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Ìîñêâà


Íåèçáåæíîñòü ïåäàëîìàíèè â òîì, ÷òî ïåäàëåé íèêîãäà íå áûâàåò ìíîãî, à ïåäàëáîðä, â êîòîðûé âñå íàäî óïèõíóòü ïî÷åìó-òî íå ðåçèíîâûé. Âîò è ïðèõîäèòñÿ èçãàëÿòüñÿ, ÷òîáû îòòÿíóòü ìîìåíò ïîêóïêè íîâîãî ÷åìîäàíà.
Boss BCB-60 ïðåæäå âñåãî ìíå íðàâèòñÿ óäîáñòâîì. Ïðîñòàÿ ñáîðêà-ðàçáîðêà, âõîäû è âûõîäû íà âåðõíåé ïàíåëè. Íî òî, ÷òî îí èçíà÷àëüíî ñïðîýêòèðîâàí ïîä 6 ïåäàëåé òèïà áîññ ìåíÿ àáñîëþòíî íå óñòðàèâàëî, ïîýòîìó ñàìî-ñîáîé ïðè ïîêóïêå ÿ óáðàë ïëàíêó ñ íàäïèñüþ áîññ è ïîäðåçàë ïëàñòèêîâîå îñíîâàíèå ïëàíêè, ÷òîáû ñðîâíÿòü åãî ñ îñòàëüíûì ïîëîì. Ýòîãî ìíå õâàòèëî íà äîëãî.
Íî âðåìÿ èäåò. È îäíàæäû ìåíÿ êðåïêî ïîäâåë àäàïòåð ïèòàíèÿ, êîòîðûé ñäîõ â ñàìûé íåïîäõîäÿùèé ìîìåíò, àêêóðàò ïåðåä êîíöåðòîì. Ïîòîì îí êàêèì-òî íåïîñòèæèìûì äëÿ ìåíÿ îáðàçîì çàðàáîòàë, íî ÿ ðåøèë áîëüøå íå èñïûòûâàòü ñóäüáó è çàêàçàë íîâûé áëîê ïèòàíèÿ. Ê òîìó æå ãäå òî íàä îêåàíîì ëåòèò ìîÿ ïåäàëü, êîòîðîé íóæíî 12 Âîëüò, è ÿ óáèë äâóõ çàéöåâ îäíèì âûñòðåëîì. ×òîáû ñîõðàíèòü ìåñòî ïðèøëîñü ïîéòè íà õèòðîñòü

âûðåçàòü áëîê âûõîäà, è íà åãî ìåñòî âñòàâèòü íîâûé áëîê ïèòàíèÿ



íó, à ÷òîáû ñîõðàíèòü óäîáñòâî ðàñïîëîæåíèÿ âõîäà ÿ ïðèäóìàë åãî ïåðåíåñòè êî âõîäó, â ìåñòî çà êâàêóøêîé, êîòîðîå íå èñïîëüçóåòñÿ




ðàáîòà åùå íå çàêîí÷åíà, íóæíî åùå îáðàáàòûâàòü øâû, íî ðåçóëüòàò óæå âèäåí.
×òî-òî ïîòÿíóëî ìåíÿ íà ðóêîäåëèå))
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e
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Õåõå, ðàçëîìàë-òàêè. :)
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Ìîñêâà


Lex, íó à êóëè, ñòîêà ìåñòà çðÿ ïðîïàäàåò)))
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Ìîñêâà


ÿ ïðîñòî ïîíèìàþ, ÷òî åñëè ÿ ùàñ êóïëþ íîâûé ïåäàëáîðä, òî êóïëþ äîñòàòî÷íî áîëüøîé, òàì áóäåò ñâîáîäíîå ìåñòî, êîòîðîå ïðèäåòñÿ çàïîëíÿòü âñÿêèìè íåíóæíûìè ïåäàëÿìè, êîòîðûå ñúåäÿò ìíîãî äåíåã))
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À ÿ âñ¸ ñàì ñå ñîáðàòü õî÷ó áîðä, òîê ðóêè íå êàê íå äîõîäÿò)))
There are not guitarists, there are musicians playing on a guitar!
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Ìîñêâà
Strat, ASAT, SG, Takamine

