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Òåìà: Retro-Sonic Chorus
Âðåìÿ: 24.04.2010 18:18 
Ìîñêâà


Èíòåðåñíóþ íàáëþäàþ êàðòèíó ñ Retro-Sonic Chorus! Êàê øèêàðíî ðàçðåêëàìèðîâàíà!Êàêîé-òî àìåðèêîñ âîñòîðãàåòñÿ :"Ëó÷øàÿ ïåäàëü,êîòîðóþ ÿ êîãäà-ëèáî äåðæàë â ðóêàõ!" ß ñàì ïîïàëñÿ íà ýòó óäî÷êó.Âî-ïåðâûõ öåíà 9500 (öåíà,âðîäå êàê, îïðåäåëÿåò ýòó "áóòèêîâóþ" ïåäàëü â ðàçðÿä ýëèòíûõ),âî-âòîðûõ 2 ìåñÿöà îæèäàíèÿ!È ÷òî?Ãîâíî ïîëíîå!Îòâå÷àþ,ðåáÿòà!Êñòàòè,çäåñü ýòó ïåäàëü î÷åíü àêòèâíî ñëèâàþò,êòî èìåë íåîñòîðîæíîñòü êóïèòü.
Íó çà 1500-ìàêñèìóì 2000 ìîæíî áûëî áû äëÿ ðàçíîîáðàçèÿ êóïèòü,è òî âðÿä ëè."Òåïëûé" çâóê íà ñàìîì äåëå ïðîñòî ìóòíûé,ïðè ýòîì íåò âîçìîæíîñòè ìåíÿòü ÷àñòîòíûå õàð-êè.Âèáðàòî óæàñíîå,äà è íå íóæíî îíî òàì..Âîò ÷òî çíà÷èò çîìáèðîâàíèå!Ýòî èç òîé æå ñåðèè,÷òî Çèí÷óê-çîëîòàÿ ãèòàðà Ðîññèè,Áàñêîâ-çîëîòîé ãîëîñ Ðîññèè è ò.ä
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Òåìà: Re: Retro-Sonic Chorus
Âðåìÿ: 24.04.2010 20:49 
Ìîñêâà


Íåäîñòàòîê åñòü - íå ðåãóëèðóåòñÿ ãëóáèíà ìîäóëÿöèè íà õîðóñå, äëèííûå àêêîðäû ñâàëèâàþò èç òîíàëüíîñòè íàôèã.
Ê çâóêó ïðåòåíçèé íåò, âñ¸ êë¸âî. Âèáðàòî âîîáùå ÷óìîâîå. Ó ìåíÿ áûëî ìíîãî ïðèìî÷åê õîðóñ-âèáðàòî, ïîêà ýòà ëó÷øàÿ.
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Òåìà: Re: Retro-Sonic Chorus
Âðåìÿ: 24.04.2010 21:31 
Ìîñêâà
guitar, bass

Ïðîäàé çà 2000, ðàç íå íðàâèòñÿ è çâóê íà òàêóþ ñóììó îöåíèë :)
åñëè ãîâîðèòü î âèíòàæå, òî êâàêó âîòêíóòîìó â ôóçç è çàòåì â êîìáèê áîðä íå íóæåí (ñ) Jester
ìóçûêó íå íàäî äóìàòü, ýò âàì íå IT-øíèêè çäåñü, à òâîð÷åñêèå ïîöîíû (ñ) Àëüìà
Ñîâåòóþ êîïèòü íà ìå÷òó :) À íå ïîêóïàòü ìàêåòû (ñ) ÌàêñèìóñÚ
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Òåìà: Re: Retro-Sonic Chorus
Âðåìÿ: 24.04.2010 21:34 
Ìîcêâà
Music Man JP6, Music Man Majesty 7, Fender Am Stratocaster

