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Òåìà: Ïëþñû è ìèíóñû ïåäàëåé Boss?
Âðåìÿ: 01.03.2011 17:44 
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Ñìîòðåë êîíöåðò Îççè îñáîðíà ïðîõîäèâøèé â ßïîíèè, òàê ãèòàðèñò èñïîëüçîâàë òîëüêî áîññîâñêèå ïåäàëè, åñëè ñóäèòü ïî öâåòàì, òî ýòî îâåðäàéâ, õîðóñ è äåëåé, íó åñòåññòâåííî âñå ýòî âðóáàëîñü â ïàðó øêàôîâ èç ìàðøàëîâ :)Î÷åíü ÷àñòî â ïåäàëáîðäàõ èçâåñòíûõ ãèòàðèñòîâ ïðîñêàêèâàþò ýòè áåëåíüêèå, æåëòåíüêèå, îðàíæåâûå ïåäàëè Boss, çíà÷èò îíè õîðîøè? Èëè ýòî îïÿòü ðåêëàìà? õç, â îáùåì ïëþñû è ìèíóñû ãîñïîäà? :) :) :)
Òîëüêî íå íàæèìàéòå ýòó ññûëêó
http://lleo.aha.ru/na/
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Òåìà: Re: Ïëþñû è ìèíóñû ïåäàëåé Boss?
Âðåìÿ: 01.03.2011 17:59 



Åñëè òåáÿ ïîñëå ýòîãî íå çàáàíÿò, ÿ õç ÷òî òóò äàëüøå äåëàòü.
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Òåìà: Re: Ïëþñû è ìèíóñû ïåäàëåé Boss?
Âðåìÿ: 01.03.2011 18:00 
Ìîñêâà
Ìàôèÿ.

Òû ÷òî òðîëü? Ùàñ òîëüêî ëîõè íå çíàþò íè÷åãî îá ýòèõ ïåäàëèíàõ... :7:
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Òåìà: Re: Ïëþñû è ìèíóñû ïåäàëåé Boss?
Âðåìÿ: 01.03.2011 18:02 
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Åñëè òåáÿ ïîñëå ýòîãî íå çàáàíÿò, ÿ õç ÷òî òóò äàëüøå äåëàòü.
Íå íó åñëè ýòî ñîâñåì íå àêòóàëüíàÿ òåìà è íå â ðàçäåë, òî èçâåíÿéòå!!! :)
Òîëüêî íå íàæèìàéòå ýòó ññûëêó
http://lleo.aha.ru/na/
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Òåìà: Re: Ïëþñû è ìèíóñû ïåäàëåé Boss?
Âðåìÿ: 01.03.2011 18:05 
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Òû ÷òî òðîëü? Ùàñ òîëüêî ëîõè íå çíàþò íè÷åãî îá ýòèõ ïåäàëèíàõ..
Âîîáùå-òî âñå çíàþò ýòè ïåäàëè Áîññ, à â ÷åì èõ ïëþñû è ìèíóñû?
Òîëüêî íå íàæèìàéòå ýòó ññûëêó
http://lleo.aha.ru/na/
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Òåìà: Re: Ïëþñû è ìèíóñû ïåäàëåé Boss?
Âðåìÿ: 01.03.2011 18:11 
spb
suhr+axefx+adam ♫

áîññ ýòî ïðîäóêò ïðîâåðåííûé âðåìåíåì :4:
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Òåìà: Re: Ïëþñû è ìèíóñû ïåäàëåé Boss?
Âðåìÿ: 01.03.2011 18:12 
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áîññ ýòî ïðîäóêò ïðîâåðåííûé âðåìåíåì
È ïîêàçàâøèé ñåáÿ êàê? êàê ðåäêîñòíàÿ êàêàøêà? èëè íîðìàëüíûå ïåäàëè çà ñâîè äåíüãè?
Òîëüêî íå íàæèìàéòå ýòó ññûëêó
http://lleo.aha.ru/na/
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Òåìà: Re: Ïëþñû è ìèíóñû ïåäàëåé Boss?
Âðåìÿ: 01.03.2011 18:13 
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suhr+axefx+adam ♫

åñëè çà ÷óæèå äåíüãè - òî íîðìàëüíûå ïåäàëè
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Òåìà: Re: Ïëþñû è ìèíóñû ïåäàëåé Boss?
Âðåìÿ: 01.03.2011 18:16 
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åñëè çà ÷óæèå äåíüãè - òî íîðìàëüíûå ïåäàëè
íó è óêñóñ ñëàäêèé :)
Òîëüêî íå íàæèìàéòå ýòó ññûëêó
http://lleo.aha.ru/na/
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Òåìà: Re: Ïëþñû è ìèíóñû ïåäàëåé Boss?
Âðåìÿ: 01.03.2011 18:28 



îòëè÷íûå ïåäàëè. â îñíîâíîì áîñàìè è ïîëüçóþñü :benetton:
Ñðåäè âñåõ æèâûõ ñóùåñòâ íà çåìëå, òîëüêî ÷åëîâåê ïëàòèò äåíüãè çà òî, ÷òîáû æèòü.
Ó ðóññêîãî ÷åëîâåêà äâå ìå÷òû: óíè÷òîæèòü Àìåðèêó è âûèãðàòü òóäà ãðèíêàðòó (ñ)
Ðîññèÿ - ýòî 1/6 ÷àñòü ñóøè, ñî âñåõ ñòîðîí îêðóæ¸ííàÿ öèâèëèçàöèåé!
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Òåìà: Re: Ïëþñû è ìèíóñû ïåäàëåé Boss?
Âðåìÿ: 01.03.2011 18:39 
Ìîñêâà
SD Custom Guitar

