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"Àêóñòè÷åñêàÿ è ôîëê ìóçûêà" - íàçâàíèå ýòîãî ðàçäåëà. êñòàòè ñêàçàòü, âñå çàáûëè, íî ïîä "àêóñòè÷åñêîé" àäìèíèñòðàòîðû ïîíèìàþò è àêàäåìè÷åñêóþ(àêà "êëàññèêà"). êòî çäåñü ñëóøàåò/èãðàåò àêàäåìè÷åñêóþ ìóçûêó? äàâàéòå, ÷òîëè, êîíñîëèäèðîâàòüñÿ, ãîñïîäà! ÷òîá çäåñü õîðîøåå ìåñòî îáðàçîâûâàëîñü! |
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Òåìà: Re: Àêàäåìèñòû.
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Ìîñêâà 
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ß î÷åíü ìíîãî ñëóøàþ Øîïåíà, Äåáþññè, Ñêàðëàòòè, Øóìàíà... | |
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Êëàñèêà...êëàñèêà Î  Çãàäàâ-Ïàãàí³í³.
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Êàáàë, ÷åãî òåáå íå íðàâèòñÿ?)) Ñàí, çàâòðà íà óðîê ïîéä¸øü?)) |
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Òåìà: Re: Àêàäåìèñòû.
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http://www.musicforums.ru/pishite_nam/browse_thread.php?bn=mfor_pishitenam&thread=1160512710&replies=190 Âîò ñþäà âñåì, ãîëîñîâàòü çà ôîðóì î êëàññè÷åñêîé ìóçûêå!
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ìíîãî èõ ñëûøàë êîíñòàíòèíîïëåé - âñ¸ ãoâíî áûëî êàêîåòà íåäîèñòàíáóëîâñêîå © Raskladnoy
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ß ãîâîðþ îïÿòü øòîëå, òîï-òî îäèí â îäèí òàêîé æå óæå ñîçäàâàë. Äóìàåøü ñèòóàöèÿ ðåçêî ïîìåíÿëàñü çà ýòî âðåìÿ?) Àêàäåìè÷åñêàÿ ìóçûêà ïîñóòè åñëè è íå îñíîâíîå, ÷òî ñëóøàþ, òî áëèçêîå ê òîìó, ñîïñíî. |
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Êèåâ The Heritage, Larrivee, Nocaster`51, Charvel DeMartini
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Ðàõìàíèíîâ, Òàðèâåðäèåâ, ×àéêîâñêèé. Ïàöàíû êðóòûå, àâòîðèòåòíûå. Äëÿ ìåíÿ - î÷åíü)) 
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Êëàññèêà è àêàäåìèçì - âïîëíå ñåáå ðàçíûå âåùè.Ïåðâîå (ò.å Ìîöàðòà,Áåòõîâåíà) ïðîñòî íå ëþáëþ,âòîðîå òåðïåòü íå ìîãó...Ëó÷øå ïîñëóøàéòü êàêèõ-íèáóäü õîðîøèõ àóòåíòèñòîâ - ïîéìåòå,÷òî Áàõà äîïóñòèì ìîæíî èãðàòü è ñ äðàéâîì íàñòîÿùèì,è ñ èìïðîâèçàöèåé,è ò.ä..Ïðî áîëåå ðàííþþ ìóçûêó âîîáùå ìîë÷ó... À êëàññèöèçì êàê íàïðàâëåíèå - ÈÌÕÎ ñêó÷íî ñëóøàòü. Ãàðìîíèè ïðåäñêàçóåìûå äî æóòè,3 àêêîðäà ïî ñóòè,ñâîáîäû èñïîëíåíèÿ íèêàêîé,âñå ÷åòêî ïî íîòàì è íè íà âîëîñîê â ñòîðîíó. |
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"Êëàññèêà è àêàäåìèçì - âïîëíå ñåáå ðàçíûå âåùè.Ïåðâîå (ò.å Ìîöàðòà,Áåòõîâåíà)" Ãàéäíà çàáûëè. "ïðîñòî íå ëþáëþ,âòîðîå òåðïåòü íå ìîãó" - òóò 2 âàðèàíòà - ëèáî âû ìàëî ñëûøàëè, ëèáî íå òåì ìåñòîì ñëóøàëè "Ëó÷øå ïîñëóøàéòü êàêèõ-íèáóäü õîðîøèõ àóòåíòèñòîâ - ïîéìåòå,÷òî Áàõà äîïóñòèì ìîæíî èãðàòü è ñ äðàéâîì íàñòîÿùèì,è ñ èìïðîâèçàöèåé,è ò.ä..Ïðî áîëåå ðàííþþ ìóçûêó âîîáùå ìîë÷ó..." - à Ìîöàðòà è Áåòõîâåíà íåëüçÿ ñ äðàéâîì èãðàòü îêàçûâàåòñÿ íåëüçÿ?.. Àõ, âû íàâåðíî äàæå íå âñïîìíèòå èñïîëíåíèÿ... èëè... À ÷òî òàêîå äðàéâ? âîò î÷åíü èíòåðåñíûé âîïðîñ â ñâÿçè ñ âàøèìè âûñêàçûâàíèÿìè)"À êëàññèöèçì êàê íàïðàâëåíèå - ÈÌÕÎ ñêó÷íî ñëóøàòü. Ãàðìîíèè ïðåäñêàçóåìûå äî æóòè,3 àêêîðäà ïî ñóòè,ñâîáîäû èñïîëíåíèÿ íèêàêîé,âñå ÷åòêî ïî íîòàì è íè íà âîëîñîê â ñòîðîíó." - ÿ òîæå òàê äóìàë, êîãäà ìàëåíüêèé áûë ïîòîì ïîâçðîñëåë... 
