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Òåìà: Rat 2 (USA) vs. Rat 2 (China)
Âðåìÿ: 22.12.2011 21:13 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã


Èìåþ îáû÷íóþ êèòàéñêóþ Rat 2..
ïîäóìûâàþ ïðèîáðåñòè Rat 2 ñäåëàíyþ äàâíî â USA
 ñâÿçè ñ ýòèì âîïðîñ.. à êàêîâà ðàçíèöà ìåæäó íèìè.
Èìåë ëè êòî äåëî ñ îáåèìè è åñòü ëè òàêàÿ ñóùåñòâåííàÿ ðàçíèöà â çâó÷àíèå?
Ñòîèò ëè çàïàðèâàòüñÿ ñ ïîêóïêîé ñòàðîé àìåðèêàíñêîé êðûñû?
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Òåìà: Re: Rat 2 (USA) vs. Rat 2 (China)
Âðåìÿ: 22.12.2011 21:51 
ïåðåôåðèÿ
è ðûæèé êîò

>à êàêîâà ðàçíèöà ìåæäó íèìè.
öåíà :4:
:ap:
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Òåìà: Re: Rat 2 (USA) vs. Rat 2 (China)
Âðåìÿ: 22.12.2011 21:56 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã


>>à êàêîâà ðàçíèöà ìåæäó íèìè.
>öåíà

íàñ÷åò öåíû ÿ áû ïîñïîðèë, à âîò òðàíçþêè èëè ÷åãî åùå âðîäå êàê ðàçíûå
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Òåìà: Re: Rat 2 (USA) vs. Rat 2 (China)
Âðåìÿ: 22.12.2011 21:58 

guitar

÷èï lm308. ñëóøàë è êèòàé è àìåðèêó - àìåðèêà ëó÷øå. åñëè èñïîëüçîâàòü êðûñó ïî ïîëíîé, òî òî÷íî àìåðèêà, åñëè íóæåí êàêîé-íèáóäü îäèí çâóê, ìîæíî è êèòàåì îáîéòèñü.
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Òåìà: Re: Rat 2 (USA) vs. Rat 2 (China)
Âðåìÿ: 22.12.2011 23:05 

guitars

Ðàçíèöà åñòü. Ëó÷øå âñåãî çâó÷àò ñòàðûå Rat -2 êîíöà 80-õ, õóæå àìåðèêàíöû
2000-õ , ïîòîì â êîíöå ïî êà÷åñòâó êèòàéñêèå
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Òåìà: Re: Rat 2 (USA) vs. Rat 2 (China)
Âðåìÿ: 22.12.2011 23:50 
Óðàíèóñ
Hamer F#CK Yeah

Êñòàòè êòî åùå çíàåò.. äåéñòâèòåëüíî ëè ïðè çàìåíå òàì êàêîé-òî ìèêðîñõåìû çâóê ñòàíîâèòñÿ ñðàçó òîðò ?
Ýòî æåíó ìîæíî èìåòü ÷óæóþ,à èíñòðóìåíò íóæíî èìåòü ñâîé :idea2:
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Òåìà: Re: Rat 2 (USA) vs. Rat 2 (China)
Âðåìÿ: 22.12.2011 23:55 



rattlehead , ß â ñêðèìåðå ñ îïåðàöèîííèêàìè ýêñïèðåìåíòèðîâàë, çâóê ìåíÿåòñÿ ñëåãêà. Íî, íàñ ñàìîì äåëå íå ñèëüíî. ñìåíà ñòðóí íà äðóãèå äà¸ò áîëüøå ðàçíèöû) Îòêðûë òóò äëÿ ñåáÿ pure nickel, íà òåëèêå ïðèêîëüíûé òîí äà¸ò.
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Òåìà: Re: Rat 2 (USA) vs. Rat 2 (China)
Âðåìÿ: 23.12.2011 02:29 
Ìåäâåïóòèíñê
Microkorg XL