Ãîòîâ âçÿòü åå ó òÿ çà 5 ïðÿì çàâòðà =)
Music Man JP6, Music Man Majesty 7, Fender Am Stratocaster, AXE FX2 XL
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Òåìà: Re: Retro-Sonic Chorus
Âðåìÿ: 24.04.2010 22:22 
Ìîñêâà


Íóæíî áûëî áðàòü íå òî ÷òî áîëüøå ðàçðåêëàìèðîâàíî, à òî ÷òî áîëüøå íðàâèòñÿ ïî çâóêó. Åñëè íóæåí ïðîçðà÷íûé õîëîäíûé õîðóñ, òî çà÷åì áûëî áðàòü retro-sonic? Ýòî òàùåì òî íàèáîëåå òî÷íûé êëîí Boss CE-1, ïîýòîìó è ðåãóëèðîâêè òàêèå, è êíîïêà âûáðàòî åñòü.
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Òåìà: Re: Retro-Sonic Chorus
Âðåìÿ: 24.04.2010 22:24 
Ìîñêâà


È âîîáùå ýòî ðàçäåë äëÿ ïðîäàæè, à íå äëÿ îáñóæäåíèÿ.
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Òåìà: Re: Retro-Sonic Chorus
Âðåìÿ: 24.04.2010 23:38 
Ìîñêâà
Strat, ASAT, SG, Takamine

äà ÷åòî â îáùåì-òî íå ñëèøêîì îí çâó÷èò èäåíòè÷íî..) òàê ñåáå êîïèÿ))
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Òåìà: Re: Retro-Sonic Chorus
Âðåìÿ: 24.04.2010 23:46 



Retro-Sonic Chorus - ýòî ðåïëèêà Roland Boss CE-1 1976 ãîäà
êòî âèäåë è ñëûøàë îðèãèíàë ÑÅ-1 - òîò çíàåò î ÷åì ðå÷ü
îðèãèíàë âñ¸-òàêè çâó÷èò ÷óòü-÷óòü ÿð÷å
êòî íå ñëûøàë îðèãèíàë - ìîæåò îáëîìàòüñÿ îò ðåïëèêè
ìóòíûé çâóê ó Retro-Sonic îò òîãî, ÷òî åìó íóæåí buffer - òàêàÿ æå èñòîðèÿ ñ Voodoo Lab Analog Chorus
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Òåìà: Re: Retro-Sonic Chorus
Âðåìÿ: 25.04.2010 09:42 



>Ãîâíî ïîëíîå!Îòâå÷àþ,ðåáÿòà!

Íó, åñëè ïàöàí îòâå÷àåò, íóæíî åõàòü è äàâàòü ####þëåé ðåòðîñîíèêàì, à òî ÷¸ò íå ïî ïîíÿòèÿì...
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Òåìà: Re: Retro-Sonic Chorus
Âðåìÿ: 25.04.2010 10:17 
Moskwah-wah-wah
Äâà

äëÿ ìåíÿ âîîáùå çàãàäêà êàê ìîæíî âûêèäûâàòü áîëüøå 200 áàêñîâ çà òàêîãî ðîäà ïåäàëü
äàæå êîãäà âûêèäûâàåøü áîëüøå ñòà áàêñîâ ïëàòèøü áîëüøå çà ðàñøèðåííûé ôóíêöèîíàë à íå çà çâóê
íî âîò îò 200 è äàëüøå...
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Òåìà: Re: Retro-Sonic Chorus
Âðåìÿ: 25.04.2010 11:42 
Ìîñêâà


âîîáùå ïåäàëü íå äîëæíà ñòîèòü áîëåå 200 äîëëàðîâ. ÿ âñåãî çà 2 ïåäàëè îòäàë áîëüit äåíåã, äà è òî, ïîêóïàë èõ íå â ñëåïóþ
Gibson EB bass/Gibson LP Std
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Òåìà: Re: Retro-Sonic Chorus
Âðåìÿ: 25.04.2010 13:56 
Ìîñêâà


