pick tones out of my ears. The Swamp Thang is not a truly neutral speaker; it adds a warm, woodwind-like undertone. Eminence GB12/GB128 This speaker from the Legend line is Eminence’s take on the famous Celestion Greenback. It’s an improved, affordable Greenback, with great, deep, lows, that classic British smoky tone, bass that manages to be fat and round-toned without being overpowering, strong mids, and nicely restrained highs. It may be one of the best speakers you can buy for blues tone. Eminence Wizard I don’t see many British-voiced Eminence speakers in Blues Juniors, but this one is pretty interesting. The bass is firm, with an aggressive edge to it, not round like the Cannabis Rex, GB128, or even the Jensen C12K. The highs are bright and crisp, also with an aggressive edge to them, like the Red White and Blues, but with more bass. And in true British fashion, the midrange is colored, too. Not smoky, like a Greenback, but an interesting, textured tone, rich with harmonics. This is a very efficient, loud speaker and if your Blues Junior is getting buried, this might just be the thing to unearth it. If you like mellow, stay away. If you like to peel their eyelids back with your bridge pickup or put a serious edge on your neck or ‘bucker tone, this one’s for you. Eminence Lil’ Texas Want to put your Blues Junior on a diet but not sacrifice tone? The neodymium-magnet Lil’ Texas is over 4 pounds lighter than the stock speaker and sounds better than the Special Design or the C12N. It has a nice, clear American voice that covers rock, blues, and jazz. It benefits greatly from the basic mods to open up the bottom octave; it sounds a little gutless in a stock Blues Junior. It has a smooth top end, sweet midrange, and firm, non-boomy bass. Eminence says it’s good for country, but I’d choose the Red White and Blues for searing leads. It’s nearly as loud as the Swamp Thang; when I plug both in together, it hangs right in there. For a lightweight extension cab, the Lil’ Texas can’t be beat. Celestion Greenback The Greenback (G12M) has always been a good choice for the Blues Junior. It’s a bit quieter than some of the newer designs, but the classic, warm British tone is there in spades. This is the speaker that defined “smoky,” that coloration of midrange tones sought after by blues and blues rock soloists. A classic. Celestion Vintage 30 The V30 was one of the tone pillars of the classic rock era: huge, powerful mids and early breakup. Four of these in a half stack and you were on your way to rock god status. But they were often tempered in half stacks by a pair of Greenbacks to fill out the bottom end. The V30 has less bass and less treble than the stock Special Design speaker. Fender chose the V30 for the Texas Red special edition of the Blues Junior and you can hear the difference right away. It’s a standout for lead guitar and for rhythm guitar that stays out of the way of the bass player. If you like thumpy bass or need clean headroom, look elsewhere. Some players say they get more clean headroom with the V30, but I think that’s because the mids are prominent and that’s the most sensitive area of our hearing, so it sounds louder. Jensen C12K The C12K is Fender’s current choice for the Deluxe Reverb reissue. It sounds somewhat like the Texas Heat, but much more restrained in the highs, maybe even a little dull-sounding, a little more color in the mids, maybe a little dirtier in the bass. But there’s an impressive amount of bass on tap; with a bit of roundness, like the Cannabis Rex. It’s like a rude version of the Swamp Thang, but the ST is a much better speaker overall. This is a loud, efficient speaker. Like the Swamp Thang or Wizard, you’ll feel the increase in weight because of the huge magnet. Compared to many other speakers, the C12K sounds kind of lifeless. It properly