åñëè õîðîøàÿ ãèòàðà è åñòü ãðîìêèé çâóê (õîðîøàÿ áàøêà ñ êàáîì), òî ðàçíèöà åñòü.
åñëè êâàðòèðíûé âàðèàíò òèïà ãòà-15, èëè ÷å ïîõóæå - òî øèëî íà ìûëî, èìõî.
- Êîíöåðò Ñòàñà Ìèõàéëîâà â Ìóðìàíñêå îòìåí¸í èç-çà îòñóòñòâèÿ çðèòåëåé
- Ïîõîæå, Ìóðìàíñêó ïîðà ïðèñâàèâàòü çâàíèå Êóëüòóðíîé Ñòîëèöû Ðîññèè.
www.shift-line.com
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Òåìà: Re: Rat 2 (USA) vs. Rat 2 (China)
Âðåìÿ: 23.12.2011 06:35 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã


>åñëè õîðîøàÿ ãèòàðà è åñòü ãðîìêèé çâóê (õîðîøàÿ áàøêà ñ êàáîì), òî ðàçíèöà åñòü.
>åñëè êâàðòèðíûé âàðèàíò òèïà ãòà-15, èëè ÷å ïîõóæå - òî øèëî íà ìûëî, èìõî.

èñïîëüçîâàòüñÿ áóäåò èñêëþ÷èòåëüíî â áîåâûõ óñëîâèÿõ áîøåê, ïîýòîìó âîïðîñ äåéñòâèòåëüíî àêòóàëåí)

Ñïàñèáî çà îòâåòû
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Òåìà: Re: Rat 2 (USA) vs. Rat 2 (China)
Âðåìÿ: 23.12.2011 10:30 
The
Fuzz

Pàçíèöó USA vs China äàæå ìîæíî è íå îáñóæäàòü
×åì ñòàðøå, òåì ëó÷øå :idea2:
Ýòî êàê êðûñî -âîä -âåä -ëîâ ñî ñòàæåì ãîâîðþ
The RAT.The last fuzz you will ever need!
No amount of talk on a forum will give you as much information as 10 seconds plugged in.
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Òåìà: Re: Rat 2 (USA) vs. Rat 2 (China)
Âðåìÿ: 23.12.2011 17:57 

ËÏ è áîðçûé ñòðàò :7:

À ÷òî, ðàçâå áûâàþò êåòàéñêèå êðûñû? ß ïðîñòî íå â êóðñàõ :4:
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Òåìà: Re: Rat 2 (USA) vs. Rat 2 (China)
Âðåìÿ: 23.12.2011 18:17 

guitars

Áûâàþò, íî òîëüêî ê è òàéñêèå
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Òåìà: Re: Rat 2 (USA) vs. Rat 2 (China)
Âðåìÿ: 23.12.2011 18:53 

ËÏ è áîðçûé ñòðàò :7:

Leben Beer , Ñïàñèáî, áðî! Ïÿòü ëåò ôèëôàêà òàê è íå íàó÷èëè ìåíÿ ïðàâèëüíî ïèñàòü ñëîâî Êåòàé! Íî òû âñ¸ èñïðàâèë! Äàé áîã òåáå çäîðîâüÿ! :mol:
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Òåìà: Re: Rat 2 (USA) vs. Rat 2 (China)
Âðåìÿ: 23.12.2011 20:07 
Ìåäâåïóòèíñê
Microkorg XL

îíè êèòàéñêèå ëåò 5 êàê. ñ òåõ ïîð êàê ïîÿâèëèñü íà ãîñòèíêå çà íåãîñòèíêèíñêèå öåíû. íî è âñÿêèå òàì ðîáåðò àíàëîãìýíè èõ ìîäèòü îòêàçûâàþòñÿ.
- Êîíöåðò Ñòàñà Ìèõàéëîâà â Ìóðìàíñêå îòìåí¸í èç-çà îòñóòñòâèÿ çðèòåëåé
- Ïîõîæå, Ìóðìàíñêó ïîðà ïðèñâàèâàòü çâàíèå Êóëüòóðíîé Ñòîëèöû Ðîññèè.
www.shift-line.com
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Òåìà: Re: Rat 2 (USA) vs. Rat 2 (China)
Âðåìÿ: 24.12.2011 22:10 
Ìîñêîâñêèå çàäâîðêè.
Ïàëî÷êè ñàìîïàëî÷êè