++ îòëè÷íûå ïåäàëè
-- îíè åñòü ó âñåõ, à çíà÷èò ïîïñíÿ, à ïîïñíÿ ýòî íå êðóòî, èáî òîëüêî áóòèê òðó
Ýòî ñåé÷àñ âñå ïî íàðîøêè. À ðàíüøå. Êàê æèëè òàê è èãðàëè.
http://vk.com/ivandeus
http://www.youtube.com/c/Deussoftwebru
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Òåìà: Re: Ïëþñû è ìèíóñû ïåäàëåé Boss?
Âðåìÿ: 01.03.2011 19:32 



à ìíå æàëêî äåíåã íà áóòèê. ðàáîòàåò è ëàäíî. ñëîìàåòñÿ,êóïëþ òàêóþ-æå,èáî êîíñåðâàòîð ÿ. :)
Ñðåäè âñåõ æèâûõ ñóùåñòâ íà çåìëå, òîëüêî ÷åëîâåê ïëàòèò äåíüãè çà òî, ÷òîáû æèòü.
Ó ðóññêîãî ÷åëîâåêà äâå ìå÷òû: óíè÷òîæèòü Àìåðèêó è âûèãðàòü òóäà ãðèíêàðòó (ñ)
Ðîññèÿ - ýòî 1/6 ÷àñòü ñóøè, ñî âñåõ ñòîðîí îêðóæ¸ííàÿ öèâèëèçàöèåé!
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Òåìà: Re: Ïëþñû è ìèíóñû ïåäàëåé Boss?
Âðåìÿ: 01.03.2011 19:37 



>à ìíå æàëêî äåíåã íà áóòèê. ðàáîòàåò è ëàäíî. ñëîìàåòñÿ,êóïëþ òàêóþ-æå,èáî êîíñåðâàòîð ÿ.

Ýõ, ïîéäó â ìàãàç êóïëþ ïî äåø¸âêå ïàðó DM-2 è CE-1 íà ñäà÷ó...
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Òåìà: Re: Ïëþñû è ìèíóñû ïåäàëåé Boss?
Âðåìÿ: 01.03.2011 19:42 



Âîò ñïèñîê ïåäàëåé:
* BD-2 Blues Driver (Used by Billie Joe Armstrong)
* DB-5 Driver
* DS-1 Distortion (Used by Dave Navarro and Kurt Cobain)
* DS-2 Turbo Distortion (John Frusciante and Kurt Cobain)
* MD-2 Mega Distortion (Used by Mick Thomson) during "Iowa" only.*
* DF-2 Super Feedbacker and Distortion
* OS-2 OverDrive/Distortion
* OD-3 OverDrive
* OD-2 Turbo Overdrive
* OD-1 OverDrive
* OD-2r Turbo Overdrive
* SD-1 Super OverDrive
* SD-2 Dual OverDrive
* ST-2 Power Stack (2010) "Stack amp in a stomp box."
* PW-2 Power Driver
* XT-2 Xtortion
* FZ-5 Fuzz
* FZ-3 Fuzz
* FZ-2 Hyper Fuzz (Used by Fieldy)
* HM-2 Heavy Metal
* HM-3 Hyper Metal
* MZ-2 Digital Metalizer
* ML-2 Metal Core
* MT-2 Metal Zone
* DN-2 Dyna Drive
* FBM-1 Fender ’59 - amplifier simulation of 1959 Fender Bassman
* FDR-1 Fender ’65 Deluxe - amplifier simulation of 1965 Fender Deluxe Reverb
* CE-1 Chorus Ensemble (used by John Frusciante)
* CE-2 Chorus
* CE-3 Chorus
* CE-5 Chorus Ensemble (used digital components after 2001)
* CH-1 Super Chorus (used digital components after 2001)
* PH-1 Phaser
* PH-1r Phaser
* PH-2 Super Phaser
* PH-3 Phase Shifter
* VB-2 Vibrato
* TR-2 Tremolo
* PN-2 Tremolo/Pan
* BF-2 Flanger (Used by Jason Newsted)
* BF-3 Flanger
* HF-2 Hi-Band Flanger
* DC-2 Dimension C
* DC-3 Digital Dimension a.k.a. "Digital Space D" later labeled.
* RV-2 Digital Reverb
* RV-3 Digital Reverb/Delay, with delay times up to 2,000ms. Used by Jonny Greenwood[1], Jonny Buckland, and Wes Borland[citation needed]
* RV-5 Digital Reverb
* RRV-10 Digital Reverb
* FRV-1 Fender Reverb - amplifier simulation of 1963 Fender Spring Reverb
* DSD-2 Digital Sampler/Delay
* DSD-3 Digital Sampler/Delay
* DM-1 Delay Machine
* DM-2 Analog Delay (Used by Dave Grohl)
* DM-3 Analog Delay
* DD-2 Digital Delay (used by Tom Morello)
* DD-3 Digital Delay
* DD-5 Digital Delay
* DD-6 Digital Delay - stereo pedal with longer delay times than DD-3
* DD-7 Digital Delay
* DD-20 Digital Delay
* TW-1 T Wah
* TW-1 Touch Wah
* AW-2 Auto Wah
* AW-3 Dynamic Wah
* FT-2 Dynamic Filter
* GE-6 Equalizer
* GE-7 Equalizer
* PQ-4 Parametric Equalizer
* SP-1 Spectrum
* AC-3 Acoustic Simulator
* AC-2 Acoustic Simulator
* CS-1 Compression Sustainer
* CS-2 Compression Sustainer
* CS-3 Compression Sustainer
* EH-2 Enhancer
* PS-2 Digital Pitch Shifter/Delay
* PS-3 Digital Pitch Shifter/Delay
* PS-5 Super Shifter
* PS-6 Harmonist (2010)
* OC-2 Octaver a.k.a. "Octave" later labeled.
* OC-3 Super Octave
* HR-2 Harmonist
* LM-2 Limiter
* LS-2 Line Selector
* NF-1 Noise Gate
* NS-2 Noise Suppressor
* PSM-5 Power Supply and Master Switch
* RC-2 Loop Station
* RC-20XL Loop Station
* RC-50 Loop Station
* SG-1 Slow Gear
* TU-2 Chromatic Tuner
* TU-3 Chromatic Tuner (2010)
* OD-20 Drive Zone
* CE-20 Chorus Ensemble
* EQ-20 Advanced EQ
* DD-20 Giga Delay
* RC-20XL Loop Station
* RT-20 Rotary Ensemble
* RE-20 Space Echo
* SL-20 Slicer
* WP-20G Wave Processor
* OC-20G Poly Octave
* GP-20 Amp Factory
* VE-20 Voice Performer (2010)
* BF-2B Bass Flanger
* CE-2B Bass Chorus
* GE-7B Bass Equalizer
* LM-2B Bass Limiter
* PQ-3B Parametric Equalizer
* ODB-3 Bass Overdrive
* CEB-3 Bass Chorus
* GEB-7 Bass Equalizer
* LMB-3 Bass Limiter Enhancer
* SYB-3 Bass Synthesizer
* SYB-5 Bass Synthesizer

