| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Âèáðàòî ñ ôóíêöèåé ðàíäîìà, â ñòèëå Sample & Hold
Âðåìÿ: 13.11.2017 18:33 |
||||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
|
Ìîñêîâñêèå çàäâîðêè. Ïàëî÷êè ñàìîïàëî÷êè  
|
 îáùåì èùó ïåäàëü èìåííî âèáðàòî , à ÍÅ ÒÐÅÌÎËÎ, ò.å ìîäóëèðóþùåå âûñîòó çâóêà (pitch), à íå åãî ãðîìêîñòü (ADSR) Íî ïðè ýòîì ñ ôóêöèåé ðàíäîìíîé ñìåíû âûñîòû, â ñòèëå sample&hold - òàê ñêàçàòü step sequenced ×åãî-òî íèêàê íå ìîãó íàéòè íè÷åãî ïîäîáíîãî, ìîæåò êîìó ïîïàäàëàñü èìåííî ïåäàëü ñ òàêîé ôóíêöèåé? Çàðàíåå áëàãîäàðåí çà ëþáóþ èíôîðìàöèþ  ïîïàäàþòñÿ òîëüêî ñåêâåíòèðîâàííûå ïî ôèëüòðó (ñut-off/resonance, aka WAH ýôôåêò), à ïî âûñîòå íå ìîãó íàéòè |
||||||||||||
|
"òû òàê ãîâîðèøü, áóäòî óáèéñòâî æèâîãî ñóùåñòâà - ýòî ÷òî-òî ïëîõîå" © Ëåáåäèíûé õðóñò
"It never ceases to amaze me, people in an effects forum complaining about somebody using too many effects" ©
|
|||||||||||||
4
1
2| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Âèáðàòî ñ ôóíêöèåé ðàíäîìà, â ñòèëå Sample & Hold
Âðåìÿ: 13.11.2017 18:35 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Ìîñêîâñêèå çàäâîðêè. Ïàëî÷êè ñàìîïàëî÷êè
|
ïîêà îñòàíîâèëñÿ òîëüêî íà âàðèàíòå ãîðîäèòü îãîðîä èç ñòàíäàðòíîé ïåäàëè âèáðàòî è Electro-Harmonix 8 Step 
|
|
|
"òû òàê ãîâîðèøü, áóäòî óáèéñòâî æèâîãî ñóùåñòâà - ýòî ÷òî-òî ïëîõîå" © Ëåáåäèíûé õðóñò
"It never ceases to amaze me, people in an effects forum complaining about somebody using too many effects" © |
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Âèáðàòî ñ ôóíêöèåé ðàíäîìà, â ñòèëå Sample & Hold
Âðåìÿ: 13.11.2017 19:07 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
 ùà íàâåðíîå âíåñó ïîëíóþ àõèíåþ â ýòîò òðýä  äåëàëè âðîäå ðàíåå , à ùà - . îäèí ï¸ñ - êîíñêèé öåííèê ïî íîíåøíèì âðåìåíàì. áåð¸ì ïàðó-òðîéêó á/ó íà àâèòî è óñòðàèâàåì ïðàçäíèê-ïðàçäíèê ñ unlatch mode è ðàçíûìè íàñòðîéêàìè.. â ïðèíöèïå è äâóõ UV300 ìîæåò áûòü áîëåå ÷åì íà ýòó çàáàâó.. òàêè íàâåðíîå ìÿ íèõðþíà íåïîíåë è íàïåéñàë ÷òî-òî íå òî, äà? 