Ó ñòàðûõ àìåðèêîñîâ êîðïóñ â ïðîôèëü ïëîñêèé, ó êèòàéöåâ ëèöåâàÿ ÷àñòü ïîä íàêëîíîì,
òàê èõ î÷åíü ëåãêî áûñòðî îòëè÷èòü. Íî LM308 íà OP07 ñìåíèëè åùå íà àìåðèêàíöàõ â äåâÿíîñòûõ.
È òåì íå ìåíåå àìåðèêàíöû ñ OP07 âñå ðàâíî çâó÷àò ëó÷øå ÷åì êèòàéöû ñ òåì æå OP07 - ÿ õý-çý ïî÷åìó :4:

ñðàâíèâàë äâå àìåðèêàíñêèå êðûñû ñ îáîèìè òèïàìè ÷èïîâ - ðàçíèöà â çâóêå ñèëüíî ïðåóâåëè÷åíà,
ó OP07 çâóê ÷óòêà ñóõîâàòûé (äëÿ êîãî-òî ýòî äàæå ïëþñ)
ó LM308 áîëåå æèðíûé è ïåâó÷èé

íî ýòî îòðàæàåòñÿ â òàêèõ ìèêðîñïîêîñòÿõ - ÷òî èìõî - çàìîðà÷èâàòüñÿ íà ÷èïå íå ñòîèò,
ó îáåèõ îôèãåííàÿ äèíàìèêà è óïðóãîñòü çâóêà (îñîáûé ñìàê - êîãäà íå âûêðó÷èâàåøü ãåéí äàëüøå ÷àñó äíÿ)
"òû òàê ãîâîðèøü, áóäòî óáèéñòâî æèâîãî ñóùåñòâà - ýòî ÷òî-òî ïëîõîå" © Ëåáåäèíûé õðóñò
"It never ceases to amaze me, people in an effects forum complaining about somebody using too many effects" ©
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Òåìà: Re: Rat 2 (USA) vs. Rat 2 (China)
Âðåìÿ: 24.12.2011 22:39 
Ìîñêâà
Fuzz Faces

>Ó ñòàðûõ àìåðèêîñîâ êîðïóñ â ïðîôèëü ïëîñêèé, ó êèòàéöåâ ëèöåâàÿ ÷àñòü ïîä íàêëîíîì,
ó âñåõ ïåíäîñîâ ëèöî íå ïîä íàêëîíîì èëè òîëüêî ó ñòàðûõ? âîïðîñ òàê äëÿ îáùåãî ðàçâèòèÿ, êàê îòëè÷èòü àìåðèêàíöà îò êåòàÿ)
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Òåìà: Re: Rat 2 (USA) vs. Rat 2 (China)
Âðåìÿ: 24.12.2011 23:44 
Ìîñêîâñêèå çàäâîðêè.
Ïàëî÷êè ñàìîïàëî÷êè

Íàêëîííûé ôýéñ ïîøåë ñ 2007 ãîäà Ýòî áûëè óæå òî÷íî êèòàéöû :4:
"òû òàê ãîâîðèøü, áóäòî óáèéñòâî æèâîãî ñóùåñòâà - ýòî ÷òî-òî ïëîõîå" © Ëåáåäèíûé õðóñò
"It never ceases to amaze me, people in an effects forum complaining about somebody using too many effects" ©
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Òåìà: Re: Rat 2 (USA) vs. Rat 2 (China)
Âðåìÿ: 25.12.2011 15:09 
LED
hunter behind heads

>Íàêëîííûé ôýéñ ïîøåë ñ 2007 ãîäà Ýòî áûëè óæå òî÷íî êèòàéöû
Õì... :da:
Èãðàþ íà êðûñî2 ñ 2004 ãîäà, ôåéñ ñêîøåííûé, àñàøàé
- How do I get to Carnegie Hall?
- Practice, practice, practice.
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Òåìà: Re: Rat 2 (USA) vs. Rat 2 (China)
Âðåìÿ: 25.12.2011 16:54 
Ìîñêîâñêèå çàäâîðêè.
Ïàëî÷êè ñàìîïàëî÷êè