Ìû î êàêîé-òî èëè âîîáùå?
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Òåìà: Re: Ïëþñû è ìèíóñû ïåäàëåé Boss?
Âðåìÿ: 01.03.2011 19:44 



Äàííàÿ òåìà ÿâëøÿåòñÿ îáðàçöîâûì òðîëëèíãîì. Èáî íå ñîäåðæèò êîíêðåòíîãî âîïðîñà. Ïðè ýòîì ýêñïóëàòèðóåò òåìó, ïîäíèìàåìóþ ðàç â íåñêîëüêî íåäåëü.
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Òåìà: Re: Ïëþñû è ìèíóñû ïåäàëåé Boss?
Âðåìÿ: 01.03.2011 19:45 
ÌÀÑÒÅÐ ÞÃÐÛ
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* BD-2 Blues Driver (Used by Billie Joe Armstrong)
* DB-5 Driver
* DS-1 Distortion (Used by Dave Navarro and Kurt Cobain)
* DS-2 Turbo Distortion (John Frusciante and Kurt Cobain)
* MD-2 Mega Distortion (Used by Mick Thomson) during "Iowa" only.*
* DF-2 Super Feedbacker and Distortion
* OS-2 OverDrive/Distortion
* OD-3 OverDrive
* OD-2 Turbo Overdrive
* OD-1 OverDrive
* OD-2r Turbo Overdrive
* SD-1 Super OverDrive
* SD-2 Dual OverDrive
* ST-2 Power Stack (2010) "Stack amp in a stomp box."
* PW-2 Power Driver
* XT-2 Xtortion
* FZ-5 Fuzz
* FZ-3 Fuzz
* FZ-2 Hyper Fuzz (Used by Fieldy)
* HM-2 Heavy Metal
* HM-3 Hyper Metal
* MZ-2 Digital Metalizer
* ML-2 Metal Core
* MT-2 Metal Zone
* DN-2 Dyna Drive
* FBM-1 Fender ’59 - amplifier simulation of 1959 Fender Bassman
* FDR-1 Fender ’65 Deluxe - amplifier simulation of 1965 Fender Deluxe Reverb
* CE-1 Chorus Ensemble (used by John Frusciante)
* CE-2 Chorus
* CE-3 Chorus
* CE-5 Chorus Ensemble (used digital components after 2001)
* CH-1 Super Chorus (used digital components after 2001)
* PH-1 Phaser
* PH-1r Phaser
* PH-2 Super Phaser
* PH-3 Phase Shifter
* VB-2 Vibrato
* TR-2 Tremolo
* PN-2 Tremolo/Pan
* BF-2 Flanger (Used by Jason Newsted)
* BF-3 Flanger
* HF-2 Hi-Band Flanger
* DC-2 Dimension C
* DC-3 Digital Dimension a.k.a. "Digital Space D" later labeled.
* RV-2 Digital Reverb
* RV-3 Digital Reverb/Delay, with delay times up to 2,000ms. Used by Jonny Greenwood[1], Jonny Buckland, and Wes Borland[citation needed]
* RV-5 Digital Reverb
* RRV-10 Digital Reverb
* FRV-1 Fender Reverb - amplifier simulation of 1963 Fender Spring Reverb
* DSD-2 Digital Sampler/Delay
* DSD-3 Digital Sampler/Delay
* DM-1 Delay Machine
* DM-2 Analog Delay (Used by Dave Grohl)
* DM-3 Analog Delay
* DD-2 Digital Delay (used by Tom Morello)
* DD-3 Digital Delay
* DD-5 Digital Delay
* DD-6 Digital Delay - stereo pedal with longer delay times than DD-3
* DD-7 Digital Delay
* DD-20 Digital Delay
* TW-1 T Wah
* TW-1 Touch Wah
* AW-2 Auto Wah
* AW-3 Dynamic Wah
* FT-2 Dynamic Filter
* GE-6 Equalizer
* GE-7 Equalizer
* PQ-4 Parametric Equalizer
* SP-1 Spectrum
* AC-3 Acoustic Simulator
* AC-2 Acoustic Simulator
* CS-1 Compression Sustainer
* CS-2 Compression Sustainer
* CS-3 Compression Sustainer
* EH-2 Enhancer
* PS-2 Digital Pitch Shifter/Delay
* PS-3 Digital Pitch Shifter/Delay
* PS-5 Super Shifter
* PS-6 Harmonist (2010)
* OC-2 Octaver a.k.a. "Octave" later labeled.
* OC-3 Super Octave
* HR-2 Harmonist
* LM-2 Limiter
* LS-2 Line Selector
* NF-1 Noise Gate
* NS-2 Noise Suppressor
* PSM-5 Power Supply and Master Switch
* RC-2 Loop Station
* RC-20XL Loop Station
* RC-50 Loop Station
* SG-1 Slow Gear
* TU-2 Chromatic Tuner
* TU-3 Chromatic Tuner (2010)
* OD-20 Drive Zone
* CE-20 Chorus Ensemble
* EQ-20 Advanced EQ
* DD-20 Giga Delay
* RC-20XL Loop Station
* RT-20 Rotary Ensemble
* RE-20 Space Echo
* SL-20 Slicer
* WP-20G Wave Processor
* OC-20G Poly Octave
* GP-20 Amp Factory
* VE-20 Voice Performer (2010)
* BF-2B Bass Flanger
* CE-2B Bass Chorus
* GE-7B Bass Equalizer
* LM-2B Bass Limiter
* PQ-3B Parametric Equalizer
* ODB-3 Bass Overdrive
* CEB-3 Bass Chorus
* GEB-7 Bass Equalizer
* LMB-3 Bass Limiter Enhancer
* SYB-3 Bass Synthesizer
* SYB-5 Bass Synthesizer