àâòîð, êàêîãî çâóêà ïðèìåðíî õî÷åøü? êèíü àóäèî
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Òåìà: Re: Retro-Sonic Chorus
Âðåìÿ: 25.04.2010 14:55 
Ìîñêâà


ß ïðîäàë åãî çà 8500,ñåé÷àñ ÷åëîâåê,êîòîðûé êóïèë ó ìåíÿ,ïðîäàåò çà 8.
Òî,÷òî íàäî âûáèðàòü ïî ñëóõó-ýòî ïðîñòî îòêðûòèå äëÿ ìåíÿ!Õîðîøî,÷òî ñêàçàë!ß áû íå äîãàäàëñÿ!Íî ãäå æå çäåñü íàéäåøü â ìàãàçèíàõ íîðìàëüíûå ïåäàëè,ãèòàðû è ò.ä???Âåäü âñ¸ çàáèòî êèòàéñêèì áàðàõëîì.À äàæå,åñëè ãäå-òî ÷òî-òî è åñòü,òî ÐÓÊÀÌÈ ÍÅ ÒÐÎÃÀÒÜ!Èëè âîïðîñ:"À òû ïîêóïàòü áóäåøü?Òîãäà ìîæíî ïîñìîòðåòü"
Íó ëàäíî,ðåáÿòà,íå êèïèøóéòå,ïðîñòî ÿ ïîä âïå÷àòëåíèåì ðåøèë íàïèñàòü ýòó îáúÿâó(æàëü,÷òî ìíå íå ïîïàëàñü òàêàÿ,êîãäà ÿ ñîáèðàëñÿ ïîêóïàòü ýòó è äðóãèå,çðÿ êóïëåííûå,ïåäàëè)À âû ñàìè ðåøàéòå,÷òî äåëàòü.
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Òåìà: Re: Retro-Sonic Chorus
Âðåìÿ: 25.04.2010 15:23 
The
Fuzz

Ìíå äâå äåøåâûå ïåäàëè îò Artec - Vintage Chorus http://artecsound.com/effect/se-vch.htm
è SE-VPH Vintage Phaser
http://artecsound.com/effect/se-vph.htm
ãîðàçäî âìåíÿåìåå çâó÷àò ìíîãèõ èìåíèòûõ
ïîñëåäíèé ðåàëüíî ëó÷øå MXR Phase 90 áåç áóñòàð è ïðî÷. ìóåòû
Íà yuotube åñòü ñðàâíåíèå, ñîâðåìåííûé ñòîêîâûé MXR Phase 90 ñëèâàåò
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn_U-2guskw
The RAT.The last fuzz you will ever need!
No amount of talk on a forum will give you as much information as 10 seconds plugged in.
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Òåìà: Re: Retro-Sonic Chorus
Âðåìÿ: 25.04.2010 16:53 
Moskwah-wah-wah
Äâà

mxr micro chorus ðåøàåò :idea2:
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Òåìà: Re: Retro-Sonic Chorus
Âðåìÿ: 25.04.2010 16:54 



âñÿ ïðîáëåìà â òîì, ÷òî ìíîãèå íå ñîâñåì ÷åòêî ñåáå ïðåäñòàâëÿþò ÷òî îíè ïîêóïàþò - â íàøèõ óñëîâèÿõ ýòî è íå âîçìîæíî, â ìàãàçèíàõ òàêîãî íåò - îò ýòîãî áûâàåò îáëîì îò ïîêóïêè - îæèäàëîñü áîëüøå ÷åì ïîëó÷èëîñü.
ïîâòîðþ åùå ðàç: Retro-Sonic Chorus - ýòî ðåïëèêà Roland Boss CE-1 1976 ã.
Êòî íå èìååò ïðåäñòàâëåíèÿ ÷òî òàêîå îðèãèíàë CE-1 è êàê îí çâó÷èò - íàäî áûòü îñòîðîæíåå ñ êëîíàìè
Retro-Sonic Chorus çâó÷èò ïðàêòè÷åñêè (ïî÷òè) êàê îðèãèíàë ÑÅ-1
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Òåìà: Re: Retro-Sonic Chorus
Âðåìÿ: 25.04.2010 17:07 
Ìîñêâà
Strat, ASAT, SG, Takamine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeKon5JC13g äà âîò äàæå íà âèäåî ñëûøíû îòëè÷èÿ. ×åãî óæ òàì. Âåñüìà ïîõîæå, íî íå èäåíòè÷íî.
Ýòî ÿ ê òîìó, ÷òî ýòîò "êëîí" îáëàäàåò âïîëíå îïðåäåëåííûìè ìóòàöèÿìè))
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Òåìà: Re: Retro-Sonic Chorus
Âðåìÿ: 25.04.2010 17:43 
Ìîñêâà