tames the highs of the Deluxe Reverb, but doesn’t bring much to the party. Weber California The California is Weber’s clean-and-loud speaker, patterned after the great JBL D120. Like the Swamp Thang, it does what the amp tells it to do, but it’s more balanced in tone and brighter. It’s available with an aluminum dust cap, like the original JBLs, but don’t go there! It’ll be way too bright and beamy. Weber 12F150 The 12F150 is Weber’s idea of what a vintage, US-made C12N would sound like if it were offered today. It gets that brash voice-of-rock ‘n’ roll American tone right, and it’s a popular choice among rock and blues players. Bass is solid, mids are somewhat scooped, highs are bright and clear. One potential point of confusion: the many choices of cone and doping options can greatly change the tone. So two players comparing their 12F150s may almost be discussing apples and oranges. A call or email to Weber’s tech staff will get you the right ingredients for your tone, though. Weber 12A125 I was prepared to dislike the 12A125 based on my experience with other light-coned alnico speakers: no bass, early, unharmonic breakup, etc. I tried it in an unmodded Blues Junior and was unimpressed. But after the mods, the 12A125 really surprised me. If you’re looking for a fast, responsive, bright speaker that just oozes Fender “spank,” this is your speaker. It’s bright, like the Eminence Red White and Blues, but it has a nice, crisp bass, like a tenor who can hit clean, clear low notes, not a deep-voiced baritone. This is an inspiring speaker for bright, clean playing–I heard things from my Tele bridge pickup that I don’t think I’ve heard with any other speaker. The highs get great support from the mids, but the voice is pure American, not a hint of British smoke or thickness. Yes, you can go too far with the bright stuff and make it painful, but that’s what tone controls are for. I had a harder time finding a good overdrive tone with this speaker because it doesn’t like complexity. I had my best results starting with the tone controls off and either the bass or the mids up full. then dial in just enough of the others so it doesn’t sound thin or muffled. Get one of these, plus the basic mods, and kick some Deluxe Reverb ass! This speaker is everything the Jensen P12R wished it was. Jensen P12R Fender chose this speaker for the Relic Blues Junior version. The Relic looks like it was made in the 1950s and lived a very hard life, complete with rust, stains, cat-clawed grille cloth, and tattered tweed. The P12R sounds like it’s from the 1950s too… kind of like an old table radio. This speaker makes the Blues Junior sound like a kazoo on steroids: squawky, nasal, thin, and weak. If you like that old-timey sound, you’ve |
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Òåìà: Re: Fender Blues Junior Mod
Âðåìÿ: 08.02.2013 12:07 |
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Òåìà: Re: Fender Blues Junior Mod
Âðåìÿ: 08.02.2013 12:09 |
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The RAT.The last fuzz you will ever need!
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Òåìà: Re: Fender Blues Junior Mod
Âðåìÿ: 08.02.2013 12:10 |
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>Êñòàòè, äàæå áàíàëüíàÿ çàìåíà äèíàìèêà, ìîæåò óëó÷øèòü çâó÷àíèå â öåëîì. íèôèãà ñåáå, "äàæå" 
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Òåìà: Re: Fender Blues Junior Mod
Âðåìÿ: 08.02.2013 12:11 |
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Ìîñêâà Telec, Strat, LesPaul.... 
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À ÿ äóìàë òàì ÷¸ â ýëåêòðîíèêå ñäåëàíî )) Îäíàêî, äàâíî ÿ âèäàòü ðó÷êó Volume íå âûêðó÷èâàë....äàæå íå çíàë, ÷òî òàêîé ïåðåãðóç òàì  >Êñòàòè, äàæå áàíàëüíàÿ çàìåíà äèíàìèêà, ìîæåò óëó÷øèòü çâó÷àíèå â öåëîì. ß ñðàçó â ñâîå âðåìÿ ïîìåíÿë íà Ãðèíáýê - î÷åâèäíî èíòåðåñíåé ñòàë. |
