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Òåìà: ×òî äåëàþò ýòè êðóòèëêè?
Âðåìÿ: 26.03.2009 18:56 |
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Ìîñêâà Mesa Heartbreaker; Fender Showman  
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 ðàñïîðÿæåíèè èìååòñÿ Ibanez FL9 ðåâèçèé 80õ ãîäîâ. Ðàçãëÿäûâàÿ åãî (äà è íå òîëüêî) â äåòàëÿõ îáíàðóæèë ñì ôîòî. ×òî îíè äåëàþò? Êðóòèòü íå òîðîïëþñü, èáî ehx nano clone ïîñëå òàêèõ êðó÷åíèé âîîáùå íà âðåìÿ ïåðåñòàë ðàáîòàòü.  Çíàþ ÷òî âîïðîñ íà 7 è oooi. Ïðîñòî èíòåðåñíî. 
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Òåìà: Re: ×òî äåëàþò ýòè êðóòèëêè?
Âðåìÿ: 26.03.2009 18:59 |
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Õîóì ñâèò õîóì Ñêîâîðîäà 
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çà÷åì êðóòèë.....ýòî êðóòèëêè äëÿ óìíûõ, à íå äëÿ þçåðîâ  òû ñáèë âñå íàñòðîéêè...
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Èçãèá ãèòàðíîé æîïû, òû îáíèìàåøü íåæíî
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Òåìà: Re: ×òî äåëàþò ýòè êðóòèëêè?
Âðåìÿ: 26.03.2009 19:04 |
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Êàïèòàí î÷åâèäíîñòü óòâåðæäàåò: ×òîá êðóòèòü))) Çàöåíè, íàïðèìåð íà õàðìîíè-öåíòðàë, èëè ãäå åù¸, áóðæóè ëþáÿò îïèñûâàòü çà÷åì òàì êàêîé òðèìïîò íóæåí. À åñëè ó òåáÿ êàêàÿ-òî ïåäàëüêà îò ýòîãî ðàáîòàòü ïåðåñòàëà, òî ìîé ñîâåò íå ëåçòü ñâîèìè øàëîâëèâûìè ðó÷êàìè êóäà íå íàäî))) |
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Òåìà: Re: ×òî äåëàþò ýòè êðóòèëêè?
Âðåìÿ: 26.03.2009 19:04 |
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Ìîñêâà Mesa Heartbreaker; Fender Showman
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Âîò ìíå ñ ïîçèöèè þçåðà âñå è èíòåðåñíî.  ad9, íàïðèìåð, òàêàÿ øòóêà âîîáùå â îòäåëå äëÿ áàòàðåéêè, äàæ îòêðó÷èâàòü íè÷åãî íå íàäî. Àâòîð ñòàòüè ïðî ehx d mistress òîæå ïèñàë, ÷òî êðóòèë, è âðîäå íè÷åãî. Òîëüêî ïîä ñåáÿ ïîäñòðîèë. |
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Òåìà: Re: ×òî äåëàþò ýòè êðóòèëêè?
Âðåìÿ: 26.03.2009 19:06 |
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Ìîñêâà Mesa Heartbreaker; Fender Showman
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íå, íó êëîí çàðàáîòàë êàê òîëüêî âñ¸ íà ìåñòî âåðíóë. | |
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Òåìà: Re: ×òî äåëàþò ýòè êðóòèëêè?
Âðåìÿ: 26.03.2009 19:11 |
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Ìîñêâà Mesa Heartbreaker; Fender Showman
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Äîêòîð, âçûâàþ 
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Òåìà: Re: ×òî äåëàþò ýòè êðóòèëêè?
Âðåìÿ: 26.03.2009 20:47 |
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Ìîñêâà õâîñòú äà êîõãòè 
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Ôëåêñåóñ, êñòàòè, êàê òåáå ýòîò ôëåíæåð?  íà õàðìîíè è â íåòå ïðàâäà íèêòî íå îïèñûâàë ïðî ýòè òðèìïîòû? ÿ â ñâîþ ìèñòðåññ ðàñêðóòèë òîê ïîñëå ïðî÷òåíèÿ îïûòà äðóãèõ ïîëüçîâàòåëåé... è êîëîð îêàçàëñÿ ñàìûì ñòðàøíûì òðèìïîòîì, êîòîðûé ÿ âñòðå÷àë â ñâîåé æèçíè ÷óòü íå óïàë ñî ñòóëà
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Cat + Techno music + Extasy
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Òåìà: Re: ×òî äåëàþò ýòè êðóòèëêè?