>mxr micro chorus ðåøàåò
à ÷¸,õîðîø?
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Òåìà: Re: Retro-Sonic Chorus
Âðåìÿ: 25.04.2010 17:45 
Moskwah-wah-wah
Äâà

îñîáåííî öåíîé :idea2: ÿ âîîáùå äóìàþ ïðèêóïèòü
ó ìåíÿ çàêê âàéëä õîðóñ íî îí ñëîæíûé äëÿ ìåíÿ, ïðîäàì :lol:
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Òåìà: Re: Retro-Sonic Chorus
Âðåìÿ: 25.04.2010 19:34 
Ìîñêâà
Strat, ASAT, SG, Takamine

Jim_Bud , à ìîäòîí æå åùå....
Strat, ASAT, SG->Budda-> Cmatmods Signa Comp-> Zendrive->OCD->Fulltone '70 -> MXR Phase 90-> T-Rex Tremster-> RC Booster-> Strymon Brigadier-> Strymon Blue Sky// TS-808->BJFe Folk Fuzz->Wampler Plexi Drive-> Ibanez Flanger->EHX Pulsar->Malekko 616
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Òåìà: Re: Retro-Sonic Chorus
Âðåìÿ: 25.04.2010 20:36 
Ìîñêâà


âàùå ïðåäëàãàþ çàïðåòèòü õîðóñû,òàê êàê ÿ íå ïîéìó,êàêîé ìíå êóïèòü,è âàùå íóæåí ëè îí ìíå :idea2:
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Òåìà: Re: Retro-Sonic Chorus
Âðåìÿ: 25.04.2010 22:36 
Ìîñêâà
Strat, ASAT, SG, Takamine

fusionman , ìíå íå íóæåí, äàâàé çàïðåùàòü)))
Strat, ASAT, SG->Budda-> Cmatmods Signa Comp-> Zendrive->OCD->Fulltone '70 -> MXR Phase 90-> T-Rex Tremster-> RC Booster-> Strymon Brigadier-> Strymon Blue Sky// TS-808->BJFe Folk Fuzz->Wampler Plexi Drive-> Ibanez Flanger->EHX Pulsar->Malekko 616
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Òåìà: Re: Retro-Sonic Chorus
Âðåìÿ: 25.04.2010 23:07 
Ìîñêâà


Gustaw ,
ÿ ïîìíþ)òû ãîâîðèë)
êòî òðåòüèì áóäåò?)
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Òåìà: Re: Retro-Sonic Chorus
Âðåìÿ: 25.04.2010 23:13 



ß ñ÷èòàþ, ÷òî õîðóñ äëÿ ïåäåêîôô))
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Òåìà: Re: Retro-Sonic Chorus
Âðåìÿ: 25.04.2010 23:22 
Ìîñêâà


>ß ñ÷èòàþ, ÷òî õîðóñ äëÿ ïåäåêîôô))
À îòêóäà ýòî ïîøëî? ×àñòî âñòðå÷àþ äàííîå óòâåðæäåíèå :)
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Òåìà: Re: Retro-Sonic Chorus
Âðåìÿ: 25.04.2010 23:25 
Ìîñêâà