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ïîéìåòå,÷òî Áàõà äîïóñòèì ìîæíî èãðàòü è ñ äðàéâîì íàñòîÿùèì,è ñ èìïðîâèçàöèåé,è ò.ä.. Îñîáåííî ñ èìïðîâèçàöèåé *ïðî äðàéâ ÿ êàê áû âîîáùå ìîë÷ó*. Æóéòå æûâà÷êó ëó÷øå, óâàæàåìûé - è êàðèèñó íå áóäåò, è ÷óøè ìåíüøå âûâàëèòüñÿ. |
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Êàáàë, êñòàòè, ïðî èìïðîâèçàöèþ - ýòî íå ñîâñåì ïóñòûå ñëîâà. òàì å ó íåãî åñòü òàêèå ìåñòà, ãäå ÂÎÇÌÎÆÍÀ èìïðîâèçàöèÿ.  Ãíåñèíêå åãî òàê è èãðàþò, ññûëàÿñü íà óðòåêñòû, õîòÿ ýòî, êîíå÷íî35 ðàç ñïîðíî. | |
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Åñòü ìåñòà è ÂÎÇÌÎÆÍÀ - ýòî îäíî, à "ñûãðàòü Áàõà íèâîïðîñ ìîæíî ñ èìïðîâèçàöèåé è äðàéâîì" - äðóãîå, ñîâåðøåííî. | |
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Ìîñêâà áàñ-ãèòàðà 
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ãîñïîäà, ïîêà ó âàñ òàêîé óðîâåíü ïðåäñòàâëåíèÿ î êëàññè÷åñêîé\\àêàäåìè÷åñêîé ìóçûêàëüíîé òðàäèöèè è óðîâíÿõ å¸ èñïîëíåíèÿ - îò ðàçäåëà, êîòîðûé âû õîòèòå - òîëêó íîëü. | |
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"âñå ëþäè äåëÿòñÿ íà äâå êàòåãîðèè: îäíà - ýòî òå, ó êîãî ðåâîëüâåð çàðÿæåí, äðóãàÿ - ýòî òå, êòî êîïàåò.....Òû - áóäåøü êîïàòü." (ñ) |
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oldTor, ïîÿñíè èëè òû êîìó ýòî âîîáùå âåùàë?)
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Òåìà: Re: Àêàäåìèñòû.