Ëåîíèä ìîëîäåö))
Stevie, à ÿ ùàñ ñîáèðàþ òàê ñêàçàòü ñâîèìè ðóêàìè..)) íà 8-10 ïåäàëåé))
Strat, ASAT, SG->Budda-> Cmatmods Signa Comp-> Zendrive->OCD->Fulltone '70 -> MXR Phase 90-> T-Rex Tremster-> RC Booster-> Strymon Brigadier-> Strymon Blue Sky// TS-808->BJFe Folk Fuzz->Wampler Plexi Drive-> Ibanez Flanger->EHX Pulsar->Malekko 616
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êàê äåëàåøü, èç ÷åãî? ÿ äóìàþ, âçÿòü äîñêó, îáòÿíóòü å¸ ÷åìíèòü òèïî âîéëîêà, ïî áîêàì ñäåëàòü óãëêè ( íó ÷òîá êðàñèâî áûëî )
There are not guitarists, there are musicians playing on a guitar!
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Ìîñêâà
Strat, ASAT, SG, Takamine

ñäåëàþ - ñôîòêàþ, óãîëêîâ íå áóäåò. Áóäåò äåðåâÿííûé ïåäàëòðýéí))))
Strat, ASAT, SG->Budda-> Cmatmods Signa Comp-> Zendrive->OCD->Fulltone '70 -> MXR Phase 90-> T-Rex Tremster-> RC Booster-> Strymon Brigadier-> Strymon Blue Sky// TS-808->BJFe Folk Fuzz->Wampler Plexi Drive-> Ibanez Flanger->EHX Pulsar->Malekko 616
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Ìîñêâà


æä¸ìñ ôîòêè...êñòàòè ñêîëüêî òåïåðü ïåäàëåé âìåùàåò òâîé áîðäú?
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Èç ôîòî ÿ íèêóÿ íå ïîíÿë, íî âñå ðàâíî ìîëîäåö :idea2:
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Ìîñêâà


†Sega†, ÿ åùå íå äîäåëàë. íî ñìûñë òàêîâ, ÷òî ÷òîáû ïîÿâèëîñü ìåñòî äëÿ áëîêà ïèòàíèÿ áåç óùåðáà âìåñòèòåëüíîñòè ÿ âûðåçàë è ïåðåíåñ áëîê âûõîäîâ, êîòîðûé íàõîäèëñÿ ñëåâà, â ïðàâûé óãîë :idea2:
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Gustaw ñóøàé, òóò êòîò òåìó âûäâåãàë ïðî ëèïó÷êè, ïî ñàéòàì ïîëàçèë à â íåòå íå ïðîäàþòñÿ, ÿ íå èç Ìîñêâû,à ïîñåìó âîïðîñ, âèäåë ãäåíèòü è â íåòå íà ïîðîäàæó? è êàê ñàì ñîáåðàåøüñÿ ïåäàëè êðåïèòü?
There are not guitarists, there are musicians playing on a guitar!
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Ìîñêâà


Stevie, ýòà òåìà? http://www.musicforums.ru/effectstalk/browse_thread.php?bn=m...7116&replies=70
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Byzantium
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>ÿ íå èç Ìîñêâû,à ïîñåìó âîïðîñ, âèäåë ãäåíèòü è â íåòå íà ïîðîäàæó?


http://www.helvetica-t.ru/catalog-18f.html



îíî???
...Βυζαντινή Ρωμαίοι εδω ... Φαειτ τα σκαταμ.
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xxx
Fender Strat

LEO àãà, ýòà!

G.A. îíî, òîê ãäå ýòî â íåòå ìîæíî çàêàçàòü?
There are not guitarists, there are musicians playing on a guitar!
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Ìîñêâà


Stevie, òàê â åáóðãå ó íèõ åñòü îòäåëåíèå http://www.helvetica-t.ru/region.html#ural
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òåë./ôàêñ: (343) 383-60-60, 368-41-04
www.helvetica-ural.ru
helvetica@helvetica-ural.ru




îíî???
...Βυζαντινή Ρωμαίοι εδω ... Φαειτ τα σκαταμ.
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xxx
Fender Strat

Äûê ÿ èç ×åëÿáèíñêà :)
There are not guitarists, there are musicians playing on a guitar!
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Ìîñêâà


Stevie,çåìåëÿ, òàê çàêàæè, îíè ÷åðåç òðàíñïîðòíóþ êîìïàíèþ ìîãóò ïîñëàòü http://www.helvetica-ural.ru/catalog-fb-ural.html
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Fender Strat

ÿ äóìàþ 5 ìåòðîâ ëåíòû ãàçåëü íå ïîâåç¸ò :)
There are not guitarists, there are musicians playing on a guitar!
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xxx
Fender Strat