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Òåìà: Re: Fender Blues Junior Mod
Âðåìÿ: 08.02.2013 12:12 |
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Íó ýòî íà ôîíå òåõíè÷åñêè áîëåå ñëîæíîé âåùè êàê çàìåíà êîìïåêòóõè | |
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Òåìà: Re: Fender Blues Junior Mod
Âðåìÿ: 08.02.2013 16:28 |
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>ïîòåíöèàë äàæå â ñòîêîâîì âàðèàíòå êîìïëåêòóõè ó êîìáèêà áîëüøîé. Çàáóäüòå ïðî âñå ýòè "êîìïëåêòóõè". Òàì ëàæà êîíñòðóêòèâíàÿ, ñâÿçàííàÿ ñ çàòî÷êîé ïîä íåêâàëèôèöèðîâàííûé òðóä. ×àñòè÷íî îíî èñïðàâëÿåòñÿ, ïëþñ íåêîòîðîå óñîâåðøåíñòâîâàíèå ñõåìû. Ðàáîòû ïðèìåðíî íà äåñÿòêó (õîòÿ ìîæíî è áîëüøå òðóäà òóäà âëîæèòü).  èòîãå âñå ðàâíî îñòàþòñÿ ïàðøèâûå òðàíñôîðìàòîðû ñî âñåìè âûòåêàþùèìè. Ïðî äèíàìèê äàæå íå ãîâîðþ. Âîò è âåñü ïîòåíöàë. Íó ñêîëüêî ìîæíî âñå ýòî òåðåòü? Íå ëó÷øå ëè ïîèñêàòü àïïàðàò â êîòîðîì âñå ñðàçó ïî-íîðìàëüíîìó? |
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Òåìà: Re: Fender Blues Junior Mod
Âðåìÿ: 08.02.2013 16:31 |
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>Íó ñêîëüêî ìîæíî âñå ýòî òåðåòü? Íå ëó÷øå ëè ïîèñêàòü àïïàðàò â êîòîðîì âñå ñðàçó ïî-íîðìàëüíîìó? êàêîé íàïðèìåð? |
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Òåìà: Re: Fender Blues Junior Mod
Âðåìÿ: 08.02.2013 16:32 |
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>>Íó ñêîëüêî ìîæíî âñå ýòî òåðåòü? Íå ëó÷øå ëè ïîèñêàòü àïïàðàò â êîòîðîì âñå ñðàçó ïî-íîðìàëüíîìó? >êàêîé íàïðèìåð? Òîæå èíòåðåñíî ìíåíèå) |
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Òåìà: Re: Fender Blues Junior Mod
Âðåìÿ: 08.02.2013 16:33 |
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Òåìà: Re: Fender Blues Junior Mod
Âðåìÿ: 08.02.2013 17:33 |
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Òåìà: Re: Fender Blues Junior Mod
Âðåìÿ: 08.02.2013 17:46 |
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Ìîñêâà Strat, ASAT, SG, Takamine 
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Òåìà: Re: Fender Blues Junior Mod
Âðåìÿ: 08.02.2013 18:37 |
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 êîòîðûé ðàç, ïðî Áëþç Äæóíèîð.  Îòëè÷íûé àïïàðàò, çà ñâîè äåíüãè. Åñëè íóæíî èìåííî Ôåíäåð, áþäæåòíûé è òðàíïîðòàáåëüíûé - ïîêóïàé. Ñìûñëà ìîäèòü íå âèæó, ëó÷øå òîãäà âçÿòü áîëåå ñòàðøåãî ñîáðàòà ïîäîðîæå. Âçðîñëûå äÿäè òèïà Äæåôà Áýêà þçàþò íà ñöåíå è íå çàìîðà÷èâàþòñÿ.
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Òåìà: Re: Fender Blues Junior Mod
Âðåìÿ: 08.02.2013 18:47 |
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>Âçðîñëûå äÿäè òèïà Äæåôà Áýêà þçàþò íà ñöåíå è íå çàìîðà÷èâàþòñÿ. Òàê âðîäå êðîìå íåãî íèêòî è íå þçàåò 
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Òåìà: Re: Fender Blues Junior Mod
Âðåìÿ: 08.02.2013 18:54 |
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Ðàç óæ òàêàÿ òåìà - ïîñîâåòóéòå ïîëíîñòüþ èäåíòè÷íûé áëþç äæóíèîðó àïïàðàò òîëüêî êëàññîì âûøå? Ìîæíî ñ ïåðåãðóçîì. Ãëàâíîå, ÷òîá áûëè òàêèå æå ãàáàðèòû, ÷óäåñíûé êëèí, ìàñòåð âîëþì è íå íóæíî áûëî á ìîðî÷èòüñÿ ñ äîñòàâêîé, à òóïî êóïèòü. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Fender Blues Junior Mod
Âðåìÿ: 08.02.2013 19:05 |
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Jim_Bud , ’65 Princeton Reverb? | |
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Òåìà: Re: Fender Blues Junior Mod
Âðåìÿ: 09.02.2013 00:35 |
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Êñòàòè, èíòåðåñíî âñåãäà áûëî óçíàòü íàñ÷¸ò çâó÷àíèÿ Eminence, à òî âñ¸ ñòîêîâûé ñìåíèòü ìå÷òàþ! Ñòîèò ëè ñìîòðåòü â ñòîðîíó âñÿêèõ Red Coat è Patriot? Èëè íå ìó÷àòüñÿ è Vintage 30 âçÿòü? | |
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Òåìà: Re: Fender Blues Junior Mod
Âðåìÿ: 09.02.2013 01:58 |
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Ìîñêâà Telec, Strat, LesPaul....