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Ýòî îí íå íàì, íå áåñïîêîéòåñü... ýòî îí âèäàòü ñ íåáåñàìè ðàçãîâàðèâàåò. Ó ìåíÿ òàêîé âîïðîñ - ñðåäè ïðèñóòñòâóþùèõ åñòü ëþáèòåëè\\öåíèòåëè àâàíãàðäà\\ìèíèìàëèçìà 20-ãî âåêà? Òàêèå èìåíà, êàê Steve Reich, John Adams, Terry Riley, Philip Glass, John Cage, Moondog, Yann Tiersen, Àëåêñåé Àéãè íàø... íà ìåíÿ î÷åíü áîëüøîå âïå÷àòëåíèå ïðîèçâåëî\\ïðîèçâîäèò. | |
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íàñòîÿùèé ìèíèìàëèçì - îí â ïðèðîäå âñòðå÷àåòñÿ äîâîëüíî ÷àñòî è íà ïðîòÿæåíèè ìíîãèõ âåêîâ, íî íå â ÷èñòîì(òóïîì-ïðÿìîì)âèäå: ñêàæåì, ó Ñâèðèäîâà â "Ïîýìå ïàìÿòè Åñåíèíà" íàñòîÿùèé ìèíèìàëèçì â îðêåñòðîâêå! òàêîãî íå íåò íèãäå! äà è ñàìà ìóçûêà î÷åíü ìèíèìàëèñòè÷íà ïðè òîì, ÷òî îíà òàì åñòü(â îòëè÷èå îò Ãëàññà, íàïðèìåð, ó êîòîðîãî àáñîëþòíàÿ ñòàòèêà è ïðîñòî çàöèêëåííîñòü). Ó êëàññèêîâ(íàâðîäå Áåòõîâåíà)ìîæíî íàéòè âïîëíå ìèíèìàëèñòè÷íûå ìîìåíòû, åñëè ïîèñêàòü.) à òî, ÷òî äåëàþò/äåëàëè íàçâàííûå ìèíèìàëèñòû - ýòî íå âñåãäà îïðàâäàíî è ñ ýñòýòè÷åñêîé è ñ ëîãè÷åñêîé òî÷êè çðåíèÿ. ÷åñòíî ñêàæó, ÷òî ïîñëå êîíöåðòà ñ ïðîèçâåäåíèÿìè Ìàðòûíîâà íàðîä(âî ãëàâå ñî ìíîé) ñòðåìèòåëüíî ðåòèðóåòñÿ ïî íàïðàâëåíèþ ê ãàðäåðîáó) |
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Äà, äàëåêî íå âñå ìîæíî õîòÿ áû ó âûøåíàçâàííû÷ àâòîðîâ ñëóøàòü (íà ìîé âêóñ), íî åñòü âåùè òàêèå, ÷òî ïðÿì...  Íó òàê ýòî ó ïðàêòè÷åñêè ëþáîãî êîìïîçèòîðà\\êîëëåêòèâà òàê, äàæå èç êëàññèêîâ, âñåãäà åñòü ÷òî-òî, ÷òî òåáå íå ïîíðàâèòñÿ, íó âîò èç Ðàéõà èëè Àéãè ïðàêòè÷åñêè âñå ñëóøàåòñÿ èç òîãî, ÷òî ÿ ñëûøàë. Ñàìîå èíòåðåñíîå, çà êàçàëîñü áû íàáîðîì êàêîôîíè÷åñêèõ çâóêîâ î÷åíü ÷àñòî ñêðûâàþòñÿ òàêèå ìåëîäèè ñóïåðñêèå, íåîáû÷íûå. Ëè÷íî ìåíÿ îíè ïðèòÿãèâàþò ñèëüíåå êëàññèêîâ ýïîõè ðîìàíòèçìà íàïðèìåð. Êñòàòè ãîâîðÿ ìîæíî ëè ê ýòîìó ñïèñêó îòíåñòè òàêèõ òîâàðèùåé, êàê Äåáþññè, Ñàòè, Øîñòàêîâè÷à, Ðàëüôà Âîãàíà, Ñòðàâèíñêîãî, âðîä íå àâàíãàðä, íî êàê áóäòî áû ãäå-òî ðÿäîì...
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âîîáùå-òî ó íèõ áûëè ïåðèîäû â òâîð÷åñòâå, íàïðèìåð, ó Ñòðàâèíñêîãî - íåîêëàññè÷åñêèé ïåðèîä áûë, áûë ïåðèîä, ãäå îí è äîäåêàôîíèè íå ÷óðàëñÿ) | |
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Leonardo, Òåððè Ðèëè åñòü äâà äèñêà, ïî-ìîåìó ïðîñòî ôèãíÿ. àðïåäæèàòîð è ìóã. Ìóíäîã ñóïåð, åùå Ìàãìó çàáûë - Mekanïk Destruktïw Kommandöh (1973), âåðøèíà àêàäåìè÷åñêîãî àâàíãàðäà | |
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ñ ìèëèöèåé ïðîáëåìû òîëüêî ó âîðüÿ, ó íîðìàëüíûõ ëþäåé ïðîáëåìû ñ ìåíòàìè.(c)
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ñ ìèëèöèåé ïðîáëåìû òîëüêî ó âîðüÿ, ó íîðìàëüíûõ ëþäåé ïðîáëåìû ñ ìåíòàìè.(c)
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ïîñëóøàé. èëè òåáå òóò ïàðòèòóðó ñ ëèáðåòòîé íàäî âûëîæèòü? | |
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ñ ìèëèöèåé ïðîáëåìû òîëüêî ó âîðüÿ, ó íîðìàëüíûõ ëþäåé ïðîáëåìû ñ ìåíòàìè.(c)
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ïëþñàäèí, ëèáðåòà ýòî òàêàÿ áóìàøêà íà êîòîðîé íàïèñàíî òî ÷å ïîþò ïàðòèòóðà ýòî ñêîð÷èê, îïåðåæàÿ òâîé âîïðîñ |
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sisterman, à ÷òî â ïàðòèòóðå íå íàïèñàíî òî ÷å ïîþò(åñëè ýòî âîêàëüíî-èíñòðóìåíòàëüíîå ïðîèçâåäåíèå)? 