òî÷íî íå ïîâåçóò, ÿ ïîçâîíèë :)
There are not guitarists, there are musicians playing on a guitar!
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Ìîñêâà
Strat, ASAT, SG, Takamine

Stevie, ÿ, ñîáñòâåííî, ñîáèðàþñü êàê è ñîáèðàëñÿ íà ëèïó÷êè ïðèêðåïëÿòü, ïî íàâîäêå Äæèììè çàåäó ñåãîäíÿ â Èãîëî÷êó, à òî Ãåëüâåòèêà ðåàëüíî íåóäîáíî ðàñïîëîæåíà ó íàñ. À òàê â ñåòè ìíîãî äîâîëüíî âñÿêèõ ìàãàçèíîâ, êîòîðûå òîðãóþò ëèïó÷êàìè ýòèìè))
Strat, ASAT, SG->Budda-> Cmatmods Signa Comp-> Zendrive->OCD->Fulltone '70 -> MXR Phase 90-> T-Rex Tremster-> RC Booster-> Strymon Brigadier-> Strymon Blue Sky// TS-808->BJFe Folk Fuzz->Wampler Plexi Drive-> Ibanez Flanger->EHX Pulsar->Malekko 616
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Ìîñêâà


Stevie, ÿ ñêîðî ñîáèðàþñü â ãåëüâåòèêó. âïðèíöèïå ìîãó òåáå êóïèòü, ïîñëàòü ÷åðåç åìñ, äåíåã ìíå ïåðåâåäåøü þíèñòðèì, èëè òóïî íà òåëåôîí êèíåøü.
åñëè èíòåðåñíî, òî íàïèøè â ëè÷êó
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xxx
Fender Strat

LEO ñïàñèáî äðóã, íî ÿ òóò ñåë íà òåëåôîí, ïîîáçâàíèâàë ×åëÿáèíñêèå ìàãàçèíû âðîäü íàøîë, åñëè íå òî, òî ñ¸íÿ, çàâòðî ñ òîáîé ñâÿæóñü!
There are not guitarists, there are musicians playing on a guitar!
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Ëèïåöê
ãîëîñ, ãèòàðà, êëàâèøè

ÿ ñîçäàâàë òåìó, ïîêàçûâàë ñâîé õåíä-ìåéä diy áîðä http://www.musicforums.ru/effectstalk/view.php?bn=mfor_effec...%E4#N1215945018
âîáùåì-òî ïåäàëòðåéí è åñòü, èç àëþìèíèåâûõ óãîëêîâ ñ ðûíêà, ñóìêà èç amc, äóìàþ åñëè äåëàòü èç äåðåâà/äñï áóäåò òÿæåëåå ÷åì àëþìèíèé
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xxx
Fender Strat

Ñëóøàéòå, ÿ òîê ùàñ ïîíÿë, ÷òî 25ìì ýòî î÷åíü ìàëî :) ýòîæ ñêîê ëåíòû òàêîé íàäî, ÷òîá áîðä îáêëåèòü? êîðî÷ü, êàê âû äåëàèòå??? :)
There are not guitarists, there are musicians playing on a guitar!
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Ìîñêâà


Ñïëîøíÿêîì íè ê ÷åìó çàêëåèâàòü, äîñòàòî÷íî ïîëîñàìè, íàäåæíî äåðæèòñÿ

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ñàðàòîâ
banhammer

LEO, îò ñïëîøíÿêà ïîòîì îòîðâåøü òîëüêî ñ ïîëîñêàìè)))
êîò, êàòîðûé ïàòîì óìèð :7:
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Ìîñêâà


âî-âî
ÿ ïðè òàêîì êðåïëåíèè åãî òðÿñ êâåðõ-íîãàìè, íè÷åãî äàæå íå ïîäóìàëî îòâàëèòüñÿ
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LEO êàêîé-òî ó òÿ áîðò ìîäíûé :idea2: ñòàðèê à ÷¸ ýò çà äîïîäëíèòåëüíàÿ êíîïî÷êà íà èáàíöå è ÷òî çà ïåäàëü ïîä íàçâàíèåì äüÿâîë? à è åù¸ ñ ðóñàëî÷êàìè? :)
There are not guitarists, there are musicians playing on a guitar!
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Ìîñêâà


Stevie, äåëåé ýòî êèëè ìîä, ÿ åãî ïðîäàë. äîïîëíèòåëüíàÿ êíîïêà ýòî on/off, îñíîâíàÿ repeat
diablo ýòî okko http://okko-fx.com/
Ñ ðóñàëêîé ýòî ïðóæèííûé ðåâåðá little lanilei
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Fender Strat