>>ß ñ÷èòàþ, ÷òî õîðóñ äëÿ ïåäåêîôô))
>À îòêóäà ýòî ïîøëî? ×àñòî âñòðå÷àþ äàííîå óòâåðæäåíèå
ñìåíè êðóã îáùåíèÿ :ulyb:
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Òåìà: Re: Retro-Sonic Chorus
Âðåìÿ: 25.04.2010 23:26 



Ó ìåíÿ ëè÷íî àññîöèàöèÿ ñ õîðóñîì è äåëååì ìåðçêèé ñëàùàâûé ñàóíä 80-õ. È âñå èçâëåêàòåëè ýòèõ çâóêîâ ñ ïîäâåä¸ííûìè ãëàçàìè, áîëüøèìè ïðè÷åñîíàìè è óçêèìè äæèíñàìè... Âñ¸ ýòî ãîìîñÿòèíà)))
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Òåìà: Re: Retro-Sonic Chorus
Âðåìÿ: 25.04.2010 23:29 
Ìîñêâà


Jester ,
íó òû çàãíóë)))
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Òåìà: Re: Retro-Sonic Chorus
Âðåìÿ: 25.04.2010 23:48 
Ìîñêâà
Strat, ASAT, SG, Takamine

fusionman , íèêîãî îí íå çàãèáàë! îí æå ïðîòèâ âñåãî ýòîãî))))
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Òåìà: Re: Retro-Sonic Chorus
Âðåìÿ: 26.04.2010 08:45 



>ß ñ÷èòàþ, ÷òî õîðóñ äëÿ ïåäåêîôô))


ãû-ãû
ïåðâûå, êòî âñïîìíèëñÿ - Ñêîòò Õåíäåðñîí, Êóðò Êîáåéí, Ýíäè Ñàììåðñ, Âàí Õàëåí - íàâåðíî ïåäèêè
è âàùå - ÒÀÌ âñå ãèòàðèñòû ïåäèêè ïîòîìó, ÷òî îíè èñïîëüçóþò õîðóñû - õîòü èíîãäà, íî èñïîëüçóþò
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Òåìà: Re: Retro-Sonic Chorus
Âðåìÿ: 26.04.2010 09:37 
Ìîñêâà


ÒÀÌ è ñðåäè íå èñïîëüçóþùèõ õîðóñ ïåäèêîâ õâàòàåò.
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Òåìà: Re: Retro-Sonic Chorus
Âðåìÿ: 26.04.2010 11:50 
Ìîñêâà


Âîò ïðèêîë!Ãîñïîäèí protozanshchik "ñ ó÷¸íûì âèäîì çíàòîêà" àêòèâíî ó÷àñòâóåò â îáñóæäåíèè ìîåé îáúÿâû
"Íóæíî áûëî áðàòü íå òî ÷òî áîëüøå ðàçðåêëàìèðîâàíî, à òî ÷òî áîëüøå íðàâèòñÿ ïî çâóêó. Åñëè íóæåí ïðîçðà÷íûé õîëîäíûé õîðóñ, òî çà÷åì áûëî áðàòü retro-sonic?"
à ñàì âòèõîìîëî÷êó ïðîäàåò ÷òî áû âû äóìàëè?Ïðàâèëüíî,Retro-Sonic Chorus!×òî æ òàêîå?Ãäå æå âàøà êîìïåòåíòíîñòü è ðàññóäèòåëüíîñòü? Íî ýòî åù¸ íå âñ¸...Òîò ÷åëîâåê,êîòîðûé íåäàâíî ó ìåíÿ êóïèë , è òóò æå íà÷àë è ñàì åãî ñëèâàòü,íåêòî ommix,ïèøåò â îòâåò íà îáúÿâëåíèå î ïðîäàæå protozanshchikà
"Øèêàðíûé õîðóñ. Ñòîèò êàæäóþ êîïåéêó èç ýòîé öåíû. Óäà÷è â ïðîäàæå."
Íó âû,áëèí,äà¸òå!
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Òåìà: Re: Retro-Sonic Chorus
Âðåìÿ: 26.04.2010 12:06 
Ìîñêâà