:eek:
Òîëüêî íå íàæèìàéòå ýòó ññûëêó
http://lleo.aha.ru/na/
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Òåìà: Re: Ïëþñû è ìèíóñû ïåäàëåé Boss?
Âðåìÿ: 01.03.2011 20:19 
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Äàííàÿ òåìà ÿâëøÿåòñÿ îáðàçöîâûì òðîëëèíãîì. Èáî íå ñîäåðæèò êîíêðåòíîãî âîïðîñà. Ïðè ýòîì ýêñïóëàòèðóåò òåìó, ïîäíèìàåìóþ ðàç â íåñêîëüêî íåäåëü.

Êàê íåò âîïðîñà, îí åñòü :idea2: , ïåðåôîðìèðóåì âîïðîñ: Äîïóñòèì öåïü Áîññîâñêèõ ïåäàëåé èç 4-5 ïåäàëåé ïîäêëþ÷åííûõ â áþäæåòíûé ëàìïîâûé êîìáèê, êàê áóäåò âñå ýòî äîáðî çâó÷àòü ïðè íàëè÷èè ïðÿìûõ ðóê? ñèëüíî ëè ñîæðåò ñèãíàë? ñëûøàë ïðî íå òðó áàéïàñ, â îáùåì ñòîþùèå ëè ïåäàëè? :)
Òîëüêî íå íàæèìàéòå ýòó ññûëêó
http://lleo.aha.ru/na/
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Òåìà: Re: Ïëþñû è ìèíóñû ïåäàëåé Boss?
Âðåìÿ: 01.03.2011 20:26 
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DieZZ , îòëè÷íûå ïåäàëè. â îñíîâíîì áîñàìè è ïîëüçóþñü

êàêèå èñïîëüçóåøü??? :)
Òîëüêî íå íàæèìàéòå ýòó ññûëêó
http://lleo.aha.ru/na/
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Òåìà: Re: Ïëþñû è ìèíóñû ïåäàëåé Boss?
Âðåìÿ: 01.03.2011 20:28 
Ìîñêâà
Ìàôèÿ.

Ïëþñû è ìèíóñû â ïðèìî÷êå (äà è íå òîëüêî)äîëæåí ñàì ìóçûêàíò äëÿ ñåáÿ îïðåäåëÿòü,à íå ñïðàøèâàòü íà ôîðóìå...Ìàëî ëè ÷òî äðóãèå ñêàæóò,îäèí çàñðåò ýòîò áîññ,äðóãèå ïîõâàëþò,è êàê òû áóäåøü äåéñòâîâàòü? :)
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Òåìà: Re: Ïëþñû è ìèíóñû ïåäàëåé Boss?
Âðåìÿ: 01.03.2011 20:35 
Ìàñòåð æåñòîêèõ èãð