à íó äà, ýòî ÿ äàòû ïîïóòàë :oooi:
â 2003 ïåðåäåëàëèñü - 2003 changed to a Sloped side, U-Shaped Enclosure

âîò èñòî÷íèê: http://webpages.charter.net/daosmun/Rat%202.htm
"òû òàê ãîâîðèøü, áóäòî óáèéñòâî æèâîãî ñóùåñòâà - ýòî ÷òî-òî ïëîõîå" © Ëåáåäèíûé õðóñò
"It never ceases to amaze me, people in an effects forum complaining about somebody using too many effects" ©
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Òåìà: Re: Rat 2 (USA) vs. Rat 2 (China)
Âðåìÿ: 25.12.2011 16:55 
Ìîñêîâñêèå çàäâîðêè.
Ïàëî÷êè ñàìîïàëî÷êè

ëó÷øèé ñàéò ïî êðûñåíûøàì êñòàòå :idea2:
ïîêîïàéòåñü, êîìó èíòåðåñíî

http://webpages.charter.net/daosmun/
"òû òàê ãîâîðèøü, áóäòî óáèéñòâî æèâîãî ñóùåñòâà - ýòî ÷òî-òî ïëîõîå" © Ëåáåäèíûé õðóñò
"It never ceases to amaze me, people in an effects forum complaining about somebody using too many effects" ©
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Òåìà: Re: Rat 2 (USA) vs. Rat 2 (China)
Âðåìÿ: 25.12.2011 17:36 
Ìîñêâà
Fuzz Faces

íó òàê êåòàé òî ñ êàêîãî ãîäà íà÷àëè äåëàòü?)
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Òåìà: Re: Rat 2 (USA) vs. Rat 2 (China)
Âðåìÿ: 25.12.2011 19:41 
Ìîñêîâñêèå çàäâîðêè.
Ïàëî÷êè ñàìîïàëî÷êè

äà õðeí åãî çíàåò :4:
"òû òàê ãîâîðèøü, áóäòî óáèéñòâî æèâîãî ñóùåñòâà - ýòî ÷òî-òî ïëîõîå" © Ëåáåäèíûé õðóñò
"It never ceases to amaze me, people in an effects forum complaining about somebody using too many effects" ©
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Òåìà: Re: Rat 2 (USA) vs. Rat 2 (China)
Âðåìÿ: 25.12.2011 22:22 
LED
hunter behind heads

>íó òàê êåòàé òî ñ êàêîãî ãîäà íà÷àëè äåëàòü?)
>äà õðeí åãî çíàåò
:agree:

Òîæå èíòåðåñîâàë äàííûé âîïðîñ, íî îäíîçíà÷íîãî îòâåòà íà íåãîíàéòè òàê è íå óäàëîñü: íà ôîðóìàõ âåçäå íàçûâàþòñ ðàçíûå ãîäà, ñ êîòîðûõ êèòàéöû ÿêîáû íà÷àëè ïðîèçâîäñòâî êðûñ, åñòü åùå âåðñèÿ, ÷òî ïîñëå òî ëè 30 000, òî ëè îêîëî òîãî ñåðèéíîãî íîìåðà íà÷èíàþòñÿ êèòàéöû
- How do I get to Carnegie Hall?
- Practice, practice, practice.
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Òåìà: Re: Rat 2 (USA) vs. Rat 2 (China)
Âðåìÿ: 25.12.2011 22:36 
LED
hunter behind heads

Âî, íàøåë:
http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=398028
- How do I get to Carnegie Hall?
- Practice, practice, practice.
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Òåìà: Re: Rat 2 (USA) vs. Rat 2 (China)
Âðåìÿ: 25.12.2011 23:22 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ãèòàðà

>÷òî ïîñëå òî ëè 30 000, òî ëè îêîëî òîãî ñåðèéíîãî íîìåðà
×òî-òî ìàëîâàòî, ñåé÷àñ "áóòèêè" ïîõîæèìè òèðàæàìè øòàìïóþòñÿ. Íà ñòîëå ëåæèò êîðîáêà îò Xotic AC Booster - ñåðèéíèê 8589 :lol:
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Òåìà: Re: Rat 2 (USA) vs. Rat 2 (China)
Âðåìÿ: 25.12.2011 23:40 
LED
hunter behind heads