>à ñàì âòèõîìîëî÷êó ïðîäàåò ÷òî áû âû äóìàëè?Ïðàâèëüíî,Retro-Sonic Chorus!
Íó äà, ïðîäàþ êñòàòè.
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Òåìà: Re: Retro-Sonic Chorus
Âðåìÿ: 26.04.2010 12:27 



leshajazz2009 , à ïðåäñòàâü ñåáå, ÷òî ìíîãèå ïîêóïàþò è ïðîäàþò ïåäàëüêè äëÿ ïîèñêà ñâîåãî çâóêà, ñîñòàâëåíèþ ñâîåãî ìíåíèÿ, à íå óñòðàèâàþò òóò âîíü íà ôîðóìå èç-çà òîãî, ÷òî ïåäàëüêà íå ïîíðàâèëàñü. Åñëè ÿ áóäó ïèñàòü î êàæäîé ïåäàëüêå, ÷òî êóïèë è ïðîäàë çà ïîñëåäíåå âðåìÿ òóò áëèí öåëóþ ñòðàíèöó çàíÿòü ìîæíî. Êàê ðàç çà####è òàêèå äåÿòåëè, êîòîðûå çàäàþò èäèîòñêèå âîïðîñû "à ÷èâî ïðîäà¸øü?". Õî÷åòñÿ íîâîãî, ñòàðîå ïðîäà¸òñÿ, âñ¸ ïðîñòî.
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Òåìà: Re: Retro-Sonic Chorus
Âðåìÿ: 26.04.2010 12:28 
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Ãèòàðà

>à ïðåäñòàâü ñåáå, ÷òî ìíîãèå ïîêóïàþò è ïðîäàþò ïåäàëüêè äëÿ ïîèñêà ñâîåãî çâóêà, ñîñòàâëåíèþ ñâîåãî ìíåíèÿ, à íå óñòðàèâàþò òóò âîíü íà ôîðóìå èç-çà òîãî, ÷òî ïåäàëüêà íå ïîíðàâèëàñü.
À åùå ïðîñòî îò íåêóé äåëàòü :idea2:
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Òåìà: Re: Retro-Sonic Chorus
Âðåìÿ: 26.04.2010 12:31 



> Êàê ðàç çà####è òàêèå äåÿòåëè, êîòîðûå çàäàþò èäèîòñêèå âîïðîñû "à ÷èâî ïðîäà¸øü?". Õî÷åòñÿ íîâîãî, ñòàðîå ïðîäà¸òñÿ, âñ¸ ïðîñòî.

à äåÿòåëè, êîòîðûå ïèøóò, ÷òî "õîðóñ äëÿ ïåäåêîôô" íå çà###ëè??
:lol:
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Òåìà: Re: Retro-Sonic Chorus
Âðåìÿ: 26.04.2010 12:34 
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Âîñïîëüçóþñü ìîìåíòîì è ñêàæó, ÷òî åùå ïðîäàâàòü áóäó Fulltone OCD è Digitech PDS 1002 :) Ýòè ïåäàëè, leshajazz2009, òîæå ïî-âàøåìó ãîâíî?
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Òåìà: Re: Retro-Sonic Chorus
Âðåìÿ: 26.04.2010 12:53 



pep , íó ÿ æå íå âèíîâàò ÷òî õîðóñ äëÿ ïåäèêîâ...
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Òåìà: Re: Retro-Sonic Chorus
Âðåìÿ: 26.04.2010 12:56 



>pep , íó ÿ æå íå âèíîâàò ÷òî õîðóñ äëÿ ïåäèêîâ...

à êòî âèíîâàò?
õîðóñ?
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Òåìà: Re: Retro-Sonic Chorus
Âðåìÿ: 26.04.2010 13:13 
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