|
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Âèáðàòî ñ ôóíêöèåé ðàíäîìà, â ñòèëå Sample & Hold
Âðåìÿ: 13.11.2017 19:33 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Ìîñêîâñêèå çàäâîðêè. Ïàëî÷êè ñàìîïàëî÷êè
|
òàê â òîì òî è äåëî ÷òî unlatch mode ðåãóëèðóåò ñêîðîñòü, à íå âûñîòó ïîäîáíàÿ ôóíêöèÿ ïî ìîäóëÿöèè îòêðûâàíèÿ ôèëüòðà åñòü â ïåäàëè WooDooLab WAHzoo, ãäå îíà òóïî íàçâàíà step sequence, à ïåäàëè ìîäóëèðóþùèå sample&hold'îì âûñîòó òîíà (pitch) ÿ òàê íå íàøåë 
|
|
|
"òû òàê ãîâîðèøü, áóäòî óáèéñòâî æèâîãî ñóùåñòâà - ýòî ÷òî-òî ïëîõîå" © Ëåáåäèíûé õðóñò
"It never ceases to amaze me, people in an effects forum complaining about somebody using too many effects" © |
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Âèáðàòî ñ ôóíêöèåé ðàíäîìà, â ñòèëå Sample & Hold
Âðåìÿ: 13.11.2017 19:55 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Ìîñêîâñêèå çàäâîðêè. Ïàëî÷êè ñàìîïàëî÷êè
|
òîåñòü LFO ñ ðàíäîìíîé âîëíîé (æåëàòåëüíî sine à íå square) ìîäóëèðóþùåå ïèò÷ âíåøíåãî ñèãíàëà | |
|
"òû òàê ãîâîðèøü, áóäòî óáèéñòâî æèâîãî ñóùåñòâà - ýòî ÷òî-òî ïëîõîå" © Ëåáåäèíûé õðóñò
"It never ceases to amaze me, people in an effects forum complaining about somebody using too many effects" © |
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Âèáðàòî ñ ôóíêöèåé ðàíäîìà, â ñòèëå Sample & Hold
Âðåìÿ: 13.11.2017 20:34 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
|
>òàê â òîì òî è äåëî ÷òî unlatch mode ðåãóëèðóåò ñêîðîñòü, à íå âûñîòó latch/unlatch/bypass - ýò ðåæèìû ðàáîòû ïåäàëè, ò.å.: MODE knob Switches the function of the pedal. UNLATCH The vibrato effect is on only while you hold down the pedal. BYPASS The vibrato effect turns on/off each time you press the pedal. Turning the vibrato effect off bypasses the BBD so that the audio signal does not pass through it. LATCH The vibrato effect turns on/off each time you press the pedal. * When the vibrato effect is turned off in UNLATCH or LATCH mode, the audio signal passes through the BBD so that the effect can begin smoothly. áûëà èäåÿ íà÷àòü ñ UNLATCH ó äâóõ UV300, íàñòðîåííûõ ïî-ðàçíîìó (íàïðèìåð ñ ðàçíûìè DEPTH è RISE TIME ). íàæèìàÿ òàì è òóò ìîæíî ïîëó÷èòü à-ëÿ ðýíäîì.. ïìñì.. ó VB-2W åù¸ êàêîé-òî ñâèò÷ äîïîëíèòåëüíî âïèëèëè íà ìîäóëÿöèþ - íå ñìîòðåë åù¸ íà íåãî.âàðèàíò - ïîïðîáîâàòü Boss GT-8/10/100 èëè Zoom MS-50G èëè ÷¸-íèòü åù¸, ÷òî ìàã¸ò ïðîãðàììèðóåìóþ àìïëèòóäíóþ ìîäóëÿöèþ (òèïà whammy íà ïîâûøåíèå è îáðàòíî ê íîòå). íàäî ãëÿíóòü, âðîäå ìîãóò îáà.. íå ïîëüçîâàë ýòîò ýôôåêò íè ðàçó.. åù¸ ïðîùå - íàñòðîé íàêîíåö-òî ðû  äëÿ " âíåøíåãî ñèãíàëà " - ñàìîå òî!  óñëûøàë " âíåøíèé ñèãíàë " - è ñðàçó ïðèíàë¸ã îáåèìè ðóêàìè