Âðåìÿ: 26.03.2009 21:02 |
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ñàðàòîâ banhammer 
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FleXeuS, ñëóøàé âîò òóò íè÷åì íå ñìîãó ïîìî÷ü - íå ðàçáèðàë òàêèõ
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êîò, êàòîðûé ïàòîì óìèð
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Òåìà: Re: ×òî äåëàþò ýòè êðóòèëêè?
Âðåìÿ: 26.03.2009 21:17 |
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ñàðàòîâ banhammer
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çàèíòåðåñîâàëî íî ñõåìû íèãäå íå íàøîë âîò ÷òî óäàëîñü íàéòè would NOT mess with those unless it's useless as-is. At least figure out which each does by the schematic, and don't mess with the bias (yup, bias) unless you have a scope to reset it. I have an Ibanez FL9 (yellow flange cousin to the green tube screamer) that came to me ALL MESSED UP. To the point where it wouldn't even start the flange effect most of the time (thanks, LA ebay seller who said it worked perfectly!). I finally got the service manual and (not having their fancy "synchroscope" and frequency counter) used a scope to get the thing set as close to right as I could. Now it's STAYING as set. On the FL9, you must set the clock, the bias, and the regeneration. But you need the service manual to tell you HOW to set it (where to set the controls, what frequency, etc.). Those trimpots are easy to break, also! |
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êîò, êàòîðûé ïàòîì óìèð
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Òåìà: Re: ×òî äåëàþò ýòè êðóòèëêè?
Âðåìÿ: 26.03.2009 21:26 |
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Ìîñêâà Mesa Heartbreaker; Fender Showman
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Äæè-Äæè, ÷åñòíî ïðèçíàòüñÿ î÷åíü íðàâèòñÿ, à åñëè áûòü ñîâñåì ÷åñòíûì  - òî ìèñòðåññ â åãî ñòîðîíó è îáìåíÿë. Íî î ñêðûòûõ ôóíêöèÿõ â ìèñòðåññå íå çíàë, òàê ÷òî òåïåðü ñðàâíèâàòü òðóäíî.fl íå ôîíèò. Êàê è ìèñò ìîæåò äîáàâëÿòü ?æåëåçíîñòü? çâóêà. "Regen" - âîîáùå ðàäîñòü Íå÷òî ñðåäíåå ìåæäó Small Clone'îâñêèì "depth" è Marshall'îâñêèì rg-1, íî â ðã îíà ðàñêðûòà ïðîöåíòîâ íà 30 íàâåðíîå â îòëè÷èå îò ôë9 Êðàéíå ìÿãêèé íà ÷èñòîì è "âçëåòàåò êàê íàäî" íà ïåðåãðóçå. Ïîêà î÷åíü äîâîëåí. Íó ó Ìèñòðåññà åùå òàêîé êîíêðåòíûé Õàðìîíèêñîâñêèé æåëåçíûé ïðèçâóê - òîæå íå ñàìàÿ ïëîõàÿ ÷åðòà. el Doctor, âñ¸ðàâíî ñïàñèáî
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Òåìà: Re: ×òî äåëàþò ýòè êðóòèëêè?