>Âîò ñïèñîê ïåäàëåé:
> * BD-2 Blues Driver (Used by Billie Joe Armstrong)
> * DB-5 Driver
> * DS-1 Distortion (Used by Dave Navarro and Kurt Cobain)
> * DS-2 Turbo Distortion (John Frusciante and Kurt Cobain)
> * MD-2 Mega Distortion (Used by Mick Thomson) during "Iowa" only.*
> * DF-2 Super Feedbacker and Distortion
> * OS-2 OverDrive/Distortion
> * OD-3 OverDrive
> * OD-2 Turbo Overdrive
> * OD-1 OverDrive
> * OD-2r Turbo Overdrive
> * SD-1 Super OverDrive
> * SD-2 Dual OverDrive
> * ST-2 Power Stack (2010) "Stack amp in a stomp box."
> * PW-2 Power Driver
> * XT-2 Xtortion
> * FZ-5 Fuzz
> * FZ-3 Fuzz
> * FZ-2 Hyper Fuzz (Used by Fieldy)
> * HM-2 Heavy Metal
> * HM-3 Hyper Metal
> * MZ-2 Digital Metalizer
> * ML-2 Metal Core
> * MT-2 Metal Zone
> * DN-2 Dyna Drive
> * FBM-1 Fender ’59 - amplifier simulation of 1959 Fender Bassman
> * FDR-1 Fender ’65 Deluxe - amplifier simulation of 1965 Fender Deluxe Reverb
> * CE-1 Chorus Ensemble (used by John Frusciante)
> * CE-2 Chorus
> * CE-3 Chorus
> * CE-5 Chorus Ensemble (used digital components after 2001)
> * CH-1 Super Chorus (used digital components after 2001)
> * PH-1 Phaser
> * PH-1r Phaser
> * PH-2 Super Phaser
> * PH-3 Phase Shifter
> * VB-2 Vibrato
> * TR-2 Tremolo
> * PN-2 Tremolo/Pan
> * BF-2 Flanger (Used by Jason Newsted)
> * BF-3 Flanger
> * HF-2 Hi-Band Flanger
> * DC-2 Dimension C
> * DC-3 Digital Dimension a.k.a. "Digital Space D" later labeled.
> * RV-2 Digital Reverb
> * RV-3 Digital Reverb/Delay, with delay times up to 2,000ms. Used by Jonny Greenwood[1], Jonny Buckland, and Wes Borland[citation needed]
> * RV-5 Digital Reverb
> * RRV-10 Digital Reverb
> * FRV-1 Fender Reverb - amplifier simulation of 1963 Fender Spring Reverb
> * DSD-2 Digital Sampler/Delay
> * DSD-3 Digital Sampler/Delay
> * DM-1 Delay Machine
> * DM-2 Analog Delay (Used by Dave Grohl)
> * DM-3 Analog Delay
> * DD-2 Digital Delay (used by Tom Morello)
> * DD-3 Digital Delay
> * DD-5 Digital Delay
> * DD-6 Digital Delay - stereo pedal with longer delay times than DD-3
> * DD-7 Digital Delay
> * DD-20 Digital Delay
> * TW-1 T Wah
> * TW-1 Touch Wah
> * AW-2 Auto Wah
> * AW-3 Dynamic Wah
> * FT-2 Dynamic Filter
> * GE-6 Equalizer
> * GE-7 Equalizer
> * PQ-4 Parametric Equalizer
> * SP-1 Spectrum
> * AC-3 Acoustic Simulator
> * AC-2 Acoustic Simulator
> * CS-1 Compression Sustainer
> * CS-2 Compression Sustainer
> * CS-3 Compression Sustainer
> * EH-2 Enhancer
> * PS-2 Digital Pitch Shifter/Delay
> * PS-3 Digital Pitch Shifter/Delay
> * PS-5 Super Shifter
> * PS-6 Harmonist (2010)
> * OC-2 Octaver a.k.a. "Octave" later labeled.
> * OC-3 Super Octave
> * HR-2 Harmonist
> * LM-2 Limiter
> * LS-2 Line Selector
> * NF-1 Noise Gate
> * NS-2 Noise Suppressor
> * PSM-5 Power Supply and Master Switch
> * RC-2 Loop Station
> * RC-20XL Loop Station
> * RC-50 Loop Station
> * SG-1 Slow Gear
> * TU-2 Chromatic Tuner
> * TU-3 Chromatic Tuner (2010)
> * OD-20 Drive Zone
> * CE-20 Chorus Ensemble
> * EQ-20 Advanced EQ
> * DD-20 Giga Delay
> * RC-20XL Loop Station
> * RT-20 Rotary Ensemble
> * RE-20 Space Echo
> * SL-20 Slicer
> * WP-20G Wave Processor
> * OC-20G Poly Octave
> * GP-20 Amp Factory
> * VE-20 Voice Performer (2010)
> * BF-2B Bass Flanger
> * CE-2B Bass Chorus
> * GE-7B Bass Equalizer
> * LM-2B Bass Limiter
> * PQ-3B Parametric Equalizer
> * ODB-3 Bass Overdrive
> * CEB-3 Bass Chorus
> * GEB-7 Bass Equalizer
> * LMB-3 Bass Limiter Enhancer
> * SYB-3 Bass Synthesizer
> * SYB-5 Bass Synthesizer
>
>Ìû î êàêîé-òî èëè âîîáùå?


Ðàññêàæèòå ïî-ïîäðîáíåé î 21-îé ïåäàëè èç ñïèñêà :golod06:
Ó Ìàëüìñòèíà ñåêðåò àðïåäæèî â ðû÷àãå. Îí èì ñêîðîñòè ïåðåêëþ÷àåò.
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Âðåìÿ: 01.03.2011 20:47 
ÌÀÑÒÅÐ ÞÃÐÛ
☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

Ïëþñû è ìèíóñû â ïðèìî÷êå (äà è íå òîëüêî)äîëæåí ñàì ìóçûêàíò äëÿ ñåáÿ îïðåäåëÿòü,à íå ñïðàøèâàòü íà ôîðóìå...Ìàëî ëè ÷òî äðóãèå ñêàæóò,îäèí çàñðåò ýòîò áîññ,äðóãèå ïîõâàëþò,è êàê òû áóäåøü äåéñòâîâàòü?
Äà ó ìåíÿ íåò âîçìîæíîñòè ïîùóïàòü ñàìîìó ïåäàëè, âîò è ñïðàøèâàþ.. À íà ôîðóìå îáùóþ êàðòèíó ïðî äåâàéñû êàê ìèíèìóì óâèäèøü..
Ìåíÿ ïðèâëåêàåò ñòîèìîñòü äà è äèçàéí ó áîññîâ ïðèêîëüíûé!! :)
Òîëüêî íå íàæèìàéòå ýòó ññûëêó
http://lleo.aha.ru/na/
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Âðåìÿ: 01.03.2011 21:14 
Ìåäâåïóòèíñê
Microkorg XL