ÁÅËÛÉ_ÊÎÒ , íîëèê íå ïðîïå÷àòàëñÿ îäèí, ñ àéïàäà íåïðèâû÷íî :oooi:
Ïî ññûëêå âèäíî, ÷òî èìååòå â âèäó 300 000 :)
- How do I get to Carnegie Hall?
- Practice, practice, practice.
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Òåìà: Re: Rat 2 (USA) vs. Rat 2 (China)
Âðåìÿ: 27.12.2011 00:32 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã


Âîáùåì, âûéãðàë ÿ òàêè àóêöèîí, è àìåðèêàíñêèé ñòàðûé êðûñåíûø óæå åäåò êî ìíå.
Åùå ðàçëè÷èå â êðóòèëêàõ ó íèõ. Ó ñòàðûõ àìåðèêàíöåâ íåòó ñêîñîâ íà êðóòèëêàõ.
Ïðèåäåò - ñðàâíþ êèòàé è âèíòàæ àñàøàé âîî÷èþ)
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Òåìà: Re: Rat 2 (USA) vs. Rat 2 (China)
Âðåìÿ: 27.12.2011 17:44 
Ìîñêîâñêèå çàäâîðêè.
Ïàëî÷êè ñàìîïàëî÷êè

>Åùå ðàçëè÷èå â êðóòèëêàõ ó íèõ. Ó ñòàðûõ àìåðèêàíöåâ íåòó ñêîñîâ íà êðóòèëêàõ.
à òî! âåñüìà õàðàêòåðíûé ïðèçíàê! :idea2:
"òû òàê ãîâîðèøü, áóäòî óáèéñòâî æèâîãî ñóùåñòâà - ýòî ÷òî-òî ïëîõîå" © Ëåáåäèíûé õðóñò
"It never ceases to amaze me, people in an effects forum complaining about somebody using too many effects" ©
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Òåìà: Re: Rat 2 (USA) vs. Rat 2 (China)
Âðåìÿ: 27.12.2011 20:52 

Ïèàíèíî, ãèòàðà, ìàíäîëà...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=m90XuJvZQU4#!
Âñåõ Òèïî-Ýêñïåðòîâ íà Êîëûìó!
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Òåìà: Re: Rat 2 (USA) vs. Rat 2 (China)
Âðåìÿ: 27.12.2011 20:54 
Ìîñêîâñêèå çàäâîðêè.
Ïàëî÷êè ñàìîïàëî÷êè

>Fragmento
Íó è? Òû ñàì òî ñëûøèøü äèêóþ ðàçíèöó? ß - íåò :4:
"òû òàê ãîâîðèøü, áóäòî óáèéñòâî æèâîãî ñóùåñòâà - ýòî ÷òî-òî ïëîõîå" © Ëåáåäèíûé õðóñò
"It never ceases to amaze me, people in an effects forum complaining about somebody using too many effects" ©
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Òåìà: Re: Rat 2 (USA) vs. Rat 2 (China)
Âðåìÿ: 27.12.2011 21:18 

Ïèàíèíî, ãèòàðà, ìàíäîëà...

Ñóäÿ ïî âèäåî ðàçíèöà åñòü )
Âñåõ Òèïî-Ýêñïåðòîâ íà Êîëûìó!
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Òåìà: Re: Rat 2 (USA) vs. Rat 2 (China)
Âðåìÿ: 27.12.2011 21:33 
The
Fuzz

Fragmento & Choko

Youtube , êàê è çàêóñêà, ãðàäóñ êðàäåò
Íå ñóäè î äðóãèõ ïî youtube
Íå â ñâîé youtube íå ñàäèñü
Íå â youtube ñ÷àñòüå
Youtube âå÷åðîì ìóäðåå
Äóðíîé yotube çàðàçèòåëåí
è ò.ï.

Chinese RAT-2 (2008-present)
The RAT.The last fuzz you will ever need!
No amount of talk on a forum will give you as much information as 10 seconds plugged in.
 ýòîò ôîðóì ìîãóò ïèñàòü òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûå ïîëüçîâàòåëè!