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íåò, ñíà÷àëà íàäî íàïèñàòü â òåòðàäêå ÷åðíîâèê. ïîòîì ðàáîòó íàä îøèáêàìè ñäåëàòü. à ïîòîì ìîæíî â ïàðòèòóðó ïèõàòü, åñëè êîìó áåç íîò íå ïîåòñÿ. | |
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Òåìà: Re: Àêàäåìèñòû.
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sisterman, à ïåðåä ýòèì âñåì íàäî íîòíîé ãðàìîòå íàó÷èòüñÿ, ðàç óæ ìû ïîøëè ïî áîëåå ïîäðîáíîìó ïóòè
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Òåìà: Re: Àêàäåìèñòû.
Âðåìÿ: 22.05.2007 11:27 |
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äàâàé äàâàòü óðîêè ïðÿì çäåñü ÷óð ÿ ïðåïîä ïî ãàðìîíèè
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ñ ìèëèöèåé ïðîáëåìû òîëüêî ó âîðüÿ, ó íîðìàëüíûõ ëþäåé ïðîáëåìû ñ ìåíòàìè.(c)
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Òåìà: Re: Àêàäåìèñòû.
Âðåìÿ: 22.05.2007 16:23 |
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sisterman, ïîæàëóéñòà ìíå ìîäóëÿöþ ïîñòåïåííóþ èç D-dur â F-dur âàø òîíàëüíûé ïëàí! 
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Òåìà: Re: Àêàäåìèñòû.
Âðåìÿ: 23.05.2007 23:45 |
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èç êàêèõ äóð? ÿ ñèñüìîëü ëþáëþ! | |
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Òåìà: tyyxe
Âðåìÿ: 25.05.2007 01:09 |
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http://a28hosting.info/new-jersey-food-bank/ <a href="http://a28hosting.info/new-jersey-food-bank/">New jersey food bank</a> http://a28hosting.info/surrey-food-bank/ <a href="http://a28hosting.info/surrey-food-bank/">Surrey food bank</a> http://a28hosting.info/bay-area-food-bank/ <a href="http://a28hosting.info/bay-area-food-bank/">Bay area food bank</a> http://a28hosting.info/colorado-food-banks/ <a href="http://a28hosting.info/colorado-food-banks/">Colorado food banks</a> http://a28hosting.info/regional-food-bank/ <a href="http://a28hosting.info/regional-food-bank/">Regional food bank</a> http://a28hosting.info/food-bank-virginia/ <a href="http://a28hosting.info/food-bank-virginia/">Food bank virginia</a> http://a28hosting.info/ct-food-banks/ <a href="http://a28hosting.info/ct-food-banks/">Ct food banks</a> http://a28hosting.info/windsor-food-bank/ <a href="http://a28hosting.info/windsor-food-bank/">Windsor food bank</a> http://a28hosting.info/arkansas-food-bank/ <a href="http://a28hosting.info/arkansas-food-bank/">Arkansas food bank</a> http://a28hosting.info/food-bank-of-iowa/ <a href="http://a28hosting.info/food-bank-of-iowa/">Food bank of iowa</a> http://a28hosting.info/austin-food-bank/ <a href="http://a28hosting.info/austin-food-bank/">Austin food bank</a> http://a28hosting.info/vancouver-food-bank/ <a href="http://a28hosting.info/vancouver-food-bank/">Vancouver food bank</a> http://a28hosting.info/golden-harvest-food-bank/ <a href="http://a28hosting.info/golden-harvest-food-bank/">Golden harvest food bank</a> http://a28hosting.info/food-bank-phoenix/ <a href="http://a28hosting.info/food-bank-phoenix/">Food bank phoenix</a> http://a28hosting.info/angel-food-bank/ <a href="http://a28hosting.info/angel-food-bank/">Angel food bank</a> http://a28hosting.info/food-bank-location/ <a href="http://a28hosting.info/food-bank-location/">Food bank location</a> http://a28hosting.info/alaska-food-banks/ <a href="http://a28hosting.info/alaska-food-banks/">Alaska food banks</a> http://a28hosting.info/boston-food-bank/ <a href="http://a28hosting.info/boston-food-bank/">Boston food bank</a> http://a28hosting.info/florida-food-banks/ <a href="http://a28hosting.info/florida-food-banks/">Florida food banks</a> http://a28hosting.info/connecticut-food-bank/ <a href="http://a28hosting.info/connecticut-food-bank/">Connecticut food bank</a> | |
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Òåìà: Re: Àêàäåìèñòû.
Âðåìÿ: 26.05.2007 03:17 |
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ýòî ëèáðåòòî
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