|
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Âèáðàòî ñ ôóíêöèåé ðàíäîìà, â ñòèëå Sample & Hold
Âðåìÿ: 13.11.2017 20:43 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Ìîñêîâñêèå çàäâîðêè. Ïàëî÷êè ñàìîïàëî÷êè
|
äà áëèí! ýòî çàäîëáàåøüñÿ ñèðòàêè òàíöåâàòü ïî äâóì ïåäàëÿì  ïëþñ ýòî êàêàÿ æå äîëæíà áûòü ñêîðîñòü ïîäòàíöîâêè? ïðè òîì ÷òî ýòî âñåãî äâà âàðèàíòà âûñîòû çâóêà, à òîò æå EHX äàñò âîñåìü ñòóïåíåé ñåêâåíöèè ñ ðàçíîé âûñîòîé íà êàæäûé øàã - ïëþñ ôóíêöèÿ ïîðòàìåíòî (glide) ïî ìîåìó òû íå ñîâñåì ìåíÿ ïîíÿë, ùàñ ïîèùó êàê ýòî ðåàëèçîâàíî â àíàëîãîâûõ ñèíòàõ |
|
|
"òû òàê ãîâîðèøü, áóäòî óáèéñòâî æèâîãî ñóùåñòâà - ýòî ÷òî-òî ïëîõîå" © Ëåáåäèíûé õðóñò
"It never ceases to amaze me, people in an effects forum complaining about somebody using too many effects" © |
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Âèáðàòî ñ ôóíêöèåé ðàíäîìà, â ñòèëå Sample & Hold
Âðåìÿ: 13.11.2017 20:45 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Ìîñêîâñêèå çàäâîðêè. Ïàëî÷êè ñàìîïàëî÷êè
|
òèïà òàê - ñìîòðåòü ñ 5:30 |
|
|
"òû òàê ãîâîðèøü, áóäòî óáèéñòâî æèâîãî ñóùåñòâà - ýòî ÷òî-òî ïëîõîå" © Ëåáåäèíûé õðóñò
"It never ceases to amaze me, people in an effects forum complaining about somebody using too many effects" © |
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Âèáðàòî ñ ôóíêöèåé ðàíäîìà, â ñòèëå Sample & Hold
Âðåìÿ: 13.11.2017 21:51 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
|
>òèïà òàê - ñìîòðåòü ñ 5:30 >ôóíêöèÿ ïîðòàìåíòî (glide) íà Boss-àõ (GT) âûâîäèøü pitch (êîíòðîëü âûñîòû íîòû) íà Expression pedal (Pitch Shifter) èëè ïðîãðàììèðóåøü âðó÷íóþ. ìîæíî çàâÿçàòü íà "âíóòðåííþþ" ïåäàëü, òèïà ðåæèì "àâòî". åñòü SYN (Guitar Synth), åñòü WSY (Wave Synth): Wave Saw, Square Selects a wave type which the synth sound is based. Saw Creates a synth sound with a saw waveform (). Square Creates a synth sound with the square waveform (). åñòü User Scales äëÿ Harmonist, åñòü AR (Auto Riff) ñ 10-þ ñëîòàìè ïîä ñâîè "ôðàçû" (ýò âñ¸ à-ëÿ "ñàìîèãðàéêà" è äà, ýòîò âàø "EHX 8 Step" ñîñ¸ò çà óãëîì ãäå-òî äàëåêî): This allows you to automatically produce a phrase simply by picking a single note. This can be used to easily play extremely rapid phrases. *Because of the need to analyze the pitch, chords (two or more sounds played simultaneously) cannot be played. *Reception of large amounts of MIDI data while Auto Riff is playing may result in disturbances in the sound. óñëûøàë "áóëüêàþùèå" ñåêâåíöèè, ÷òî òàê ëþáèëè çàïèõèâàòü â ïðåñåòû åù¸ ME(-6/8/10) ìóëüòèýôôåêòîâ ("áóëü-áóëü" äåëàëè phaser-îì/flanger-îì ñ ïàðàìåòðîì "step rate"). ïëþñ SL (Slicer) è ïðî÷èé âàãîí âåùåé, âûäàâàåìûõ èç çàñóíóòîãî âíóòðü ñèíòåçàòîðà.. â ýòîì âèäåî åäèíñòâåííîå, ÷åãî íå óñëûøàë - ýò "âèáðàòî"©™. ò.å. íåáîëüøîãî èçìåíåíèÿ âûñîòû íîòû â ÷èñòîì âèäå. ïîõîæå èëè òåáå òàêè íóæåí ãèòàðíûé ñèíò, èëè ìîÿ òâîÿ íå àëë¸ íè#óÿ.. |