Âðåìÿ: 26.03.2009 21:47 |
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Ìîñêâà õâîñòú äà êîõãòè
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äà, ìíå îíà ñíà÷àëà íå î÷åíü ïîíðàâèëàñü, íî ÿ çíàë ÷òî âíóòðè ìîæíî ïîääàòü æàðêó, äà è ëþáîâü ê çâóêó Ñàììåðñà âèòàëà ó ìåíÿ â ãîëîâå óæå î÷åíü äàâíî. òàê ÷òî òåïåðü âñå îê! âîò èãðàþñü ñ îïåðàöèîííèêàìè... äàæ íå çíàþ...))) "øóì ïðèáîÿ" íåáîëüøîé åñòü åñëè íå êàñàòüñÿ ñòðóí, íî îí ñòàë î÷åíü ìÿãêèì è äàæå ïðèÿòíûì, îñîáåííî íà íèçêîé ñêîðîñòè íà ñ÷åò æåëåçíîñòè... åñëè íå âûêðó÷èâàòü êîëîð òî âïîëíå çâó÷èò î÷åíü ìÿãêî. ç.û. òùîðä, ÿ îïëàøàë ñ åìêîñòüþ êîíäåíñàòîðîâ. ïîñòàâèë 22nKY, à ñòîÿëî 0,22 ìêÔ. ëîøàààðîî  ïîëó÷àåòñÿ íà öåëûé ïîðÿäîê ìåíüøå. ëàí, çàâòðà ñ óòðà ñüåçæó, ïîìåíÿþ íà 0,22 ìêÔ.
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Òåìà: Re: ×òî äåëàþò ýòè êðóòèëêè?
Âðåìÿ: 27.03.2009 12:27 |
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Êàçàíü
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åñëè åñòü êðóòèëêè, çíà÷èò èõ ìîæíî, à ïîðîþ è íóæíî êðóòèòü! íå áóäóò æå êíîïêè è êðóòèëêè ñàìîóíè÷òîæåíèÿ äåâàéñà äåëàòü!))) Çàïîìíè íàñòîÿùåå ïîëîæåíèå ðó÷åê è ýêñïåðåìèíòèðóé! Ñêîðåå âñåãî ýòî íàñòðîéêè íþàíñîâ ýôôåêòà (ãàðìîíèêè, îòðàæåíèÿ, âðåìÿ, îáú¸ì......) |
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Òåìà: Re: ×òî äåëàþò ýòè êðóòèëêè?
Âðåìÿ: 27.03.2009 13:08 |
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Êàê äåòè ìàëûå))) "Remove the battery cover and bottom cover with the unit upside-down, and you can see (from left to right) VR101, VR102 and VR103. VR101 is on the far left, and VR102 and VR103 are on the right. VR101 (CLOCK) adjusts the frequency of maximum SPEED. VR102 (BIAS) makes an adjustment so that BBD will not gives a distorted signal when a big signal comes in. DON'T touch this pot! VR103 (REGEN) determines the amount of maximum REGEN. These three pots exist on our new FL9 as well, although not with the same location. Hope this helps...." |
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Òåìà: Re: ×òî äåëàþò ýòè êðóòèëêè?
Âðåìÿ: 27.03.2009 16:49 |
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ìåíÿ âûïèñàëè óñìèðèòåëüíîå ðóáàøêî
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ýòî ïîäñòðîå÷íûå ðåçèñòîðû!!!!11adin 
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Äàìû è ãîñïîäà! Åæѣë³ ñ³ѣ åñòü àêêîðäåîíú-áóäó âûíóæäåíú ïð³íѣñò³ ñâî³ èçâ³íѣí³ÿ.
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Òåìà: Re: ×òî äåëàþò ýòè êðóòèëêè?
Âðåìÿ: 27.03.2009 17:51 |
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Íà÷íè ñâîé äåíü óòðîì
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Äîíò òà÷ âèç ïîò!!!))) | |
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Òåìà: Re: ×òî äåëàþò ýòè êðóòèëêè?
Âðåìÿ: 27.03.2009 21:02 |
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Ìîñêâà Mesa Heartbreaker; Fender Showman
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Jester, ñïàñèáà! Ïîêðó÷è àêêóðàòíî ëåâóþ è ïðàâóþ, ñðåäíþþ òðîãàòü íå áóäó 
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Òåìà: Re: ×òî äåëàþò ýòè êðóòèëêè?
Âðåìÿ: 27.03.2009 21:54 |
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Ìîñêâà õâîñòú äà êîõãòè
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à ÿ âîò ïåðåïàÿë òîò ëåâûé êîíäåð ñ 0,022 ìÔ íà 0,22 ìÔ è âñå ïðîñòî îòëè÷íî çàçâó÷àëî, î÷åíü òåïëûé, áîãàòûé è î÷åíü äàæå lush æóòêî äîâîëåí!  òåïåðü è ãðîìêîñòü äàæå íå ïàäàåò ïðè âêëþ÷åíèè ôëåíæåðà 
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