>Âîò ñïèñîê ïåäàëåé:
> * BD-2 Blues Driver (Used by Billie Joe Armstrong)
> * DB-5 Driver
> * DS-1 Distortion (Used by Dave Navarro and Kurt Cobain)
> * DS-2 Turbo Distortion (John Frusciante and Kurt Cobain)
> * MD-2 Mega Distortion (Used by Mick Thomson) during "Iowa" only.*
> * DF-2 Super Feedbacker and Distortion
> * OS-2 OverDrive/Distortion
> * OD-3 OverDrive
> * OD-2 Turbo Overdrive
> * OD-1 OverDrive
> * OD-2r Turbo Overdrive
> * SD-1 Super OverDrive
> * SD-2 Dual OverDrive
> * ST-2 Power Stack (2010) "Stack amp in a stomp box."
> * PW-2 Power Driver
> * XT-2 Xtortion
> * FZ-5 Fuzz
> * FZ-3 Fuzz
> * FZ-2 Hyper Fuzz (Used by Fieldy)
> * HM-2 Heavy Metal
> * HM-3 Hyper Metal
> * MZ-2 Digital Metalizer
> * ML-2 Metal Core
> * MT-2 Metal Zone
> * DN-2 Dyna Drive
> * FBM-1 Fender ’59 - amplifier simulation of 1959 Fender Bassman
> * FDR-1 Fender ’65 Deluxe - amplifier simulation of 1965 Fender Deluxe Reverb
> * CE-1 Chorus Ensemble (used by John Frusciante)
> * CE-2 Chorus
> * CE-3 Chorus
> * CE-5 Chorus Ensemble (used digital components after 2001)
> * CH-1 Super Chorus (used digital components after 2001)
> * PH-1 Phaser
> * PH-1r Phaser
> * PH-2 Super Phaser
> * PH-3 Phase Shifter
> * VB-2 Vibrato
> * TR-2 Tremolo
> * PN-2 Tremolo/Pan
> * BF-2 Flanger (Used by Jason Newsted)
> * BF-3 Flanger
> * HF-2 Hi-Band Flanger
> * DC-2 Dimension C
> * DC-3 Digital Dimension a.k.a. "Digital Space D" later labeled.
> * RV-2 Digital Reverb
> * RV-3 Digital Reverb/Delay, with delay times up to 2,000ms. Used by Jonny Greenwood[1], Jonny Buckland, and Wes Borland[citation needed]
> * RV-5 Digital Reverb
> * RRV-10 Digital Reverb
> * FRV-1 Fender Reverb - amplifier simulation of 1963 Fender Spring Reverb
> * DSD-2 Digital Sampler/Delay
> * DSD-3 Digital Sampler/Delay
> * DM-1 Delay Machine
> * DM-2 Analog Delay (Used by Dave Grohl)
> * DM-3 Analog Delay
> * DD-2 Digital Delay (used by Tom Morello)
> * DD-3 Digital Delay
> * DD-5 Digital Delay
> * DD-6 Digital Delay - stereo pedal with longer delay times than DD-3
> * DD-7 Digital Delay
> * DD-20 Digital Delay
> * TW-1 T Wah
> * TW-1 Touch Wah
> * AW-2 Auto Wah
> * AW-3 Dynamic Wah
> * FT-2 Dynamic Filter
> * GE-6 Equalizer
> * GE-7 Equalizer
> * PQ-4 Parametric Equalizer
> * SP-1 Spectrum
> * AC-3 Acoustic Simulator
> * AC-2 Acoustic Simulator
> * CS-1 Compression Sustainer
> * CS-2 Compression Sustainer
> * CS-3 Compression Sustainer
> * EH-2 Enhancer
> * PS-2 Digital Pitch Shifter/Delay
> * PS-3 Digital Pitch Shifter/Delay
> * PS-5 Super Shifter
> * PS-6 Harmonist (2010)
> * OC-2 Octaver a.k.a. "Octave" later labeled.
> * OC-3 Super Octave
> * HR-2 Harmonist
> * LM-2 Limiter
> * LS-2 Line Selector
> * NF-1 Noise Gate
> * NS-2 Noise Suppressor
> * PSM-5 Power Supply and Master Switch
> * RC-2 Loop Station
> * RC-20XL Loop Station
> * RC-50 Loop Station
> * SG-1 Slow Gear
> * TU-2 Chromatic Tuner
> * TU-3 Chromatic Tuner (2010)
> * OD-20 Drive Zone
> * CE-20 Chorus Ensemble
> * EQ-20 Advanced EQ
> * DD-20 Giga Delay
> * RC-20XL Loop Station
> * RT-20 Rotary Ensemble
> * RE-20 Space Echo
> * SL-20 Slicer
> * WP-20G Wave Processor
> * OC-20G Poly Octave
> * GP-20 Amp Factory
> * VE-20 Voice Performer (2010)
> * BF-2B Bass Flanger
> * CE-2B Bass Chorus
> * GE-7B Bass Equalizer
> * LM-2B Bass Limiter
> * PQ-3B Parametric Equalizer
> * ODB-3 Bass Overdrive
> * CEB-3 Bass Chorus
> * GEB-7 Bass Equalizer
> * LMB-3 Bass Limiter Enhancer
> * SYB-3 Bass Synthesizer
> * SYB-5 Bass Synthesizer
>Ìû î êàêîé-òî èëè âîîáùå?