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>’65 Princeton Reverb? Êñòàòè âïîëíå....íî, ïðè öåíå â 1000$ â øòàòàõ, ó íàñ åãî çàðÿæàþò ïîä 75 000 ð. Íó ýòî æå ïè...ö êàêîé-òî.. À ïðè ýòîì, `65 DELUXE REVERB 22 WATTS/1-12, êîòîðûé ÈÌÕÎ èíòåðåñíåå, ñòîèò ÷óòü ëè íå äåøåâëå - ìåíüøå 70 000 À â øòàòàõ - òå æå 1000 ... Ïðè òîì ÷òî îí ìîùíåå 22W, 2 êàíàëà, 12" ..... Ïî÷åìó, êòî â êóðñå? |
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Òåìà: Re: Fender Blues Junior Mod
Âðåìÿ: 09.02.2013 02:55 |
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Moskwah-wah-wah Äâà
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>Êñòàòè, èíòåðåñíî âñåãäà áûëî óçíàòü íàñ÷¸ò çâó÷àíèÿ Eminence, à òî âñ¸ ñòîêîâûé ñìåíèòü ìå÷òàþ! Ñòîèò ëè ñìîòðåòü â ñòîðîíó âñÿêèõ Red Coat è Patriot? Èëè íå ìó÷àòüñÿ è Vintage 30 âçÿòü? Ìîãó ïîìåíÿòü ýìèíåíñ íà âèíòàæ 30
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Òåìà: Re: Fender Blues Junior Mod
Âðåìÿ: 09.02.2013 08:42 |
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ìîñêâà áåðåçîâàÿ êîðà 
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>Êñòàòè âïîëíå....íî, ïðè öåíå â 1000$ â øòàòàõ, ó íàñ åãî çàðÿæàþò ïîä 75 000 ð. Íó ýòî æå ïè...ö êàêîé-òî.. >À ïðè ýòîì, `65 DELUXE REVERB 22 WATTS/1-12, êîòîðûé ÈÌÕÎ èíòåðåñíåå, ñòîèò ÷óòü ëè íå äåøåâëå - ìåíüøå 70 000 >À â øòàòàõ - òå æå 1000 ... Ïðè òîì ÷òî îí ìîùíåå 22W, 2 êàíàëà, 12" ..... >Ïî÷åìó, êòî â êóðñå? - õîðîøî ÷òî íå 5000$! íàøè ìîãóò öåíó âëóïèòü! |
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Òåìà: Re: Fender Blues Junior Mod
Âðåìÿ: 09.02.2013 19:27 |
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Jim_Bud , à ÷å òû íà ðèâåðå íå èãðàåøü?) | |
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Gibson EB bass/Gibson LP Std
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Òåìà: Re: Fender Blues Junior Mod
Âðåìÿ: 10.02.2013 14:31 |
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>Ìîãó ïîìåíÿòü ýìèíåíñ íà âèíòàæ 30 Òàê ìåíÿòü ïîêà íå÷åãî, ïîòîìó è èíòåðåñíî óçíàòü ïðî àìåðèêèíöåâ! Èëè ïîòîì âñ¸ ðàâíî Emi ìåíÿòü ïðèä¸òñÿ?
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Òåìà: Re: Fender Blues Junior Mod
Âðåìÿ: 10.02.2013 20:50 |
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>Òàê âðîäå êðîìå íåãî íèêòî è íå þçàåò íîýë ãàëëàõåð, åñëè äëÿ êîãî-íèáóäü çäåñü îí àâòîðèòåò
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