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Âèáðàòî ñ ôóíêöèåé ðàíäîìà, â ñòèëå Sample & Hold
Âðåìÿ: 13.11.2017 23:31 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Ìîñêîâñêèå çàäâîðêè. Ïàëî÷êè ñàìîïàëî÷êè
|
òàê ó ìåíÿ áë...äü ôèãîâà òó÷à àíàëîãîâûõ ñèíòîâ êîòîðûå ýòî ìî÷àò ïðèìåíèòåëüíî (targeting) ê ñâîåìó îñöèëëÿòîðó à äëÿ âíåøíåãî ñèãíàëà - îáëîì, ÷åì âïîëçàòü â ïÿòèòîííûé ãèòàðíûé ïðîö, ìíå íåñîìíåííî ïðîùå óêàçàííàÿ âûøå ñâÿçêà êîðî÷å, ïî õîäó, ÿ íåìíîãî íå ïî àäðåñó îáðàòèëñÿ, è ÿ èçâèíÿþñü... èçëèøíå ãðóæó âçàèìîäåéñòâèåì ìåæäó ìîäóëÿìè ñèíòåçà íàðîä ïðèâûêøèé òîëüêî ê îïðåäåëåíèÿì "ôàçåð" "ôëýíäæåð" ïðîñòî íå âòûêàþ ÷òî òàêîãî ñëîæíîãî â òîì ÷òîáû ðåàëèçîâàòü íàñòðàèâàåìûé sample&hold â ôîðìàòå ïåäàëè ïðèìåíèìî ê âíåøíåìó èñòî÷íèêó çâóêà >è äà, ýòîò âàø "EHX 8 Step" ñîñ¸ò çà óãëîì ãäå-òî äàëåêî êàê ãðóáî... èçâèíè, äðóæèùå, íî ïî ìîåìó òû ñëàáî âòûêàåøü â ýòî äåâàéñ ïðîñòî. Îí ìîæåò ðóëèòü ñåðüåçíûìè ñåêâåíöèÿìè, îñîáåííî ñ ïîäêëþ÷åíèåì EHX 8-STEP Program Pedal ïî÷èùå ÷åì Korg sq-1, ïëþñ ïîëíàÿ èíòåãðàöèÿ ïî midi. Òû åãî ïî õîäó ðàññìàòðèâàåøü êàê ãèòàðíóþ ïåäàëü, ÷òî ãëóïî â êîðíå èáî ýòî ÑÅÊÂÅÍÑÎÐ
|
|
|
"òû òàê ãîâîðèøü, áóäòî óáèéñòâî æèâîãî ñóùåñòâà - ýòî ÷òî-òî ïëîõîå" © Ëåáåäèíûé õðóñò
"It never ceases to amaze me, people in an effects forum complaining about somebody using too many effects" © |
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Âèáðàòî ñ ôóíêöèåé ðàíäîìà, â ñòèëå Sample & Hold
Âðåìÿ: 13.11.2017 23:51 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
|
>êàê ãðóáî... èçâèíè, äðóæèùå, íî ïî ìîåìó òû ñëàáî âòûêàåøü â ýòî äåâàéñ ïðîñòî. Îí ìîæåò ðóëèòü ñåðüåçíûìè ñåêâåíöèÿìè, îñîáåííî ñ ïîäêëþ÷åíèåì EHX 8-STEP Program Pedal ïî÷èùå ÷åì Korg sq-1, ïëþñ ïîëíàÿ èíòåãðàöèÿ ïî midi. Òû åãî ïî õîäó ðàññìàòðèâàåøü êàê ãèòàðíóþ ïåäàëü, ÷òî ãëóïî â êîðíå èáî ýòî ÑÅÊÂÅÍÑÎÐ íå ïîëüçîâàë,  åñëè òû íàø¸ë åìó ïðèìåíåíèå -  ÄðÿìñÚ! òóò â ðîëè midi-êîíòðîëëåðà RP1, à çà ñåêâåíñîð ñîáñíî ëèáî êëàâèøíûå, ëèáî Yamaha SY (êîãäà âñ¸ ïëîõî è íàäî ãðåñòè â îäíî ðûëî..) >÷òîáû ðåàëèçîâàòü íàñòðàèâàåìûé sample&hold â ôîðìàòå ïåäàëè feedbacker, íå? íî òû æ òðåáóåøü åù¸ step rate + pitch control + modulation è åù¸ ññûëàåøüñÿ íà âèáðàòî.. òàùåìòà "ÿñàìäóðàê"©™, çâèíÿé, åñëè ÷åãî íå òî èëè íå òàê.. 