ó ìåíÿ áûë ds2
òîëüêî â ëèíèþ îí ïåñî÷èë, ïî ýòîìó ÿ êóïèë çóì707
- Êîíöåðò Ñòàñà Ìèõàéëîâà â Ìóðìàíñêå îòìåí¸í èç-çà îòñóòñòâèÿ çðèòåëåé
- Ïîõîæå, Ìóðìàíñêó ïîðà ïðèñâàèâàòü çâàíèå Êóëüòóðíîé Ñòîëèöû Ðîññèè.
www.shift-line.com
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Âðåìÿ: 01.03.2011 21:20 
The
Fuzz

Òàê ïîäáåðè,òî ÷òî ïî çâóêó áëèæå è þçàé.
The RAT.The last fuzz you will ever need!
No amount of talk on a forum will give you as much information as 10 seconds plugged in.
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Âðåìÿ: 01.03.2011 21:24 
ÌÀÑÒÅÐ ÞÃÐÛ
☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

äåòè ýòî ïðåêðàñíî: êóäà íè ñÿäåøü – â æîïå êóáèê. :lol:
Òîëüêî íå íàæèìàéòå ýòó ññûëêó
http://lleo.aha.ru/na/
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Âðåìÿ: 02.03.2011 00:41 
Pey whiskey
Love siski

äèëåè áîñîâñêèå íè÷å...ïåðåãðóçû ïóêå :idea2:
>ñpaòü ñåë, è âûëåòåëî âñ¸ èç ãîëîâû (ñ)Äîðåìèäîðåäî

>ÿ ñïåðâà ïîìíèë, à ïîòîì ïåðåñòàë (ñ)Äîðåìèäîðåäî
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Âðåìÿ: 02.03.2011 06:53 



KOSMOS ,DD-3 Digital Delay,CE-1 Chorus, CS-3 Compression Sustainer,NS-2 Noise Suppressor,TU-2 Chromatic Tuner
Ñðåäè âñåõ æèâûõ ñóùåñòâ íà çåìëå, òîëüêî ÷åëîâåê ïëàòèò äåíüãè çà òî, ÷òîáû æèòü.
Ó ðóññêîãî ÷åëîâåêà äâå ìå÷òû: óíè÷òîæèòü Àìåðèêó è âûèãðàòü òóäà ãðèíêàðòó (ñ)
Ðîññèÿ - ýòî 1/6 ÷àñòü ñóøè, ñî âñåõ ñòîðîí îêðóæ¸ííàÿ öèâèëèçàöèåé!
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Âðåìÿ: 02.03.2011 06:55 



âïðî÷åì,âìåñòî DD-3 Digital Delay ÿ äàâíî þçàþ SMB Digital Delay. çâóê áîëüøå íðàâèòñÿ.
Ñðåäè âñåõ æèâûõ ñóùåñòâ íà çåìëå, òîëüêî ÷åëîâåê ïëàòèò äåíüãè çà òî, ÷òîáû æèòü.
Ó ðóññêîãî ÷åëîâåêà äâå ìå÷òû: óíè÷òîæèòü Àìåðèêó è âûèãðàòü òóäà ãðèíêàðòó (ñ)
Ðîññèÿ - ýòî 1/6 ÷àñòü ñóøè, ñî âñåõ ñòîðîí îêðóæ¸ííàÿ öèâèëèçàöèåé!
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Âðåìÿ: 02.03.2011 07:02 



*SMB Delay Processor
Ñðåäè âñåõ æèâûõ ñóùåñòâ íà çåìëå, òîëüêî ÷åëîâåê ïëàòèò äåíüãè çà òî, ÷òîáû æèòü.
Ó ðóññêîãî ÷åëîâåêà äâå ìå÷òû: óíè÷òîæèòü Àìåðèêó è âûèãðàòü òóäà ãðèíêàðòó (ñ)
Ðîññèÿ - ýòî 1/6 ÷àñòü ñóøè, ñî âñåõ ñòîðîí îêðóæ¸ííàÿ öèâèëèçàöèåé!
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Âðåìÿ: 02.03.2011 08:23 
ÌÀÑÒÅÐ ÞÃÐÛ
☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

DieZZ , à ïåðåãðóç?
Òîëüêî íå íàæèìàéòå ýòó ññûëêó
http://lleo.aha.ru/na/
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Âðåìÿ: 02.03.2011 09:56 
Ìîñêâà
Çàìå÷àòåëüíî êàêàÿ ïðåëåñòüSpector ReBoop

KOSMOS , Âñ¸ ñ íèìè íîðìàëüíî ïðè ïðÿìûõ ðóêàõ....âîîáùå â ïîèñêå îáñóæäàëîñü ñòî ìóëü¸íîâ ðàç: íîâûå áîññû õóæå ñòàðûõ.Õîðîøî ìîäÿòüñÿ âñÿêèìè Êåëëÿìè,Àíàëîãìýíàìè,Þñàóíäàìè,Äæèëüêàìè)))))))

êëàññè÷åñêèé ïðèìåð ñàòðèàíè è âàé þçàþò dd-3 è ds-1....çâóê òû ñëûøàë...




çû..÷òîáû íå òðîëèòü..áûë â ïîçàïðîøëîì ãîäó íà Êðèñå Äóàðòå ...îõðèíåë êîãäà óâèäåë 4-5 ïåäàëåê áîññ...ÿâíî óãàäûâàëèñü îâåð, äñ1, õîðóñ è äèëåé....êàêáå à çâóê áûë "òîò ñàìûé" ÷òî ëèøíèé ðàç äîêàçàëî ÷òî äåëî â (ïîñëåäîâàòåëüíîñòü ïðÿìàÿ) ðóêàõ,ãèòàðå,óñèëêå,ãîëîâå,ïåäàëÿõ
Ïàðîëü îò ôëóäà â ìîåì ïðîôàéëå â ãðàôå i c q
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Âðåìÿ: 02.03.2011 10:06 
Ìîñêâà


áûëî ïàðó áîññîâ, ïðàâäà ìîäåíûõ.
òàéâàíüñêèå íåìîäåííûå -êàêà, îñîáåííî ïðè êðèâûõ ðóêàõ è ñòðåìíûõ óñèëèòåëÿõ :)
Gibson EB bass/Gibson LP Std
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Âðåìÿ: 02.03.2011 11:04 
Ìîñêâà
Fuzz Faces