Âî ñêîëüêî òàêîé ðåâåð âñòàë??? à íà òåìó ëèïêîé ëåíòû, à îñòàëüíî ÷åì îáìàòûâàþò îáû÷íî, ÿ òàê ïîíèìàþ, èç òîãî ÷òî ïîõæå ìîæíî âçÿòü âîéëîê? ó ìåíÿ åñòü ôîòêà Ñàòðèàíåâñêîãî áîðäà, õîòåëîñüáû ïîëó÷èòü ïðèìåðíî òàêîå, íî ÿ òàê ïîíèìàþ, ó íåãî øèðîêèå ýòè ëåíåéêè íàëåïëåíû!!! åñëè íå âëîì çàéäè ïîñìîòðè íà þòóáå, òàì åñòü ïðî åãî áîðä âèäåî
There are not guitarists, there are musicians playing on a guitar!
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Ìîñêâà


Stevie, Íåäîðîãî, 5 òûù âñåãî, íî åãî õðåí íàéäåøü, ìíå îí ñëó÷àéíî ïîïàëñÿ
Gibson EB bass/Gibson LP Std
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xxx
Fender Strat

Áîðä ñàòðèàíåâñêèé ïîñìîòðåë?
There are not guitarists, there are musicians playing on a guitar!
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Moskwah-wah-wah
Äâà

>LEO, îò ñïëîøíÿêà ïîòîì îòîðâåøü òîëüêî ñ ïîëîñêàìè)))

êñòàòè íèôèãà
ó ìåíÿ íà ôàíåðå îòëè÷íî äåðæèòñÿ
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Êàê ÿ ñäåëàë boss bcb-60 âìåñòèòåëüíåå
Âðåìÿ: 16.04.2009 19:30 
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Fender Strat

Jimmy_Budweiser à òû øèðîêîé îáêëåèâàë èëè êàê?
There are not guitarists, there are musicians playing on a guitar!
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Êàê ÿ ñäåëàë boss bcb-60 âìåñòèòåëüíåå
Âðåìÿ: 16.04.2009 19:58 
ñàðàòîâ
banhammer

>à îñòàëüíî ÷åì îáìàòûâàþò îáû÷íî, ÿ òàê ïîíèìàþ, èç òîãî ÷òî ïîõæå ìîæíî âçÿòü âîéëîê?

íà ïåäàëüáîðä êëåþò êàðïåò èíîãäà. :icon3:
êîò, êàòîðûé ïàòîì óìèð :7:
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Êàê ÿ ñäåëàë boss bcb-60 âìåñòèòåëüíåå
Âðåìÿ: 16.04.2009 20:12 
Ìîñêâà
Strat, ASAT, SG, Takamine

Ñåãîäíÿ êóïèë ñàìîêëåéêó 5 ñì øèðèíîé, áóäó íàêëåèâàòü åå âäîëü äîñîê íà âñþ øèðèíó êàæäîé äîñêè) Õîòÿ ìîæíî áûëî è 2, 5 ñì. âçÿòü. Åñòü â ïðîäàæå íå ñàìîêëåþùàÿñÿ ëèïó÷êà, øèðèíîé ïîðÿäêà 3-3, 5 ñì.
Strat, ASAT, SG->Budda-> Cmatmods Signa Comp-> Zendrive->OCD->Fulltone '70 -> MXR Phase 90-> T-Rex Tremster-> RC Booster-> Strymon Brigadier-> Strymon Blue Sky// TS-808->BJFe Folk Fuzz->Wampler Plexi Drive-> Ibanez Flanger->EHX Pulsar->Malekko 616
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Êàê ÿ ñäåëàë boss bcb-60 âìåñòèòåëüíåå
Âðåìÿ: 16.04.2009 22:49 
Ìîñêâà


>íå ñàìîêëåþùàÿñÿ ëèïó÷êà
íà êëåé ìîìåíò è âñ¸ íàìåðòâî ñèäèò!)
Àâòîð
Òåìà: Re: Êàê ÿ ñäåëàë boss bcb-60 âìåñòèòåëüíåå
Âðåìÿ: 17.04.2009 13:08 
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Fender Strat

Gustaw ýòî êðóòàÿ ïîêóïêà :) âîñêîëüêî îáîøëîñü???
There are not guitarists, there are musicians playing on a guitar!
 ýòîò ôîðóì ìîãóò ïèñàòü òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûå ïîëüçîâàòåëè!