|
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Âèáðàòî ñ ôóíêöèåé ðàíäîìà, â ñòèëå Sample & Hold
Âðåìÿ: 14.11.2017 00:35 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Âîñòî÷íîå Èçìàéëîâî ñåìïëåð, ñìû÷îê è êàíèôîëü 
|
>èçëèøíå ãðóæó âçàèìîäåéñòâèåì ìåæäó ìîäóëÿìè ñèíòåçà íàðîä ïðèâûêøèé òîëüêî ê îïðåäåëåíèÿì "ôàçåð" "ôëýíäæåð" äà òû íå òîðîïèñü! ïðèñÿäü, ÷àéêó ïîïåé  ìíå èíòåðåñíî ñòàëî âäðóã. ÷òî èç ýòîãî ìîæíî ïîëó÷èòü. åñëè óæå åñòü ïåäàëü íà spin fv-1 ìîãó ïîïðîáîâàòü òåáå íàïèñàòü íóæíóþ ïðîøèâêó. áëîê s&h ó ìåíÿ åñòü... |
|
|
Ìåíÿ ïóòåí îáûäëèë, ÿ ïîýòîìó â ïîäúåçäå ññó (Âåïðü)
lick this post! |
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Âèáðàòî ñ ôóíêöèåé ðàíäîìà, â ñòèëå Sample & Hold
Âðåìÿ: 14.11.2017 00:52 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Âîñòî÷íîå Èçìàéëîâî ñåìïëåð, ñìû÷îê è êàíèôîëü
|
íà ñ÷åò ïèò÷à (êîãäà íå âèáðàòî, à èìåííî øèôò) ìîæíî âçÿòü îäíó èç âîëøåáíûõ êîðîáî÷åê EQD òèïà rainbow machine è ïóñòèòü âî âõîä ýêñïðåññèè s&h. ñ ïîñëåäíèì ïðèäåòñÿ ïîøàìàíèòü â ïëàíå êîíâåðòàöèè CV ñ àðïåäæèàòîðà... íî ïî ìíå òàê ýòî íàäóìàíî è íå ðàíäîìíî. áîëüøå ðàíäîìà áîãó íîéçà! 