íîðìàëüíûå ïåäàëè ÷å :) íå áóòèê êàíåøíî, íî èãðàòü ìîæíî åùå êàê, ãëàâíîå óìåòü ;)
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Âðåìÿ: 02.03.2011 11:07 
spb
suhr+axefx+adam ♫

þçàþ rc2 loop station äëÿ çàíÿòèé :4:
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Âðåìÿ: 02.03.2011 11:43 
Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Fender Stratocaster, Yamaha SA, Martin

ìíå âîò íå íðàâèòñÿ êîðïóñû áîññîâñêèõ ïðèìî÷åê... ïåäàëè ñ êíîïêàìè ãîðàçäî áëèæå :idea2:
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Âðåìÿ: 02.03.2011 11:57 



>ìíå âîò íå íðàâèòñÿ êîðïóñû áîññîâñêèõ ïðèìî÷åê... ïåäàëè ñ êíîïêàìè ãîðàçäî áëèæå

ß êàê-òî ñîçäàâàë êñòàòè òåìó, åñííî îáðàòèâøóþñÿ â áîññîñðà÷, íà òåìó òîãî, ÷òî â ïðèíöèïå ñ òî÷êè çðåíÿ ýðãîíîìèêè áîññû êóäà ïðîäóìàííåå, ÷åì ñòàíäàðòíûå ïî òèïó mxr. Îñîáåííî, êîãäà íåñêîëüêî ðó÷åê, è íà íèõ ðó÷êè "óòþæêè", òî øàíñ íà îáû÷íîé ïåíäàëèíå çàäåòü íîãîé çà ðåïèòèöèþ/êîíöåðò 100%. Ïî áîññàì ìîæíî òîïòàòüñÿ íå öåëÿñü)))
Èç ìîåãî îïûòà, ïîíðàâèëèñü:
BD-2, OD-3. Îäíè èç ñàìûõ ïðèêîëüíûõ íå áûòèêîâûõ îâåðîâ.
TR-2. Ïðîñàäêà ïå÷àëèò, íî â îñòàëüíîì èíòåðåñíî
BF-2. Äà ïðîñòî ïðèêîëüíàÿ ïåíäëàëèíà
DD-3, DD-7. Êë¸âûå äåëåéêè. DD-7 îñîáåííî ïîíðàâèëñÿ  ïðèíöèïå ïî âñåì ïîêàçàòåëÿì.
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Âðåìÿ: 02.03.2011 12:18 
ÑÏá


>Ìåíÿ ïðèâëåêàåò ñòîèìîñòü
:4: öåííèê íà BOSS ñåé÷àñ íåñêîëüêî çàâûøåííûé.
õî÷ó êàê-íèáóäü ïîñìîòðåòü PS-6 Harmonist (2010), íî ïîêà â ïðîäàæå íå âèäåë.
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Âðåìÿ: 02.03.2011 12:24 



>>Ìåíÿ ïðèâëåêàåò ñòîèìîñòü
> öåííèê íà BOSS ñåé÷àñ íåñêîëüêî çàâûøåííûé.
ß äóìàë ýòî ó íàñ â ñòðàíå íà ìàøèíû öåííèê íåñêîëüêî çàâûøåííûé, à íà ïåíäàëè áîöö âïîëíå ñåáå)))

Ýòî êñòàòè î÷åðåäíîé ðàç ê âîïðîñó î "òàê íàçûâàåìîì áóòèêå". Òóò âåäü äåëî òàêîå, 150-200 áàêñîâ çàïëàòèòü çà ïåíäàëü ðó÷êàìè ñîáðàííóþ, ïðè÷¸ì äëÿ ÷åëîâåêà, êîòîðûé èãðàåò íà ãèòàðå, èíòåðåñóåòñÿ çâóêîì âðîäå êàê çàïàäëî. À îòäàòü 500-1000 áàêîñâ çà ãîâíîñìàðòôîí, ñ ñîôòîì ïèñàííûì ñòóäåíòàìè è íà÷èíêîé ÊÍÐ, ñ êîòîðûì ïîëîâèíà êóï÷èíî õîäèò, ýòî íîðìàëüíàÿ òðàòà äåíåã.
ß ýòî óòðèðóþ, íî ëþáÿò ïðîñòî ó íàñ äåíþæêè ñîñåäà ïîñ÷èòàòü :deal:
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Âðåìÿ: 02.03.2011 12:56 
ÑÏá


>íî ëþáÿò ïðîñòî ó íàñ äåíþæêè ñîñåäà ïîñ÷èòàòü
à ýòî âîîáùå ê ÷åìó?
>îòäàòü 500-1000 áàêîñâ çà ãîâíîñìàðòôîí, ñ ñîôòîì ïèñàííûì ñòóäåíòàìè è íà÷èíêîé ÊÍÐ, ñ êîòîðûì ïîëîâèíà êóï÷èíî õîäèò, ýòî íîðìàëüíàÿ òðàòà äåíåã.
:4: ó ìíîãèõ âîîáùå ñòàðü¸ âñÿêîå
>ß äóìàë ýòî ó íàñ â ñòðàíå íà ìàøèíû öåííèê íåñêîëüêî çàâûøåííûé, à íà ïåíäàëè áîöö âïîëíå ñåáå
âñ¸-òàêè íà ïÿòèñîòêó íà BOSS öåíó ïîäíÿëè :idea2:
à ìàðøàëëîâñêèå ïåäàëè ñáûâàëè çà ïîëöåíû
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Òåìà: Re: Ïëþñû è ìèíóñû ïåäàëåé Boss?
Âðåìÿ: 02.03.2011 14:46 
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Òåìà: Re: Ïëþñû è ìèíóñû ïåäàëåé Boss?
Âðåìÿ: 02.03.2011 16:10 
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