|
|
|
Ìåíÿ ïóòåí îáûäëèë, ÿ ïîýòîìó â ïîäúåçäå ññó (Âåïðü)
lick this post! |
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Âèáðàòî ñ ôóíêöèåé ðàíäîìà, â ñòèëå Sample & Hold
Âðåìÿ: 14.11.2017 11:41 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Âîñòî÷íîå Èçìàéëîâî ñåìïëåð, ñìû÷îê è êàíèôîëü
|
>ïåäàëè ìîäóëèðóþùèå sample&hold'îì âûñîòó òîíà (pitch) ÿ òàê íå íàøåë ó eqd arpanoid åñòü äâà ðàíäîìíûõ ðåæèìà: |
|
|
Ìåíÿ ïóòåí îáûäëèë, ÿ ïîýòîìó â ïîäúåçäå ññó (Âåïðü)
lick this post! |
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Âèáðàòî ñ ôóíêöèåé ðàíäîìà, â ñòèëå Sample & Hold
Âðåìÿ: 14.11.2017 16:08 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
guitar
|
>èçëèøíå ãðóæó âçàèìîäåéñòâèåì ìåæäó ìîäóëÿìè ñèíòåçà íàðîä ïðèâûêøèé òîëüêî ê îïðåäåëåíèÿì "ôàçåð" "ôëýíäæåð" Çâó÷èò âûñîêîìåðíî, íî ïîôëóæó íåìíîãî íà ýòó òåìó. ß âîò ïîñëåäíèé ðàç ÷òî-òî ÷èòàë íà ÌÔ íåñêîëüêî ëåò íàçàä, à òóò âåðíóëñÿ ÷òîáû âåùåé ïðîäàòü/êóïèòü, íó è êîãäà òåìû îáíîâëÿþ, çàîäíî çàõîæó â ãèòàðíûé ðàçäåë... Âèæó òàêèå òîïèêè Òàê à ÷òî âû, òîâàðèùè, õîòèòå îò ëþäåé, êîòîðûå ñîçäàþò è ïèøóò â òàêèå òåìû?  À ïî òåìå — áóäåòå ñìåÿòüñÿ, íî ìíå âñïîìèíàåòñÿ, ÷òî òàêàÿ ôóíêöèÿ áûëà â Zoom 606, åñëè ÿ ïðàâèëüíî ïîíÿë. Âîëíà òàì áûëà êâàäðòíàÿ áåç ãëàéäà åñòåñòâåííî, à â îñòàëüíîì âñå êàê âû îïèñûâàåòå. Ïîëó÷àëñÿ àäñêèé öèôðîâîé øóì 
|
|
|
|
||
| Àâòîð |
Òåìà: Re: Âèáðàòî ñ ôóíêöèåé ðàíäîìà, â ñòèëå Sample & Hold
Âðåìÿ: 14.11.2017 19:48 |
|
|---|---|---|
|
Ìîñêîâñêèå çàäâîðêè. Ïàëî÷êè ñàìîïàëî÷êè
|
>>ïåäàëè ìîäóëèðóþùèå sample&hold'îì âûñîòó òîíà (pitch) ÿ òàê íå íàøåë >ó eqd arpanoid åñòü äâà ðàíäîìíûõ ðåæèìà: >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-N_Ar3xfak ÂÎÒ!!! Ñïàñèáî! ÏîëÏèíê , Arpanoid ýòî î÷åíü ïîõîæå íà òî ÷òî ÿ èùó! Äèêèé ñåíêñ >À ïî òåìå — áóäåòå ñìåÿòüñÿ, íî ìíå âñïîìèíàåòñÿ, ÷òî òàêàÿ ôóíêöèÿ áûëà â Zoom 606, åñëè ÿ ïðàâèëüíî ïîíÿë. Âîëíà òàì áûëà êâàäðòíàÿ áåç ãëàéäà åñòåñòâåííî, à â îñòàëüíîì âñå êàê âû îïèñûâàåòå. Ïîëó÷àëñÿ àäñêèé öèôðîâîé øóì Tolik89 , ó ìåíÿ îí êñòàòè åñòü ãäå-òî  ÿ ïîíÿë î ÷åì òû, ÿ þçàë ýòè ïèò÷-ôèøêè åãî äëÿ íîéçà íà áýêãðàóíäå
|
|
|
"òû òàê ãîâîðèøü, áóäòî óáèéñòâî æèâîãî ñóùåñòâà - ýòî ÷òî-òî ïëîõîå" © Ëåáåäèíûé õðóñò
"It never ceases to amaze me, people in an effects forum complaining about somebody using too many effects" © |
||